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Australia's 'e-tax' Windows Only 478

Kinky Bass Junk writes "As the need to submit tax returns is looming, notification emails are sent out to users of the tax office's services. This year, the Australia Tax Office (ATO) is using a web-based tax return system, as well as the traditional paper based systems. The e-tax website has all the details, and the requirements of the software stand out: 'e-tax is not compatible with Linux or Apple Macintosh computers. However, if you have suitable Windows Emulator software installed, you may be able to use e-tax.' Here is a protest email I have set up for those who disagree with this."
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Australia's 'e-tax' Windows Only

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  • Protest.. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by William Robinson ( 875390 ) on Sunday July 10, 2005 @02:46AM (#13024973)
    Just protest is not enough, I feel. The rights did not come for ladies, for handicapped access and many other until they moved to court.

    This is not expected from federal agencies. Seriously.

  • Give us the source (Score:5, Interesting)

    by lasindi ( 770329 ) on Sunday July 10, 2005 @02:55AM (#13025005) Homepage
    Why doesn't the Australian government provide the source code to the public? I'm sure that there would be plenty of programmers willing to port the program to other platforms.
  • by John Seminal ( 698722 ) on Sunday July 10, 2005 @03:04AM (#13025036) Journal
    I did not pay taxes last year. Or the year before.

    I sent a letter to the IRS, and to the White House, informing them I could not pay taxes because I knew some of the money would be used to kill muslims in the Middle East. As a representative of God on earth, I knew killing is wrong.

    Instead, I offered to offset my taxes by traveling accross the USA and leaving bibles in every hotel room.

    I don't think people should pay taxes. I think taxes are evil. What we need is an income cap. That would do more to save our country. Has anyone been to a movie theater? $10 for a ticket, $4 for popcorn, $4 for a soda. Now multiply that by a family of 4. And add in some rasionettes. All of a sudden, Brad Pitt does not look so charming, when I know the motherfucker is getting $10,000,000 and $74 of that is comming from my wallet. Does that mean if he got $1,000,000 I would have only paid $7.40? Maybe not, but maybe the guy selling me my ticket would make more than minimum wage, and maybe I would not need to watch a Fandango commercial.

    What was this post about?

    Oh, taxes. And how Microsoft sucks. Maybe we can combine the two hates, and appoint Bill Gates as chief of the IRS. I'd hate to say it, but Gates would have a better chance of collecting Taxes from me than Uncle Sam. Bill has a say in how I view porn (Damn you and your DRM WRM v9, I never thought I would pay for porn).

    Oh, about not paying for taxes. The government can not force you to. They can throw you in jail, that is true, but it will cost government $30,000 per year to house you and feed you and pay for the guards and electricity. So if you don't pay taxes, and government sends you to jail, you win. Not only did you not pay taxes, but you forced them to spend $30,000 a year on you.

  • by mxpengin ( 516866 ) on Sunday July 10, 2005 @03:08AM (#13025047) Homepage
    Mexican Goverment has many web tools that must be used by tax payers , sadly this tools require M$ IExplorer to be used. The funny part is that many of this tools are written in java, and they work in part in other browsers/architechtures ... but I guess they never took the time/effort to check them to work correctly but in ie.
  • by KiloByte ( 825081 ) on Sunday July 10, 2005 @06:16AM (#13025534)
    We have exactly the same problem in Poland. The social security "insurance" (read: tax) (ZUS) can be paid only through a Windows program, named Platnik.

    The company who wrote Platnik (Prokom Software) has a set of agreement with Microsoft, and any legal attempts are met with a campaign of delaying any action or dismissing it, usually for procedural reasons.
    You can read the details (in Polish) on the pages of Janosik [janosik.net], an attempt to reverse engineer Platnik and create an alternative.
  • Re:The protest (Score:4, Interesting)

    by LS ( 57954 ) on Sunday July 10, 2005 @08:05AM (#13025830) Homepage
    "self-confessed geeks"

    Hmm, no sooner way to get your email deleted then starting it with this.

    You might as well send an email to them saying your are a "self-confessed knit-o-holic", and that you want them to start sending out tax forms that can be embroidered.

  • by Gyarados ( 893032 ) on Sunday July 10, 2005 @08:26AM (#13025875)

    If people don't take a stand towards such lazy developers, they will only continue to make single-platform software.

    Considering there are plenty of viable solutions for cross-platform development available, I don't think there is any excuse for making single-platform software anymore.

    The only possible exceptions would be for applications which require unusually fast processing, and for games.

  • by menkhaura ( 103150 ) <espinafre@gmail.com> on Sunday July 10, 2005 @08:56AM (#13025973) Homepage Journal
    I'm happy to say that in my country (Brazil), the software for tax returns is, since this year, written in Java, and it works like a charm on Linux, BSD or whatever operating system that has a JVM.
  • by jonored ( 862908 ) on Sunday July 10, 2005 @09:27AM (#13026098)

    I, for one, would very much prefer to have my taxes handled by a program that I can verify directly the security of, and which multiple other people have already looked at who are not connected with the project.

    Security by secrecy of algorithm works poorly at best, while security by overwhelming mathematical complexity (as expressed by the time required to solve a given instance by the most effecient method known), and many proofreading eyes tends to work better.

  • Re:Give me a break (Score:2, Interesting)

    by despisethesun ( 880261 ) on Sunday July 10, 2005 @11:59AM (#13026657)
    But QT is not free

    It is if your code is GPLed, which I don't think is unreasonable to expect from a government-produced app. And if you think it is, GTK is also cross-platform, and it's LGPLed, allowing for the app itself to use any license. There are (many) other problems that get in the way, of course, but this one's covered.
  • by shellbeach ( 610559 ) on Sunday July 10, 2005 @06:34PM (#13028687)
    I understand the governments position in the issue, that by providing for windows they are providing for the larger portion of citizens with computers, whether we like it or not.

    But you see, a government should aim to provide for all the people, not just a proportion of them, even if that proportion happens to be a majority. And - should a government decide to introduce an etax system - it should design a system that is as user-friendly and extensible as possible. Have you seen the crap that they use?? That's truly a system designed by the lowest bidder.

    How hard would it have been to code in java? How obvious would that decision have been?? For that matter, why on earth wouldn't you have a server-side solution which any user can connect to from anywhere only needing a web-browser that supports HTTPS?

    But no - our brilliant government decided to go with a solution that is limited to one OS only. Having a comment about using Windows emulator software just makes it worse, as it shows that they were aware of the fact that not everyone uses Windows, but decided to go with a Windows-only solution anyway.

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