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CNN Now Offers Free Online Video 372

Drinian writes "It seems that CNN is now offering its video FREE to the public. Apparently, this is a response to pressure from FOX News who has always offered free video. Is this another nail in the coffin of paid content on the internet?"
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CNN Now Offers Free Online Video

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  • No Way (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Luigi30 ( 656867 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:03PM (#12882678)
    Of course it's not the death of paid content. There will always be a low-quality feed for free, but for a few bucks a month you will always be able to upgrade to a higher-quality feed. It's the way of the internet, and it's not going away any time soon.
  • by ranson ( 824789 ) * on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:04PM (#12882686) Homepage Journal
    "Apparently, this is a response to pressure from FOX News who has always offered free video. Is this another nail in the coffin of paid content on the internet?"

    Apparently Drinian thinks he knows the inner-workings of CNN? I see no evidence anywhere (press release or otherwise) to support the idea that this was done to alleviate pressure from competing networks. Perhaps CNN struck some advertising deals that would yeild them more money? Perhaps they realized their subscriber base is so small that maintaining subscriptions was more costly than the revenues from them. There are lots of reasons why the video is free now and i don't think a slashdot headline is an appropriate medium to express the submitter's baseless presumption as to why it happened. With that said, lets all be happy that we have more free news :)
  • Is this... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by eviltypeguy ( 521224 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:05PM (#12882697)
    Is this another article that wants to speak to me like I'm a contestant on Jeopardy? Seriously, the "Is this..." question at the end of "news" "articles" on Slashdot is starting to get old real fast. I'm not on a gameshow blast it!
  • by DJ Rubbie ( 621940 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:06PM (#12882714) Homepage Journal
    If I recall correctly, a while ago (3 years ago or so) CNN offered videos for free to the public before they added in a paid to view pass system.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:13PM (#12882797)
    ...look, the precise complaints against Fox are that they leak in opinion to their so called "hard news" - their main anchor is pretty obvious in his political affiliation, the balance of pundits and opinions is also pretty obvious, and the few suposed "liberals" present (Alan Colmes) are essentially straw men. Compound this with their sensationalistic aspect (really scarier than any partisan bickering), and you'll see why so many people criticize Fox News.

    I'm sorry, but your post amounts to little more than FUD.
  • Americans have such a twisted & skewed idea of what being 'liberal' means, or even 'leftist.' Your average democrat in congress supports big business, tax breaks for them as well (look at the voting record.) Big military (check the voting record again.) And will do whatever they can to stop any form socialized healthcare (think back to hillary's little action committee & the all the democrats that lambasted her for even suggesting health care be nationalized.)... That's your average american democrat.. and that's what you call a 'liberal' .. To me, it's all Very right, Right.. slightly right and then Kucinich.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:18PM (#12882846)
    Bullshit,

    Liberal bias simply means showing both sides of the story -- unless you are counting Air America in which those guys are utter freaks and most of us on the left hate them as much as Rush Limbaugh (note the ways Franken makes Liberals look like an idiot by not even being able to graciously take an award from an admirer and respect them...I can safely say Limbaugh would have had the respect to thank everyone and get off the damn stage).

    Yeah, thats what Liberal Bias is...telling people there are two sides to the story. Conservative bias is saying this is the official party line and if you think anything differently, you must not be a patriot (a phrase thrown around as if their party is the only owner of it, much like Hates America or I'm A Christian).

    I will say, I do like O'Reilly...not the part about talking down to his guests at times (though he has toned that down), but he at least makes his decisions on his own and doesn't need to run them by the RNC before hand.

    Past O'Reilly, fuck Fox News. They claim to be news, but the minute anyone says shit about them, they scream But Its Editorial. I'm sorry, but editorials need to be based in reality as well. You can have your own opinion on things, but if your opinion is spouting out lies over facts, then thats not an opinion but propoganda. I love opinions from people that come to a conclusion different than mine based on fact. Other than O'Reilly, the conservative media knows nothing about doing this.

    Again, Fuck Fox News.
  • by aftk2 ( 556992 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:18PM (#12882853) Homepage Journal
    One might assume that, if your network's name contains the word "News," you'd hold all your broadcasts accountable to the same level of accuracy and minimization of bias.
  • by Wanderer1 ( 47145 ) <wanderer1@p o b o x . c om> on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:19PM (#12882864)
    "Is this another nail in the coffin of paid content on the internet?"

    No.

    "Supply and Demand"

    Clearly, at some juncture, things will evolve past the point where "free as in beer" is the norm, but as long as one of your competitors offers the same service for free, unless you have something people are willing to pay for, you're cannot easily compete with the guy down the street offering an open keg tap.

    So far, I've paid for a Salon subscription (no longer,) and a Slashdot subscription (awhile back) because I wanted to support both enterprises. I also tend to pay PBS and a small radio station (WCPE) which provide material I enjoy with good quality or ideals that I wish to further in the world.

    You may remember, CNN and Fox News get their revenue on the television by selling advertisements. Why would online be any different?

    What you really should be asking yourself is: Is the future of computer network media *sales* in the hands of the podcaster? And if so, will micropayments finally succeed? Visa, Mastercard, Amex? Are you listening? And, oh, by the way, have you had enough ID theft to start using those smart-chip equipped cards yet? I am tired of waiting!

    W
  • So, by that token, with Fox News being centrist according to the studies, they really are rather rightist?

    Note you need to take a world political view, not just American one for this to work.
  • by geoffrobinson ( 109879 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:23PM (#12882901) Homepage
    This isn't news to those who have actually watched the darn channel. Gretta Van whatever, Geraldo, Juan Williams, Gen. Wesley Clark appear on Fox News all the time. It's just that they are to the right of most liberal media outlets. And some far-out leftists view liberal media outlets conservative because they aren't socialists.
  • by harks ( 534599 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:24PM (#12882917)
    So the media has a liberal bias because it is more liberal than the average member of Congress. Does anyone else see the problem with this basis for comparison?
  • by daveschroeder ( 516195 ) * on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:29PM (#12882965)
    I explained exactly what it had to do with the topic in question, which is why CNN is so far behind FOX News in ratings, and is trying to do something about it, which then responds to the

    Also, if you think I or FOX News is "far right", you have no fucking clue what "far right" is. Further, I am not an "evangelical". And lastly, I'm not sure what on my web site [wisc.edu] you find objectionable or "evidence" that I'm an "evangelical". In fact, there is nothing related with any religion or evangelism anywhere on my website.

    Also, what in the living FUCK does any of my post have to do with "values"?

    I await what is sure to be a stunningly cogent reply.
  • by WindowlessView ( 703773 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:39PM (#12883066)

    (Have any of these people ever watched a non-op-ed, i.e., NOT Bill O'Reilly, Hannity and Colmes, etc., hard news show on FOX News, which consumes the majority of the news day from 8am until 7pm?)

    You have to be kidding. From someone who once thought Fox was somewhat refreshing - before they went over the deep end at the start of the Iraq War:

    Take the morning show Fox and Friends with the two male dorks and the obligatory blonde. Hard to believe but they are more revolting than O'Reilly. I don't know why they just don't make it official and wear Team Bush cheerleading outfits and do choreographed dance routines with their choreographed commentary.

    Take John Gibson and his "the world's favorite sport is hating America" book. Is this the balance to Hannity?

    Or Cavuto, who practically got on his knees during his Bush interview.

    Or any of the so-called business shows on Saturday morning which follows the typical Fox script of one somewhat liberal person always being shouted down by 4 or 5 conservatives.

    Open your eyes.

  • by uradu ( 10768 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:42PM (#12883101)
    When the news headline reads "Two weeks till President Bush is reelected", they fail to be a news channel. Out with the pom-poms and kick those legs!
  • by tm2b ( 42473 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:49PM (#12883161) Journal
    All of the news outlets except Fox News Special Report received a score to the left of the average member of Congress.
    Ummm... Duh!

    The average member of Congress is on the right. Of course a centrist position will be to their left. When the Democrats controlled Congress, the average member was to the left and the news tended to be to the right of the average member.

    What a crock.
  • by Cat_Byte ( 621676 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @02:51PM (#12883172) Journal
    Yeah, thats what Liberal Bias is...telling people there are two sides to the story. Conservative bias is saying this is the official party line and if you think anything differently, you must not be a patriot .

    It's funny because it looks exactly the opposite from the other side. Democrats seem to just 'oppose' whatever Republicans say rather than sticking to their own agenda. Look at the last election for example. I still have no clue what Kerry stood for besides not being Bush. Name some Democrats that would think the same way if you agree with the Bush policies? They definitely wouldn't say "well thats the other side of the story but you are still patriotic for saying so". The Christian remark is offensive. Nobody makes statements like that except the liberals. As for your last paragraph, you didn't watch much of the last election did you? Falsified papers about Bush, focusing on one single fact (WMDs) when there was obviously MUCH more to it. Just yesterday they replayed the speech of the final ultimatum to Saddam and it did NOT focus on WMDs. It stated that his days of tyranny and murder were over and they had 48 hours to leave Iraq. As any liberal about that 2nd side of the story and they'll be certain to dispute it was ever said and just spout out something about oil or WMDs. Liberals also conveniently forget that the entire world was behind a resolution to his regime and they all thought there were WMDs. I find it hilarious that the entire liberal population suddenly struck that from their minds and used hindsight as 20/20.

    So anyway...yeah...it looks like politics in general are like that but the finger solidly points at the right as being the only ones who do it. Just look at comments about Bush, Blair, Fox, etc if you don't believe me.

  • by sweetnjguy29 ( 880256 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @03:00PM (#12883286) Journal
    I read the study that you are using for the basis of your opinion piece.

    The methodology is to compare the number of references made by journalists to "left-wing" and "right-wing" think-tanks. The underlying assumption is that liberals will cite left-wing think-tanks more often than right-wing think-tanks. This is a bad assumption.

    The way to determine media bias is to look at what the journalist is saying and determine if what is written is fact or opinion. If it is an opinion, one then determines what category (Right, Left, Center, Other) it falls under. Then you try to determine if the opinion was that of the reporter or the paper...and if it has a connection to an ideology. Its mostly guesswork.

    Thus, the NY Times having 300 Headlines stating "X Soldiers Killed in Iraq" is not indicative of bias...since it is just reporting facts.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @03:03PM (#12883335)
    This is exactly the reason why grandma doesn't run Linux. She'd be OK, until some Website that only runs content on IE browsers comes along, (usually on ALL of them) and BAM, "Why doesn't this work?.

    Just follow these (simple?) instructions, Grandma; (and don't forget to write your own drivers for that dial-up (win)modem and re-compile your Kernel.

    Linux fan who knows that Linux isn't quite ready for the desktop yet.
  • by ashitaka ( 27544 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @03:17PM (#12883504) Homepage
    You have to watch the ad. You cannot skip it, you cannot fast forward it. You are stuck watching that same flipping spot for a car sitting in a waterfall which I for one will never buy.

    That's the trade off. Your time. As valuable as you make it.
  • by shaka999 ( 335100 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @03:24PM (#12883574)
    I do.

    Most people would agree we have a conservative congress in place. If so then an unbiased news outlet should be to the left of the average member of congress.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @03:26PM (#12883589)
    The US is a place of centrist

    Well, compared to Europe the US is right-wing, both the Democrats and Republicans. I don't know who the hell you are comparing to when you say the US is centrist. Europe's political idea's are somewhere between communism and pure American capitalism. America is only centrist when compared to itself. Of course, definitions vary. In most of the world, more left-wing means more personal freedoms, but less economical freedom. In the light of that, would you really call the Republicans centrist? That said, hardly anyone in Europe wants to remove the social security system or many other things generally considered left wing.

    Would you care to give any example to the European right being miles right of the US? It makes absolutely no sense to me. Almost all right wing ideas of 'extremely right' parties in western Europe are already in place in the US.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @03:27PM (#12883594)
    Fox News Special Report is centrist in a true sense. Brit Hume, et al are intelligent people who discuss topics on their merits. No agenda left or right that I can discern, so I consider this to be the definition of centrist.
  • by Retric ( 704075 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @03:28PM (#12883602)
    The left right debate in this country is silly.

    When was the last time someone said "Spending more on our military than the rest of the world put together seems extreme." it's all about "let's protect us from them" without a clear definition of who they are and how and why they are going to hurt us.

    On the other hand when was the last time someone suggested reducing the insane subsidies to farmers in the US?

    Sure people talk about the abortion issue but most Republicans would not vote for a constitutional amendment to change that unless they knew it would not pass.

    Look at all the people going from government jobs to the private sector and guess how many "dirty deals" are really going on.

    People talk about strengthening the US economy but when was the last time someone built a major road in the US? Congestion in the US has gotten worse over the last 10 years everywhere but nobody will talk about it. Things are going down hill fast but hey let's "leave no child behind" and "fight terror" which means what? O yea smoke and mirrors my friend some and mirrors.
  • by Phleg ( 523632 ) <stephen@@@touset...org> on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @03:37PM (#12883712)
    You know, like the Cable News Network?
  • Sponsered Content (Score:3, Insightful)

    by SirSlud ( 67381 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @03:38PM (#12883725) Homepage
    > Is this another nail in the coffin of paid content on the internet?

    There's no such thing as free information. How can slashdot possibly print the above with a straight face; their information is 'free', but the content is highly dictated by commercial interests. Any content with advertising in it is not free. How about 'another nail in the coffin for subscriber supported unbiased editorial and news content?'

    I cannot believe the shit being passed off as news. The Odd News page seems to be the very antithesis of what we need; and yet, we flock to it in droves since real news often doesn't taste so good going down.
  • by bnenning ( 58349 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @04:18PM (#12884194)
    The average member of Congress is on the right.

    Yes, but not by much. The Republicans don't have a large majority, so the "average" member (probably median would be more accurate) is still going to be close to the center.
  • by gstoddart ( 321705 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @04:55PM (#12884595) Homepage
    If you keep saying that Abu Ghraib (sp?) and Gitmo are important national issues that should occupy our minds on a daily basis, that's a perspective that I disagree with. They matter, I'm not saying we shouldn't avoid abuses, but I just don't care much about a few non-citizens locked up in a prison someplace. If abuses are happening, correct them (investigate, fire people, whatever) and shut up.

    Because, when you try to use moral authority to justify 'spreading democracy and freedom' to the rest of the world, and then proceed to spread lies and torture, you have no moral authority left.

    And very quickly everyone else in the world will say but I just don't care much about a few Americans locked up in a prison someplace.

    Saying you don't care makes you an idiot, not enlightened.
  • by saskboy ( 600063 ) on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @09:40PM (#12886369) Homepage Journal
    They disagree with "liberal" media outlets, because those outlets don't openly lie and distort the truth in the name of entertainment like Fox News does. They are not always "yes men" for the Bush Administration. These days telling the news or ignoring it [as in World events], is synonymous with "liberal media", and "fair and balanced" is synonymous with "lie through your teeth if it hooks viewers and supports the Bush administration.

    The American media is so messed up I was tempted to use a swear word instead of "messed up" [but I'm trying to keep slashdot a family website ;-)]. Bill O'Idiot routinely lies, and all you have to do is listen to him speak for 5 minutes to know that, or listen to Al Franken and he'll explain it to you while offering background for the lies.

    All Americans don't have to agree with what their media is broadcasting, but if the media is telling them anything other than the facts within context, then Americans are being MISLEAD. The myth of the free press has been exposed many times, and it angers me that more Americans seem upset about what is portrayed as "liberal bias" by right wing spin doctors like Coulter and O'Idiot, instead of the fact that all of their media outlets simply publish White House propaganda verbatim, are lazy, and are corporate whores.

    The Press is supposed to be relaying facts, it isn't supposed to be popular entertainment that tries to win over viewers by appealing to the viewer's political biases.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, 2005 @11:23PM (#12886805)
    I'm not sure what you mean by noncitizens. Maybe you mean that those detained at Gitmo and elsewhere are not citizens? That doesn't make a lot of sense as everyone's a citizen of somewhere. Maybe you mean no american citizens have been detained as terror suspects, enemy combatants, or some other tortured word play? That doesn't make sense either, because american citizens are as at risk as non american citizens of unlawful detention.

    Why is it that citizenship even begins to be an issue? Torture and abuse are immoral not because they are found by a national court to be so, but because every thinking, feeling, living human being has the fundamental right to be free of torture and abuse. That this right is affirmed by various governments means that the right is recognised, but not granted.

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