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Home Made Star Wars Movie Injury 734

SaleNowOn writes "Rather than use expensive cgi techniques to make the light sabres glow for their home movie. This couple instead used fluorescent tubes filled with petrol. Which they then set alight. If they don't survive they must be Future Darwin Award winners. It makes me proud to be British." And me embarassed to be a Star Wars geek.
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  • Glow Sticks (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Rolyat69 ( 838367 ) * on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @11:03AM (#12623510)
    Why oh why didn't they just use Glow Sticks? [howstuffworks.com] Here is a nice article on how they work. Crack them, cut them open, and dump into some sort of clear plastic tubing and seal. From what I understand, Glow Sticks are nontoxic and come in nifty colors! I guess the force just isn't that strong with them. :)
  • The bitch of it is that in my high school electronics class, when we covered Tesla Coils and Van de Graff Generators, our teacher showed us how to have a light saber fight by holding a flourescent tube in one hand and the center tap of a Tesla Coil in the other. Sure, you've gotta be careful not to break the thin glass tube, but at least the results aren't quite so nasty if you do. Probably looks more convincing as well.

    And if you work it right, it also gives you the ability to do the ever popular Jedi trick of throwing someone across the room with the open palm of your hand.

    High voltage beats high temperature any day of the week.
  • by CoffeeJedi ( 90936 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @11:10AM (#12623592)
    we did this in college, holding the tubes with a tesla coil between us, as long as the light was within 3 feet or so of the coil, it lit up
  • Copy Cat'ing (Score:2, Interesting)

    by HaydnH ( 877214 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @11:12AM (#12623618)
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure one of the chucky movies got banned as a pair of kids we're dangerously copying it - they killed someone by tieing him to a railway line iirc. Does this mean they're going to ban star wars movies?
  • Flourescent Tubes (Score:5, Interesting)

    by bsd4me ( 759597 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @11:13AM (#12623626)

    Flourescent tubes will also glow if you hold them while standing under high-tension power lines.

  • Reminds me... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anita Coney ( 648748 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @11:17AM (#12623670) Homepage
    I had a friend, who at the age of 16, decided to build his own flame thrower. Unfortunately for him, it worked. It worked SO well he burned about 80% of his body.

    He was one of those guys who was incredibly intelligent with absolutely NO common sense. Or maybe better put as, smart enough to be dangerous.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @11:23AM (#12623735)
    Nobody forced them to go to Iraq to install said repeater- he or she went because they were offered a boat load of money to do so- or because they are insane. Somehow these people are able to put a price on their own life- something I do not understand.
  • Master Replica (Score:3, Interesting)

    by The employee can cho ( 857896 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @11:47AM (#12624008)
    When I went to see the movie, a guy in the audience brought his Master Replica lightsaber. I had never seen one of these before. In a dark theater, the glow was convincing and impressive.

    This would be a realistic and safe alternative to playing with gas.

    (Whenever he would hold up the lightsaber the crowd would fall silent, waiting to hear the ignition sound - each time followed by a round of applause.)
  • by mikerich ( 120257 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @11:50AM (#12624037)
    Thank god (or the Force), at last something for which people will remember Hemel Hempstead.

    Nonsense - Hemel is already famous for its 'oh my god! oh my god! we're all going to die!' 'magic roundabout' [bbc.co.uk].

    But then I live in Milton Keynes - spiritual home of the roundabout - and we're secretly jealous.

    Mike.

  • Re:Glow Sticks (Score:4, Interesting)

    by dgatwood ( 11270 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @12:02PM (#12624166) Homepage Journal
    Heck, just get yourself a power cord and an upstep transformer and put a few hundred thousand volt charge on one end of the bulb. IIRC, it should then glow through simply leaking electrical charge into the air. Wear nonconductive gloves.

    Yes, I've seen this done, but I don't remember the details.... It may have involved a Vandegraaff generator....

  • by sickofthisshit ( 881043 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @12:04PM (#12624194) Journal
    "Star Wars" is a good sign for Western society....We support democracy.

    Star Wars != support democracy, you dweeb. What, did you attend the George W. Bush school of political science? Where democracy = feel good, with no actual considerations for what defines a democratic society?

    The whole point of the saga is that democratic institutions are weak, and we need princely heros (who have the blood of Anakin coursing through their veins) to protect us from despotism. Queen, Princess, Knight...those are the heroes. Who voted for Luke Skywalker? Who exercises civilian control over the Jedi?

    The Star Wars story *might* correspond to a desire for a constitutional monarchy, respectful of basic human rights, but with a quasi-religious independent military. No democracy there, bub.
  • Re:Glow Sticks (Score:5, Interesting)

    by hey! ( 33014 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @12:05PM (#12624218) Homepage Journal
    This works amazingly well.

    I have a friend who is machinist who made a number of beautiful plastic broadswords that were designed to be filled with something like twenty glow stiks worth of juice. The effect was spectacular, even in moderate lighting. They were exquisitely beautiful creations with several different colored plastic, finely shaped, finished and furnished. His best one he took to an Boskone years ago, where Larry Niven, who was staggering drunk at the time, asked to see it. Naturally Niven waved it around and smashed it against an elevator door, putting an ugly chimp and spiderweb cracks in it. My friend was pissed -- it took forever to make one that nice.

    Personally I would have got a Sharpie and had Niven autograph the sword for me. Something like this: "To Dave -- Sorry about the sword, but I was being a drunk asshole at the time. All the best, Larry"
  • Re:Glow Sticks (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Rei ( 128717 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @12:10PM (#12624255) Homepage
    You need tight field lines to get coronal discharge - and if you use them, you'll probably see lightning coming from it in the dark. Tight field lines generally require fine wires. Also, the glow will be unicolor unless you outgas different gasses from your saber.

    Not that I'd recommend using fluorescent light tubes filled with anything - that's a shatter risk. And while tritium isn't dangerous in most situations, that much tritium in a fragile container is asking for trouble - getting that much on your skin (where some may soak in) and in the air (which you'll breathe), you'll probably get a couple years to a couple decades of background radiation equivalent (based on the fact that drinking an entire tritium rifle sight is a two years dose).
  • by swillden ( 191260 ) * <shawn-ds@willden.org> on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @12:13PM (#12624292) Journal

    Let's make a list here: Fire, Gasoline, Flying glass

    You forgot the best one: soap.

    They mixed the gasoline with soap. The resulting mixture is a sticky, highly flammable sludge often called poor man's napalm. I'm guessing they did it so they could coat the insides of the tubes with a mixture that would stay in place while being swung around. Obviously, gasoline alone would tend to slosh and pour out.

    But when the "saber" shattered, and the stuff splashed on them, it stuck to them, just like napalm does. Gasoline alone would have been much less dangerous since except where it soaked into clothes it would have mostly slid off the people and onto the ground. What little actually did stick would have burned away fairly quickly. This stuff, on the other hand, can stick to skin, hair and clothes in thick globs and continue burning for a very long time. Worse, it's very hard to smother effectively. If you drop to the ground to smother it, the lack of oxygen will stop combustion, but the mixture will probably retain enough heat to reignite as soon as you roll over. It also retains enough heat to continue burning you for quite a while if you wrap up in a blanket or something.

    Very, very nasty stuff to be playing with. It's no surprise that these two may not survive.

    Real napalm, by the way, is also a mixture of gasoline plus other stuff to stabilize it and slow the rate at which it burns.

  • Re:Glow Sticks (Score:5, Interesting)

    by AndroidCat ( 229562 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @12:20PM (#12624349) Homepage
    "Tritium requires a $40,000 dollar license from the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, with secure facilities and weekly medical exams because of its radioactivity. Don't even think about trying to get Tritium. It is dangerous and illegal." (And this from people doing home-built fusion reactors! [brian-mcdermott.com])
  • Re:Flourescent Tubes (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Preston Pfarner ( 14687 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @12:37PM (#12624555)
    A friend in middle school did that; they were having fun, sabers flickering from the power lines, and one of them brought his "saber" down in a centered two-handed downstroke above my friend. My friend held his "saber" horizontally to block -- and it would've worked, too, if the descending saber hadn't shattered -- sending a cloud of sharp glass fragments into my friend's face.

    He did eventually recover.
  • by DarkSarin ( 651985 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @12:40PM (#12624587) Homepage Journal
    No.

    You believe that they are there because of lies. Some of them, presumably, are there because they believe those statements to be true. Some are even there because even though they believe the statements to be of questionable validity, they feel that Iraqis can benefit from reconstruction despite that.

    Finally, whether Bush "lied" or not is academic only. The fact now is that the people in that country need help of some sort.

    Did Bush lie? I am not certain, and I doubt anyone save himself and a few of his closest advisors will ever have enough of the story to be able to say with a reasonable certainty if there were lies or statements that those individuals believed to be true at the time they were spoken.

    Certainly you believe that Bush lied, but that doesn't make it so.

    I am NOT saying he is perfect or that he never colored the truth. I am merely saying that the world is much more complicated that you want to paint it with your "lied and lied an lied and lied" comment.
  • by stanmann ( 602645 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @12:48PM (#12624668) Journal
    Just remember however that the lies that we went in for were not told by George Bush. George Bush recieved poor/misleading intelligence. Sadaam Hussein lied and claimed both to his own people/government/army that there were still weapons and that they were sufficient to stop the US. Those were the lies that brought the US into Iraq. If Sadaam Hussein had not lied, and had complied with the cease fire(NOT peace) agreement. the US would not have needed to CONTINUE the war.
  • by Nopal ( 219112 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @12:53PM (#12624720)
    No, they are there because George W. Bush and many others lied and lied and lied and lied.

    So if there were WMDs you'd be OK with the invasion and subsequent liberation?

    If your answer is yes, then your talk of nobility means squat, since there is nothing noble in letting people continue to live in an oppressive regime had we known there were no weapons. In other words, you come from a selfish and shortsighted point of view where WMDs to you mean the difference between doing the right thing or turning a blind eye to brutality and oppression.

    If you answer no, then your argument that Bush lied is meaningless since either way you'd be against the war. Again, there is no nobility in that.

    There is nothing noble about fighting for lies.

    You seem to confuse objectives with reasons. Our reason for action at the time was in part, the mistaken view that Saddam has weapons. Our objective now is a free and democratic Iraq, and there is plenty of nobility in that. We are there, and rebuilding. That my friend is nobility, but I seriously doubt that someone so hung up on hate for the president will be able to see past the hate.

  • I used to carry a Volkswagon ignition coil and a couple of lantern batteries in my backpack with a wire run down each sleeve. You couldn't get the visible blue arcs or the range, but you could get damn near the same effect if you were careful about it.
  • Re:Glow Sticks (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @01:21PM (#12625014)
    Actually seltzer water and UV light is the cheapest and safest way to get something to glow. It's been used in films.
  • Re:Glow Sticks (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Rei ( 128717 ) on Tuesday May 24, 2005 @01:38PM (#12625241) Homepage
    Tritium is hydrogen, but you don't buy it or store it that way; it would be just plain silly (why make it more reactive and less dense than necessary?). Tritium is stored as heavy water.

    The heavy water passes through your system relatively quickly (I've read that about half of it is gone within three days), but even still, that's a significant exposure to something whose half life is only a little over 12 years, even with its weak beta. As I mentioned, ingesting 100% of the contents of a laser sight is estimated to be about two years of background radiation equivalent (I can dig up the paper again if you would like).

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