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RIAA File-Sharing Lawsuits Top 10,000 People Sued 490

An anonymous reader writes "While Firefox broke the 50,000,000 barrier today, the RIAA broke a more dubious barrier this week: It has now sued over 10,000 file sharers for copyright infringement, making it a good time to ask if the RIAA will ever throw in the towel. Taking an academic look at what's best for the industry, this economics article shows the financial upside to P2P file sharing. And on the flip side, this legal article argues that file swappers have a constitutional right to pay much smaller penalties than the millions of dollars they can be liable for under copyright law, making the RIAA's lawsuits much less profitable."
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RIAA File-Sharing Lawsuits Top 10,000 People Sued

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  • Networks? (Score:2, Funny)

    by killawatt5k ( 846409 ) on Saturday April 30, 2005 @07:54PM (#12394815) Homepage
    I am under the impression emule is safe. Anyone heard otherwise? Any other p2p networks I should know about?
  • by blueadept1 ( 844312 ) on Saturday April 30, 2005 @08:00PM (#12394858)
    1) Start a band (Alternatively: illegally download some techno making software)
    2) Release some songs on p2p networks
    3) Wait for it...
    4) Wait for it...
    5) Sue 10,037 people for a profit. ("...the RIAA's probably collected over $30 million from individual file sharers.")

    Absolutely perfect. I see no flaws.
  • by 01000011011101000111 ( 868998 ) on Saturday April 30, 2005 @08:06PM (#12394897)
    I had a badge once. It read "Don't steal, the government doesn't like the competition".
  • by Lumpmoose ( 697966 ) on Saturday April 30, 2005 @08:08PM (#12394909) Homepage
    ...making it a good time to ask if the RIAA will ever throw in the towel.

    Shoot! It's hard enough to fight a behemoth conglomerate like the RIAA without it having the most useful thing in the universe on hand.
  • by compm375 ( 847701 ) on Saturday April 30, 2005 @08:31PM (#12395039)
    Good idea with the AC, but I don't believe you. If you really worked for a large PC company, you would talk to your customers in capital letters.
  • by NotoriousQ ( 457789 ) on Saturday April 30, 2005 @08:32PM (#12395046) Homepage
    Look on the bright side. Firefox is 5000 times more successful than RIAA.
  • by Primotech ( 731340 ) on Saturday April 30, 2005 @09:00PM (#12395214) Homepage
    Anyone up for dragging Cary Sherman into a bathroom and putting duct tape over his mouth? "Hi there...you're going to call off your rigourous litigation otherwise...these fellows are going to take your balls off..." Do not fuck with us.
  • Re:OK (Score:4, Funny)

    by Hatta ( 162192 ) on Saturday April 30, 2005 @09:21PM (#12395340) Journal
    I just don't understand how people justify... violating a copyright, stealing, ect....what ever you like to call it, because the company charges too much.

    It's easy. Since we've already eliminated buying the disc, there are two possibilities:

    1. Download the disc
      • RIAA does not profit
      • You get music and are happy
    2. Do not download
      • RIAA does not profit
      • Remain bored and unhappy


    Now the basis of any sane moral calculus is this: Do the most good for the most people. Since the RIAA doesn't profit in either case, you can disregard them. Since downloading the disc is going to make you happy and nobody sad you are morally justified in downloading music. QED
  • Exactly! (Score:3, Funny)

    by Xebikr ( 591462 ) on Saturday April 30, 2005 @09:48PM (#12395496)
    How about stop uploading copyright music illegally online for a solution? That would stop the lawsuits

    How right you are! I have been advocating borrowing mp3 collections from friends borrowing cd's from the library and ripping them yourself. Much more reliable and the risk of a lawsuit is almost nil.
  • by rlamoni ( 443974 ) on Saturday April 30, 2005 @09:50PM (#12395511) Homepage
    10000 suits * $3000.00 dollars settled/suit = 30 million dollars paid to the RIAA over 20 months or 1.5million/month.

    1. Get the millions of people pirating music to each pay $5 a month for RIAA Insurance.
    2. Use that pot of money to pay the $3000.00 out-of-court settlement for each of your members that gets caught.
    3. Get rich.
    4. Sell your company to the RIAA to eliminate the middle man.
    5. Your members pay $5 a month to the RIAA directly and they make a killing. ;) ;) ;)
  • And so you could use the slashdotting as a defense?

    "Your honor, there was no way I could share anything; at that adress was only a smoking ruin of what was an email server."

  • by cpt kangarooski ( 3773 ) on Sunday May 01, 2005 @02:46AM (#12396732) Homepage
    And the RIAA is using civil law to punish people (and profit!) for what has traditionally been the sort of thing that has been a criminal case. [Though I'm not sure that sharing some mp3s or movies is even a criminal matter at all, just a civil one (I'd assume that you know, however). And if it is, it's not something the police are likely to care about it, not on a small scale anyways.]

    Actually, copyright infringement has been civil far longer than criminal. In fact, I don't see why it should be criminalized at all. It's easy for copyright holders to sue themselves, receive damages which help cure whatever harm they've suffered, and stop infringers, in a purely civil system.

    Also, it's a federal crime, a felony, so you end up seeing federal law enforcement, often, but not always, the FBI. Criminal copyright suits must be brought by the US Dept. of Justice.

    And sharing them can easily be a criminal matter, especially with the new law passed just recently that expands criminal liability.

    It seems to be the new legal `thing' -- when criminal charges fail, go with civil charges. OJ was found innocent of murder (I certainly agree that he seemed guilty, but `beyond a reasonable doubt' ? Probably not ...) but he lost the civil suit, and made the family of his dead wife lots of money.

    Not really. Civil plaintiffs aren't really helped at all by criminal prosecution. Hence the separate courses of action. In fact, you usually want to have the civil suit first so that the defendant has money to pay damages -- otherwise he'll spend it all on his criminal defense, or won't care since he's already in jail, and you can't make his life significantly worse.

    It doesn't prove it. It makes me perhaps 70% sure you're a lawyer.

    Well, that's good enough in most civil suits! ;)

    I imagine there's some paperwork that goes along with passing the bar

    When I was sworn in, I got a wall certificate. When I paid my dues, I got a little card that I keep in my wallet, and it has my ID number on it. Gotta have that in order to submit paperwork to court.

    The MA wall certificate isn't very fancy looking though, given how much I paid for taking the bar and in dues. Thus I will plan to become a member of the US Supreme Court bar, which has a much more impressive looking piece of paper.
  • by PsiPsiStar ( 95676 ) on Sunday May 01, 2005 @03:40AM (#12396860)
    as the rules governing the profession are greatly concerned with misleading actual or potential clients and the public.

    I love the ambiguity in this statement.
  • my mp3 file topped 10,000

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