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Neal Stephenson on Star Wars in the NYT 679

SnapShot writes "Neal Stephenson has an editorial in the New York Times about the difference between the old Star Wars and the new Star Wars, and the difference between geeking out and vegging out. Oh, and computer scientists and engineers are the Jedi of the U.S." From the article: "Likewise, many have been underwhelmed by the performance of Hayden Christensen, who plays Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader. Only if you've seen the "Clone Wars" cartoons will you understand that Anakin is a seriously damaged veteran, a poster child for post-traumatic stress disorder. But since none of that background is actually supplied by the Episode III script, Mr. Christensen has been given an impossible acting task. He's trying to swim in air."
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Neal Stephenson on Star Wars in the NYT

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  • Impossible? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Rrrrob ( 884676 ) on Friday June 17, 2005 @01:31PM (#12843626)
    Impossible, maybe. But consdering Hayden Christensen never portrayed Anakin as anything but a piece of cardboard, I doubt he's without fault.
  • regfree link (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 17, 2005 @01:34PM (#12843660)
  • Clone Wars (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 17, 2005 @01:35PM (#12843671)
    Clone Wars [imdb.com] is worth a watch. Volume 1 is on DVD, with volume 2 hopefully coming soon.
  • article text (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 17, 2005 @01:36PM (#12843687)
    IN the spring of 1977, some friends and I made a 40-mile pilgrimage to the biggest and fanciest movie theater in Iowa so we could watch a new science fiction movie called "Star Wars." Expecting long lines, we got there early, and found the place deserted.

    As we sat on the sidewalk waiting for the box office to open, others like us drifted in from the towns, farms and colleges of central Iowa and queued up behind. When the curtain in front of the big Cinerama screen finally parted, the fanfare sounded and the famous opening crawl appeared against a backdrop of stars, there were still some empty seats. "Star Wars" wasn't famous yet. The only people who had heard about it were what are now called geeks.

    Twenty-eight years later, the vast corpus of "Star Wars" movies, novels, games and merchandise still has much to say about geeks - and also about a society that loves them, hates them and depends upon them.

    In the opening sequence of the new Star Wars movie, "Episode III: Revenge of the Sith," two Jedi knights fight their way through an enemy starship to rescue a hostage. Ever since I saw the movie, I have been annoying friends with a trivia question: "Who is the enemy? What organization owns this vessel?"

    We ought to know. In 1977, we all knew who owned the Death Star (the Empire) and who owned the Millennium Falcon (Han Solo). But when I ask my question about the new film, everyone reacts in the same way: with a sudden intake of breath and a sideways dart of the eyes, followed by lengthy cogitation. Some confess that they have no idea. Others think out loud for a while, developing and rejecting various theories. Only a few have come up with the right answer.

    One hyperverbal friend was able to spit it out because he had read and memorized the opening crawl. Another, a hard-core science fiction fan, had been boning up on supplemental materials: "Clone Wars," an animated TV series consisting of "epic adventures that bridge the story arc between 'Episode II: Attack of the Clones' and 'Episode III: Revenge of the Sith.' "

    If you have watched these cartoons - or if you've enjoyed some of the half-dozen "Clone Wars" novels, flipped through the graphic novels, read the short stories or played the video game - you will know that the battle cruiser in question is owned by the New Droid Army of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, which is backed by the Trade Federation, a commercial guild that is peeved about taxation of trade routes.

    And that is not the only aspect of "Episode III" that you will see in a different light. If you watch the movie without doing the prep work, General Grievous - who is supposed to be one of the most formidable bad guys in the entire "Star Wars" cycle - will seem like something that just fell out of a Happy Meal.

    Likewise, many have been underwhelmed by the performance of Hayden Christensen, who plays Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader. Only if you've seen the "Clone Wars" cartoons will you understand that Anakin is a seriously damaged veteran, a poster child for post-traumatic stress disorder. But since none of that background is actually supplied by the Episode III script, Mr. Christensen has been given an impossible acting task. He's trying to swim in air.

    In sum, very little of the new film makes sense, taken as a freestanding narrative. What's interesting about this is how little it matters. Millions of people are happily spending their money to watch a movie they don't understand. What gives?

    Modern English has given us two terms we need to explain this phenomenon: "geeking out" and "vegging out." To geek out on something means to immerse yourself in its details to an extent that is distinctly abnormal - and to have a good time doing it. To veg out, by contrast, means to enter a passive state and allow sounds and images to wash over you without troubling yourself too much about what it all means.

    In corporate-speak, there is a related term used when someone has committed the faux pas of geeking out during a meeting
  • by Ieshan ( 409693 ) <ieshan@@@gmail...com> on Friday June 17, 2005 @01:38PM (#12843707) Homepage Journal
    Wait. You read Snow Crash and you say that isn't apocalyptic? [or at least, as you say, Dystopian?].

    Society in Snow Crash is totally different and essentially collapsed in comparison to present day.

    Stephenson has always been like this, for the most part.
  • by vertinox ( 846076 ) on Friday June 17, 2005 @01:43PM (#12843778)
    If I didn't happen to crash at a friends houes after clubbing the week before and he showed us Clone Wars on his Tivo, I woulnd't have had the slightest clue what was happening in Episode 3. There was so much backstory, I think anyone who hasn't watched it will be left in the dark about a lot of things. My friend stated to me they should have made the cartoon into a live action movie and made it Episode 2, which I somewhat agree or least Episode 2.5 as a full length movie.
  • by ievans ( 133543 ) on Friday June 17, 2005 @02:02PM (#12844010)
    From TFA:
    "One hyperverbal friend was able to spit it out because he had read and memorized the opening crawl."

    Stephenson's point is that the important back story for this section of the movie is only explicitly (and only partially) explained in the text prologue. Further, the viewing audience doesn't seem to care much whose ship it is, and happily make the movie a blockbuster without understanding the important plot points. In other words, the plot is secondary to the action sequences in the new movie, and it doesn't matter (the geeks get their background elsewhere, and the non-geeks get to veg out and watch cool f/x).

    Want further proof? Ask 10 random people what the the phantom menace referred to in Episode 1's title was, why was it a chimera, and why was it important to the events in the series? I'd be surprised if more than one or two people were able to explain it.

    Stephenson has a lot more clout than whining Star Wars fanboys, and knows a thing or two about storytelling.
  • by Catbeller ( 118204 ) on Friday June 17, 2005 @02:07PM (#12844074) Homepage
    The "Snow Crash" world is as dystopian as it gets. The US government becomes just another corporation, torturing and drugging its employees in an endless paranoid self-important meaningless power fantasy; pollution is totally uncontrolled, the last wildernesses in Alaska are invaded and ruined by White People in Giant Motorhomes. Prisons are private and are as generic as 7-11's, used by private police corporations to dump any one they damned want gone. Communities are gated, patrolled, armed, openly racist and fascist. The US armed forces have become Uncle Bob's Army, inc., in addition to a jillion little private armies. The CIA has gone private. The land is stripmalled from coast to coast. Everything is a franchise. People are starving and living in shacks. GOOD apartments for people like Hiro are former storage lockers. Every plot of land is corporate and a sovereign state. The U.S. is DEAD.
  • by jamrock ( 863246 ) on Friday June 17, 2005 @02:40PM (#12844566)
    Anakin Skywalker may have doomed his career, unfairly so. The guy has shown that not only can he act, but that he's actually a fine actor. Feel free to check out his performances in "Life As A House" [imdb.com] and "Shattered Glass" [imdb.com]. After seeing these two films, my opinion of Lucas' skills as a director fell even further. I had heard that he was not an actor's director, but to take a fine young actor and elicit such wooden performances from him, Good Lord man!
  • HEY!!!!! (Score:3, Informative)

    by ImaLamer ( 260199 ) <john@lamar.gmail@com> on Friday June 17, 2005 @03:07PM (#12845000) Homepage Journal
  • by martian265 ( 156352 ) on Friday June 17, 2005 @03:50PM (#12845590)
    The Phantom Menace referred to the Sith, but at the beginning of the movie they had no idea it was the Sith. They saw the Menace that was in front of their faces, namely the Trade Federation. What they didn't realize was that there was a more serious threat out there and that it was in fact behind the known threat.
  • by CoffeeJedi ( 90936 ) on Friday June 17, 2005 @04:24PM (#12846014)
    use www.bugmenot.com one time, tell the nytimes to remember you via cookies

    you'll never be asked again
  • by SmallOak ( 869450 ) on Friday June 17, 2005 @04:30PM (#12846089)
    Saw Neil in Toronto last year giving a public talk. He was one of the most civil inteligent person I have had the pleasure to hear.

    I'm enjoying reading his latest doorstop.

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