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ScentCone writes "Of course it was bound to happen, so now it's mostly a matter of discussing why Lucas does or does not deserve to make the proceeds, or whether people would or would not have gone to see it now that the usual path has been carved around the opening weekend box office." I've yet to find a blockbuster movie that isn't readily available on the net after it opens, but somehow this is still news. It's still usually worth shelling out the cash to see a version that isn't fuzzy with garbled sound, though.
Re:Go see it in theaters (Score:5, Informative)
Re:get off usernet you fuckin lucite (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Go see it in theaters (Score:3, Informative)
Of course, the entire film itself was made on a computer. (OK, two computers)
Re:Lucas might be peeved... (Score:5, Informative)
I will. It's at http://www.piratebay.org./ [www.piratebay.org]
Re:Quality! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Cam-rips are usually unwatchable (Score:5, Informative)
"but somehow this is still news" ???? (Score:3, Informative)
Well, for the love of god, stop treating it like news.
Post something else. Shess.
Re:Go see it in theaters (Score:5, Informative)
You can find it from various newsgroups listed here http://www.newzbin.com/search/query/p/?q=episode&
Enjoy.
Re:Get real (Score:3, Informative)
I just got back from a bar where I was chatting to a girl (ie not a computer geek), and she brought up the topic of bittorrent. So the fact that a generic young (20ish) person mentioned it a bar means it's only a matter of time before the general populace cottons on to bittorents. IMHO.
Re:Go see it in theaters (Score:5, Informative)
The only problem is the counter at the top that runs through the whole film.
I haven't watched it, just a few samples here and there, as I do plan on going to see it saturday with my g/f and if I watch it before then, I dont "get any" for a long time.
If Lucas has anything to complain about, he needs to look into his chain of distribution as this could only have come from inside somewhere.
Re:Both sides need to get a grip. (Score:5, Informative)
Just FYI: The movie theatre keeps 5% to 10% (yes, percent, not a flat fee) of each ticket sold for first run movies; the rest is the ticket price goes straight to the studio producing the movie. Furthermore, the ticket prices and percentages are negotiated (dictated?) by the distributors, not the theatre. So when it costs $10 for a ticket, it's because the owners/managers of the theatre negotiated DOWN to that from what the distributors initially demanded. The management wants LOW ticket prices to convince you to come in and still ahve money left over to buy concessions; it's the distributing studios who want to pillage you for the high ticket price. At 5%, the profit on a $10 ticket is 50 cents and on a $12 ticket it's only 60 cents. Who cares about that kind of money? The theatre (a big building with a lot of expensive sound and projection equipment) doesn't have any other way to turn a buck other than to hit you up for some inflated concessions.
Ratings (Score:2, Informative)
There is a version out with a large timer across the top, and there is a rerelease with it blurred out. Anything under 8/10 is usually pretty 'meh'. However, I have no doubt a dvd screener or some other form of release will be out sooner or later.
It's better than a cam by all accounts, but only the truely broke or people who can't be assed will dl this. I certainly don't imagine this crappy quality release will knock much off the initial ticket sales - by the time a decent release is out, the '2 weeks sales' or whatever they look at these days to determine initial success will have passed.
Not A Cam Rip (Score:5, Informative)
1) The quality will be better than a cam.
2) Workprints are usually only available to those within the industry which means someone close to the studio leaked this out.
Workprints are usually pretty hard to get, hence why you don't hear about them in the leaked movie news very often.
All said, though, go see it in the theatre. I went to the 12:01 showing last night and it was awesome. Truly awesome.
Re:Go see it in theaters (Score:5, Informative)
From what I'm told, there is a workprint edition floating around the net. It may or not be before special effects have been added, I'm unsure. But such an edition isn't going to be the crappy poor sound some guy with a cam corder edition. Judging from the file sizes I see floating about we are looking at DVD ep mode, which well franky isn't all that great. But on par with VCDs that are still popular.
Re:Lucas might be peeved... (Score:2, Informative)
PARENT HAS SPOILERS (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Cam-rips are usually unwatchable (Score:2, Informative)
To put it mildly, if you pirate this film you are a dork. This is a spectacular piece of film and it deserves to be seen at a big cinema with an audience. Dont be a tight ass, pay the money and go see this film. You have to be pretty sad to begrudge $10 or whatever for seeing a film this spectacular.
Torrent is not dead... (Score:2, Informative)
1. Star Wars III Revenge of the Sith. Seeders: 1290, leechers: 14824 2. Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith. Seeders: 241, leechers: 4777 3. Star Wars Revenge of the Sith Episode 3. Seeders: 148, leechers: 4148. And yeah, this is the ultra-crap version with a timecode imprinted.
Re:Cam-rips are usually unwatchable (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Lucas might be peeved... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Go see it in theaters (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Go see it in theaters (Score:1, Informative)
Do you live in Canada or somewhere else without real money? I live in a place with one of the highest costs of living in the US, and movie tickets are only around $8. You're getting ripped off if you're paying $10.
Re:Go see it in theaters (Score:2, Informative)
The "building" you mention is the process of taking films off their 20 minute reels and assembling them into one continuous piece. This change was made to save money on projectionists with the advent of the cineplex (a Canadian invention).
In days of yor the projectionist had to manually synchronize reel changes every 20 minutes. You still often see the reel change signals (a white oval or X in the corner of the frame) preceeding the change. Chaining the platters through multiple projectors is another cost saver for the theatre owners.
Watch out for dim projection. The bulbs are quite expensive and often after the initial run of a big film they will turn down the output of a bulb to make them last longer. Best to see a film in the first few days of release if you can bear the crowds.
My advice - look for digital projection - available in some cities.
Studios have different quality prints (Score:1, Informative)
Re:RotS downloads - Big in Japan! (Score:1, Informative)
But thank you for 2chan.
Re:Get real (Score:3, Informative)
The Napster "reform" caused a emotional setback but with more internet users and much better connections there is still more music sharing now than in 1999 or whenever napster was crushed.
Getting on to the meat of this argument... Each individual case that the media industry persues costs them money. If they settle out of court, the lawyers may be satisfied, but not likely. In reality a business can have several investment decisions all which give a net yeild. Even if throwing the book at troubled fans causes more profits alone, it may be detering more profitable persuits. Reselling quality at lower prices for example may cause a net growth in profits, but by taking the "sue pirates" militaristic attitude the phyche of recording and film industries is against such a possibly lucrative move.
In addition taking such a bully attitude that is made manifest by using DRM and other lame methods to userp fair use rights turns many consumers against their industry who either 1: Only download their movies... or 2: (and worse) Ignore hollywood and the RIAA. Worse of course for the music and film industries whos market is uphelp by reputation and not quality.
Re:Lucas might be peeved... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Go see it in theaters (Score:4, Informative)
Well sorry, the first bit is - film tends to be delivered in 2000foot spools (which equates to about 20min of film) and in the olden days required the use of two projectors and the cue dots and all that - some places still use it, although its more for historical interest than anything - its a more interesting challenge for the projectionist anyway
These days as you say film is 'made up' into one collossal reel so all the projectionist then has to do is lace up the projector once and do a single startup.
No projector I have ever used has required a shutdown in the event of a racking problem (the film being out of line by x number of sproket holes as described in parent) as then all have a vertical adjustment on the gate (the specific part of the projector that passes the film in front of the bulb) varying from half a frame in either direction to a full frame in either direction. This of course means that theres at least a full frame of movement so any possible problems of this sort are easily rectified without requiring a shutdown - good job really as its about the most common problem out there - right up with focus being out
P.S. IAAP (I Am A Projectionist
Also, no cinema I have ever worked for has done a test screening of a print prior to showing it - hell, at least 30% of the time a new film would only show up just in time to be prepared for the first pay-for showing. Thats not to say that 'training shows' were never done which at the places I worked were literally excuses for the staff to watch the movie a bit early
Re:Go see it in theaters (Score:3, Informative)
And that in most cases doesn't affect sound (dolby surround is a tiny track on the left of the film read by a laser, and quite hard to scratch).
Anyway, you can report the film is damaged by using the attached form, and the film will be substituted via UPS / or it will be substituted for the next theatre (at least, if it is a big hit, that's it: unsuccesful movies doesn't pay back for the costly substitution).
Instead, you can say that 90% it's up to old machinery or bad equalization, as well as bad adjustements to the object glass. E.g. we still used a Prevost from the first '90, and it did its work quite well, although not the best. Most small theatres have machinery back from those years.
Mounting the two pizzas won't usually damage the film, too ("pizza" is the slangword for the mounted movie since its shape, and usually you end with two or more of them due to their size and weight), it's just normal usage that wears them out and brings in deterioration.