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Gaiman on MP3 Audio Books, Mirrormask 171

A reader writes: "It appears that Neil Gaiman released two of his books (Anansi Boys and American Gods) as books on CD. The interesting twist is that they are being released as MP3 - which for the world of audio books is something pretty new. ". Indeed; MP3 audio books, I think, have given the book publishers the willies because of the DRM issue - anyone else seen this before? And also worth noting that Mirrormask was released in motion picture form and rocks. I think to describe it would be equal parts The Dark Crystal and Myst, combine with Carnivale and a dash of The City of Lost Children.
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Gaiman on MP3 Audio Books, Mirrormask

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  • TFArticle? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Gulthek ( 12570 ) on Monday October 17, 2005 @10:36AM (#13809050) Homepage Journal
    The writeup seems to indicate that Gaiman is actually announcing something or recently held an interview, yet the only links in the story are to the front page of his website and to his books.
  • audiobook mp3s (Score:5, Informative)

    by digitaldc ( 879047 ) on Monday October 17, 2005 @10:38AM (#13809064)
  • by maddogdelta ( 558240 ) on Monday October 17, 2005 @10:41AM (#13809080)
    And Baen books [baen.com] has been releasing some of their books as mp3 audiobooks.

    Not huge yet, but let's face it... as far as security is concerned, If you can get the cd, you can rip to mp3. I do that all the time to get books to listen to while I'm running. Angela's Ashes will be playing for me during a marathon this weekend.

    (For you national socialists at RIAA, no, I am not posting the mp3's. This is for my own fair use)

  • by Rob the Bold ( 788862 ) on Monday October 17, 2005 @10:43AM (#13809102)
    MP3 audio is supported in the latest Digital Talking Books standard used by the Library of Congress (ANSI/NISO Z39.86). The LOC is looking for contractors now to produce DTBs for the blind and visually imparied, so you'll be seeing a lot of these (or perhaps hearing them) soon. Digital distribution of talking books should result in more affordable equipment for playing the media and easier mass duplication.
  • Another place for MP3 audio books is Project Gutenberg [gutenberg.org].

    They have collections [gutenberg.org] of both human read mp3 audio books [gutenberg.org] and computer read mp3 audio books [gutenberg.org] (kind of weird).

  • by chiark ( 36404 ) on Monday October 17, 2005 @10:45AM (#13809110) Homepage Journal
    Isis publishing has been releasing compressed format audio books for a couple of years. It makes sense, after all would you prefer 1 disc, or 11 discs, if you're manufacturing and shipping the things? OK, they currently use WMA, but at least they're trying :-)

    If you put the stuff out on CD it will be ripped, end of story (no pun intended). If you can reduce your costs significantly and provide the same thing, then why not do it? It's not like audio books need --alt-preset extreme applied to 'em, is it?

    MP3s of audio books are excellent for long car journeys, etc, so more power to the elbow of those making them: I'll keep buying them.
  • by QuijiboIsAWord ( 715586 ) on Monday October 17, 2005 @10:48AM (#13809127)
    I myself usually have both a regular book and an audiobook in progress, but Audiobooks, even the well acted kind, don't hold a candle to the likes of:
    Big Finish http://www.bigfinish.com/ [bigfinish.com] Fantastic scifi audio (mostly Doctor Who related)
    or
    Noise Monster http://www.noisemonster.com/ [noisemonster.com].
    Anyone wanting something more than an audiobook, but still staying in the audio medium should check out their stuff. It's written and produced directly for the audio, and in the case of Doctor Who from Big Finish, is licensed by the BBC and uses the original cast.
  • Bad format, though (Score:2, Informative)

    by Lauri Alanko ( 66 ) on Monday October 17, 2005 @10:52AM (#13809149)
    MP3 is not really optimal for speech. E.g. speex [speex.org] would provide much better quality/bitrate ratio. Sadly, speex is not very well supported. (I would love to have a digital portable recorder with a built-in speex codec.)
  • by Grfxho ( 866867 ) <grfxho@ y a h o o . c om> on Monday October 17, 2005 @10:52AM (#13809150)
    I have a copy of two Gaiman plays/monologues on CD. They are fantastic to listen to, but I'm not sure I would feel the same about American Gods--mainly because of the length and number of CDs that traditional audio CDs would involve.

    When American Gods was released in print, I was lucky enough to have the first chapter read to me by Gaiman at a signing, and it was fantastic to listen to him read that much of it. But the thought of lugging around multiple CDs (which is traditionally how they come) for one lengthy novel puts me off the audio bit.

    I have a copy of The Lord of the Rings trilogy on CD that is supposedly fantastic, but it's almost a spindle-worth of CDs and I can't get into it because of that--what a commitment. And I'd rather carry around a tattered copy of the book than spend the time ripping them to MP3s that I could dump to my iPod so I could have them on the go.

    MP3 format should make the audios involve less discs... and that appeals to me. BUT, I don't have an MP3 player in my car, so the disc would be ripped to my computer and dumped on my iPod for transport.

    As an aside, Daniel Quinn's book Ishmael was given to me as a book on tape about 10 years ago. I wore it out listening to it and am now searching for another audio copy of that recording.

    And I should probably also note that I am generally a very page-turning traditionalist when it comes to my reading...but audio adaptations/recordings do have their place.

  • Re:Audible dot com (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 17, 2005 @10:53AM (#13809158)
    You can also open the Audible format in Goldwave and convert to mp3. I only do this as a convenience for myself, however. I think Audible has one of the best internet entertainment services around. Much better than iTunes...my online library is HUGE (two audiobooks a month for $20/mo).
  • by bedroll ( 806612 ) on Monday October 17, 2005 @12:24PM (#13809799) Journal
    Actually IRiver and RIO both have players that support Ogg. Yes MP3 is a more universal format so using it for a an audio book is the logical choice.

    So does Samsung and iAudio. Last week my wife decided she finally wanted an MP3 player and, since I'd ripped most of our CDs in OGG format, I required that it support OGG. She required that it be "cute". This was far more difficult than one might think.

    The first problem: Sorting out which players actually support OGG. Depending on what website you go to to compare, and what manufacturer you use, it can be quite difficult to find which players support OGG. Many of the manufacturers do not support OGG on all players (iRiver, for example). Some players claim OGG support in some places but not others.

    The second problem: "What the hell is OGG?" That's what most non-geeks will say. Even some geeks who think that de facto standards trump open standards will give you a queer look when you mention OGG. Certainly you'll run into problems if you walk into Best Buy and say: "I'm looking for an MP3 player with OGG support."

    The third problem (not for me, but I'm sure for many): It's not supported on the iPod. Ugh. Yeah yeah, AAC, whatever.

    The fourth problem: You've made using iTunes much more difficult. Now you must either burn and copy or use something to strip the DRM. Of course, you could use another service, but then you get Microsoft DRM, which is bleh. Then you have eMusic, which is good accept it's a monthly fee service (the only point of joining a service like that is to get the occasional single, otherwise buying CDs is so much better) and it doesn't have as good of a library. There's the less-than-legal ways to get your music, but they shouldn't be considered (for this argument).

    Wow, what a tangent.

    Anyway, the flip side of this is when someone gets a player that supports OGG, but doesn't do so purposefully. They read something that says "OGG Vorbis support" and don't know what that is. Then they forget. After that, as far as their concerned, they don't have a way to play that.

  • by AaronStJ ( 182845 ) <(AaronStJ) (at) (gmail.com)> on Monday October 17, 2005 @01:11PM (#13810154) Homepage
    I saw Neil Gaiman at a book reading/signing in Seattle, where he talked about the mp3 audio book. Apparently Gaiman had to fight hard with his publishers to get the book out on mp3. The publishers were worried about an MP3 CD having no protection against copying and sharing whatsoever. But in Gaiman's own (paraphrased) words "Most people, when they buy the audiobook, the first thing they're going to do it carefully rip it and put it on their iPod. So why can't we just do most of the work for them?"

    So once again, it's a case of the artist fighting for better access for the listener/reader/watcher, against the wished of the business execs. They claim they're trying to protect the artist but when artists have to fight for things they want, like mp3 audiobooks, CC-licensed book, and torrents of albums, it gets pretty easy to see through the lies.
  • by ObscureStooge ( 811692 ) on Monday October 17, 2005 @01:39PM (#13810373)
    A couple of other good audio books as MP3's are Scott Sigler's [scottsiger.net] EarthCore and Ancestor. He's been releasing them as a podcast, one episode a week. EarthCore is now complete, you can download the whole thing. Ancestor just started a few weeks ago. He went direct to podcast with these, and EarthCore generated enough interest that he got a book deal out of it. Dead tree edition is available in November.

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