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Use of Student Plants to Pitch Products Rising 274

theodp wrote to mention a Seattle PI article about software and niche companies using college-age hucksters to get the word about their product out. From the article: "Microsoft is among a growing number of companies seeking to reach the elusive but critical college market by hiring students to be ambassadors -- or, in more traditional terms, door-to-door salesmen. In an age when the college demographic is no longer easily reached by television, radio or newspapers -- as TiVo, satellite radio, iPods and the Internet crowd out the traditional advertising venues -- a microindustry of campus marketing has emerged. Niche firms have sprung up to act as recruiters of students, who then market products on campus for companies such as Microsoft, JetBlue Airways, The Cartoon Network and Victoria's Secret."
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Use of Student Plants to Pitch Products Rising

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30, 2005 @12:40AM (#13907537)
    "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
  • by saskboy ( 600063 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @12:43AM (#13907548) Homepage Journal
    I've tried marketing voting at a University, and people weren't interested. The problem was I wasn't handing out ballots with a pen, and a ballot box down the hallway. Kids will take what is pushed into their hand, especially if the pusher is attractive, and they don't stand to lose money immediately on the free product. I may not be attractive enough to market democracy, but isn't it a shame that Coke and Microsoft have that kind of appeal, but the fricken government that can take your money WITHOUT tricking you with marketing, holds no interest with the slobbering masses.
  • by Sensible Clod ( 771142 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @12:50AM (#13907568) Homepage
    Well, there's an important factor that may or may not make this effective.

    See, most kids these days aren't really interested in voting, in part because they don't really see how it might benefit them, and because many of them are more or less disillusioned with government in general.

    On the other hand, how could you NOT be interested in Vicky's Secrets? There are obvious benefits ;-)
  • by thesandtiger ( 819476 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @12:50AM (#13907570)
    I don't mean to be rude, but don't you think the problem might be your attitude? You're referring to people as "the slobbering masses." I think you'd do better if you tried not insulting the people you're reaching out to.

  • I think the difference is that with the Government CAN take your money without marketing. When your opinion has little effect on whether or not someone can do something, and then even less effect on what happens to that money once it's gone, apathy reigns.

    Yes, I know that voting is the method to change those two things, but a lot of people see it as an 8000lbs gorilla that can and will do whatever the heck it wants.
  • by StevenMaurer ( 115071 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @12:55AM (#13907588) Homepage
    A guy goes into a small business convention and gets roped in by some huckster trying to get him into a Multilevel Marketing company. After sitting through his lecture about how great the opportunity is, how it's can't miss, how he can just get everyone around him to buy the company's crap at outrageous prices, and there isn't much investment, the guy gets asked "Come on! What have you got to lose?"

    His answer: "All my friends".

    "Push marketing" types, also known as salesmen, keep trying to push crap products onto people. But generally, good products sell themselves.

  • I've seen them (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Ctrl+Alt+De1337 ( 837964 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @01:03AM (#13907611) Homepage
    Here at the University of Florida I've seen the Microsoft ones. They're heavily promoting OneNote, figuring college students probably would have use of note-taking software. Except that most people don't go to class, ergo they don't take notes, and those that do generally buy the note packets from local copy stores (professors put all of their slides or outlines of all of the lectures together and the stores print and bind them). There's no need for OneNote when you have the slides on paper.

    They also wrote a URL for how to download a free trial in sidewalk chalk all over campus, which is technically regarded as graffiti and as such is against campus rules. Fortunately a combination of UPD and the outer bands of Tropical Storm Tammy took care of that. I haven't seen them since.
  • Already a term.. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Bananatree3 ( 872975 ) * on Sunday October 30, 2005 @01:11AM (#13907638)
    This is called Astroturf. (movements that look their grassroots, but in reality are sponsored by a company).
  • by Nimey ( 114278 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @01:20AM (#13907659) Homepage Journal
    It's not quite that cheap -- the school's part of the license fees comes from student activity fees or somesuch.
  • by mister_llah ( 891540 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @01:56AM (#13907755) Homepage Journal
    Microsoft does make signifigant student discounts, though they certain could make more, Office is still quite expensive for those of us who are broke.

    I'd love to see *ADOBE* really cut their prices for students... God forbid an graphic design student actually want to buy a copy of Photoshop...
  • Everybody Wins (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30, 2005 @02:07AM (#13907796)
    Everyone wins.

    Student Salesman: Gets money

    College Students: learn more about products, get discouts thanks to their friends being reps.

    Companies: More sales.

    My high school had this around prom time... 10% off your tux rental for each refereal... refer 10 and its free.
  • by QuantumG ( 50515 ) <qg@biodome.org> on Sunday October 30, 2005 @02:26AM (#13907847) Homepage Journal
    It teaches deceptive business practices. It's only salesmanship if you're upfront with people, otherwise it's just grifting.
  • by Mateito ( 746185 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @02:42AM (#13907891) Homepage
    If people only bought things that were of high quality and good value for money that they actually needed, the world economy would grind to a halt.

    Consumer based economies rely that most of the money that people earn will be spent, thus keeping allowing more things to be produced, employing more people and round and round we go. Of course, the government takes a chunk of every dollar when its earned and then again when its spent. Its fun to watch how much of a dollar goes to the goverment once its been spent and earned a couple of times.

    Times have changed since your Granpa's day. Globalisation means that this cycle is undergoing a readjustment.

    Take Wal*Mart for example. Everybody wants goods at the cheapest price, but locals want living wages. The net effect is that manufacturing is moved off-shore to produce cheaper goods that local people can buy, but as they is now less money in the local economy, there are few jobs, meaning on average have less money to spend, meaning they want even cheaper goods. There are some economists who predict that Wal*Mart will cause the biggest change in US standards of living in the history of the country.

    The trick is, of course, that we are simply shifting to a new equilibrium. If nobody has money to buy goods, Wal*Mart will suffer, so they won't let its prices drop too far. Eventually prices will stabilize to a level where local people and local industry will live in harmony with outsourcing to cheaper countries. Notably, these cheaper countries will slowly become less cheaper. Outsourced and Local wages will eventually meet in the middle (in some industries, they already have).

    I know many of us have been bitten by out-sourcing to India, but we (as a society) have shown time and again that, despite all the lip-service, saving that few dollars on the cost of weekly tinned food bill is more important that local jobs.

    You can't have the benefits of globalisation without the downsides - its part and parcel of the same model.
  • by Shano ( 179535 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @03:27AM (#13907995)

    I think there's a difference between "unreasonably low prices" and "prices students can afford".

    Clearly, if they have to be that low for students to buy the stuff, there's a reason for lowering prices. Unless they're making a huge loss on every sale.

  • So how many of the people posting on Slashdot are CRs and what companies do they represent?

    It's too big a forum for marketers to ignore completely, so there'd have to be a few either monitoring or contributing. Any brave enough to come out of the closet and tell us about it?
  • by geminidomino ( 614729 ) * on Sunday October 30, 2005 @05:49AM (#13908239) Journal
    BTW, buying only USA made products is not an easy chore... it should be... at least in my opinion.

    What's actually made in the USA these days? We've essentially fulfilled THAT particular Snow Crash prophecy.

    1. Software
    2. Music
    3. Movies
    4. Pizza Delivery*


    Of course, we haven't been split into a mass of corporate-owned fiefdoms yet, but that's mostly probably because none of the corporations want to limit their "markets."

    *Taken as an umbrella metaphor for "service-based" industries like landsharks^Wlawyers and conslutants rather than "production-based" such as manufacturing.

  • Part of your tuition pays for this. So actually, if you don't buy the programs you lose money.

    At Umich, XP costs $14.15 and Office costs $42.45. The copy you get claims that you can only install it twice, but I've been using the same copy of XP through several reformats as well as a total of 3 computers. Once it called my bluff, but a simple call to support and an explanation that I was reformatting got me a new serial which hasn't brought up a single problem since.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30, 2005 @06:52AM (#13908342)
    To vanish the images of semi-nude women standing behind your door from your mind: Remember that most of the readers (males) won't be the target market. The female college students will be promoting these products to their female friends.

    Doh!
  • by rfc1394 ( 155777 ) <Paul@paul-robinson.us> on Sunday October 30, 2005 @09:51AM (#13908626) Homepage Journal
    Title 15, chapter 2, sec 13a of the US Code (Part of the The Clayton Antitrust Act) says it's illegal to:

    to sell, or contract to sell, goods at unreasonably low prices for the purpose of destroying competition or eliminating a competitor.

    No, the law says it's illegal to discriminate in price for that reason, it does not matter whether the price is lower or not. This means that selling for a higher price (you must have an illegal monopoly or you couldn't get a higher price), a lower price (you are selling for less to run competitors out of business), or even the same price (which is price fixing) can all be considered a violation of law. Yeah, you got it right, technically any sale at all at any price could, theoretically be in violation of the Clayton Act since, supposedly one wants to make sales which can then eliminate competitors.
  • by Locke03 ( 915242 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @10:02AM (#13908645)
    I dunno, considering most college students I know border on being broke almost all the time, $400 is still a lot of money. It leads to pirace when we need to use the software, can't get to a school lab that has it, and can't afford to buy it even with a 66% discount.
  • by swillden ( 191260 ) <shawn-ds@willden.org> on Sunday October 30, 2005 @10:23AM (#13908702) Journal

    This is called Astroturf.

    Actually, there's a much older term: "shill".

  • The major difference in most European countries is having a Proportional Representation (PR) system of voting, which at least means that if 10% of people vote for someone like Green, Libertarian, whatever, that they then get something close to 10% of the seats.

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