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Using Copyrights To Fight Intelligent Design 1634

An anonymous reader writes "The National Academies' National Research Council and the National Science Teachers Association are using the power of copyright to ensure that students in Kansas receive a robust education. They're backed by the AAS: The American Association for the Advancement of Science." From the release: "[they] have decided they cannot grant the Kansas State School Board permission to use substantial sections of text from two standards-related documents: the research council's 'National Science Education Standards' and 'Pathways to Science Standards', published by NSTA. The organizations sent letters to Kansas school authorities on Wednesday, Oct. 26 requesting that their copyrighted material not be used ... Leshner said AAAS backs the decision on copyright permission. 'We need to protect the integrity of science education if we expect the young people of Kansas to be fully productive members of an increasingly competitive world economy that is driven by science and technology ... We cannot allow young people to be denied an appropriate science education simply on ideological grounds.'"
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Using Copyrights To Fight Intelligent Design

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  • Arrooooo? (Score:5, Funny)

    by SatanicPuppy ( 611928 ) <Satanicpuppy.gmail@com> on Sunday October 30, 2005 @03:44PM (#13909932) Journal
    Holy crap! Two wrongs DO make a right!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30, 2005 @03:47PM (#13909950)
    Luckily, the offical text of the Flying Spaghetti Monster [venganza.org] is published under a free license!
  • by saskboy ( 600063 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @03:53PM (#13909977) Homepage Journal
    [Taken from http://abstractfactory.blogspot.com/2005/10/only-d ebate-on-intelligent-design-that.html [blogspot.com] ]
    The only debate on Intelligent Design that is worthy of its subject

    Moderator: We're here today to debate the hot new topic, evolution versus Intelligent Des---

    (Scientist pulls out baseball bat.)

    Moderator: Hey, what are you doing?

    (Scientist breaks Intelligent Design advocate's kneecap.)

    Intelligent Design advocate: YEAAARRRRGGGHHHH! YOU BROKE MY KNEECAP!

    Scientist: Perhaps it only appears that I broke your kneecap. Certainly, all the evidence points to the hypothesis I broke your kneecap. For example, your kneecap is broken; it appears to be a fresh wound; and I am holding a baseball bat, which is spattered with your blood. However, a mere preponderance of evidence doesn't mean anything. Perhaps your kneecap was designed that way. Certainly, there are some features of the current situation that are inexplicable according to the "naturalistic" explanation you have just advanced, such as the exact contours of the excruciating pain that you are experiencing right now.

    Intelligent Design advocate: AAAAH! THE PAIN!

    Scientist: Frankly, I personally find it completely implausible that the random actions of a scientist such as myself could cause pain of this particular kind. I have no precise explanation for why I find this hypothesis implausible --- it just is. Your knee must have been designed that way!

    Intelligent Design advocate: YOU BASTARD! YOU KNOW YOU DID IT!

    Scientist: I surely do not. How can we know anything for certain? Frankly, I think we should expose people to all points of view. Furthermore, you should really re-examine whether your hypothesis is scientific at all: the breaking of your kneecap happened in the past, so we can't rewind and run it over again, like a laboratory experiment. Even if we could, it wouldn't prove that I broke your kneecap the previous time. Plus, let's not even get into the fact that the entire universe might have just popped into existence right before I said this sentence, with all the evidence of my alleged kneecap-breaking already pre-formed.

    Intelligent Design advocate: That's a load of bullpoop sophistry! Get me a doctor and a lawyer, not necessarily in that order, and we'll see how that plays in court!

    Scientist (turning to audience): And so we see, ladies and gentlemen, when push comes to shove, advocates of Intelligent Design do not actually believe any of the arguments that they profess to believe. When it comes to matters that hit home, they prefer evidence, the scientific method, testable hypotheses, and naturalistic explanations. In fact, they strongly privilege naturalistic explanations over supernatural hocus-pocus or metaphysical wankery. It is only within the reality-distortion field of their ideological crusade that they give credence to the flimsy, ridiculous arguments which we so commonly see on display. I must confess, it kind of felt good, for once, to be the one spouting free-form bullshit; it's so terribly easy and relaxing, compared to marshaling rigorous arguments backed up by empirical evidence. But I fear that if I were to continue, then it would be habit-forming, and bad for my soul. Therefore, I bid you adieu.
  • by Hesperus ( 16733 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @03:54PM (#13909981) Homepage
    It's about durned time somebody rekonized that we wuz put here by Ayleens! I luv Intellegent design!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30, 2005 @04:15PM (#13910087)
    Just as we must constantly update students' computers and books, updating science and core academic curriculum is essential. Keeping them in the dark with an antiquated, unproven teaching theory is impractical and unhealthy. The theory of evolution remains simply that, a theory. Evolution was used by Charles Darwin to explain the unexplainable.

    A newer, alternative view provides balance to the age-old argument, pitting creationism against evolution. It's called intelligent design. It studies the science of intelligence or intelligent life. It says the universe shows evidence for design. I don't think any would argue that we are all intelligently and uniquely designed.

    You can believe what you want about who created the world and what's in it. As a Christian, I know it was Jesus, but intelligent design doesn't require belief in Jesus. Students can make up their own minds or develop their own opinions about who they believe the "Creator" is. Intelligent design is not creationism or naturalism; it simply follows the empirical evidence of design wherever it leads.

    Darwinists describe evolution as "merely change" in living organisms. How absurd. We just changed from one being to the next? If that's the case, who is responsible for that change? How did we come into being before we changed? These are the questions that intelligent design allows students to probe no matter who they might believe is the author of that design.

    Opponents to creationism and intelligent design argue that school science classes should focus on genuine scientific theories. Well, evolution certainly fails that test. And to simply say intelligent design is not a genuine scientific theory is simply an opinion, not fact. Intelligent design can and has been proved scientifically.

    Intelligent design is accepted by religious and nonreligious academics and scientists; supported by microbiologists and mathematics. In a Natural History Magazine study, three proponents of intelligent design summarize their findings this way:

    * Every living cell contains many ultra-sophisticated molecular machines.

    * Intelligence leaves behind a characteristic signature.

    * Darwin's finches and four-winged fruit fly theories cannot account for all features of living things.
  • by 2.7182 ( 819680 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @04:20PM (#13910118)
    According to your idea, Art history is science.
  • ...unless school teaches about the Intelligent Designer also. That Intelligent Designer is Jesus Christ: The Creator of heaven and earth, the King of Glory, the God of Life. Without mention of Him, and the Atonement whereby He took upon Himself all the sins and suffering of the world, the study of Intelligent Design is a waste of time.

    Jesus Christ should be the central focus of our heart, mind and soul - every minute of every day. All this other academic ciriculum is only skirting around the core issue.
  • by rumblin'rabbit ( 711865 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @04:43PM (#13910286) Journal
    The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not intolerant. It's an all-loving, all-forgiving being who reaches out to all of humanity with its al dente arms, preferably with a little parmesan and a good bottle of red wine.
  • by SatanicPuppy ( 611928 ) <Satanicpuppy.gmail@com> on Sunday October 30, 2005 @04:54PM (#13910358) Journal
    Hah. I hadn't thought my sig would ever be so relevant.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30, 2005 @05:00PM (#13910401)
    Evolution does have reproducable results via experimentation. Biologists, Geneticists, Medical Doctors, and many others have been documenting it for years.


    So the doctors are Intelligently designing life ;)
  • by Ohreally_factor ( 593551 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @05:19PM (#13910524) Journal
    What do you mean "replaced"? Those who have been touched by his noodley appendage know directly that FSM is the deity.

    And as far as it being as valid as so called "Christian ID", then tell me, how do you explain the existence of Parmesan cheese? ID and other Christian creation myths completely duck this question.
  • by raju1kabir ( 251972 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @05:26PM (#13910563) Homepage
    What about dogs and wolves? Horses and donkeys? Horses and zebras?
    Either you're statement is incorrect or those aren't different species. They're still the same basic body type, for lack of a better term.

    The definition in the antecedent post was incomplete. If they're different species, they can't produce fertile offspring.

    For example, when Kansas State Board of Education chairman Steve Abrams has sex with monkeys, I would not at all be surprised if offspring are occasionally conceived. And due to his views on abortion, they will of course be brought to term if at all possible. However, those sad little creatures will never produce children of their own, because Steve Abrams is a different species of monkey from those commonly available for fornication in Kansas.

  • by connah0047 ( 850585 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @08:15PM (#13911531)
    Inconceivable!
  • by saskboy ( 600063 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @08:23PM (#13911568) Homepage Journal
    What worries me though is the moron that modded it "insightful". I suppose 50% of Slashdot moderators are stupider than the smarter 50%, though.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30, 2005 @11:02PM (#13912292)

    Brian: "Let me try and summarize this: God is His son. And His son is God. But His son moonlights as a holy ghost, a holy spirit, and a dove. And they all send each other, even though they're all one and the same thing?"

    Charlie: "You've got it. You really could be a nun!"

    Brian: "Wait a minute... what I just said, does that make any sense to you?"

    Charlie: "Well, no. It doesn't make sense to anyone - that's why you have to have faith. If it made sense, it wouldn't have to be a religion!"

  • by UnapprovedThought ( 814205 ) on Sunday October 30, 2005 @11:54PM (#13912534) Journal

    I suppose if someone really wanted to enumerate the whole list of Design hypotheses, there shouldn't only be ID, FSM, or BSD, it should begin to look something like this:

    • Intelligent Design, where it is presumed that a very powerful being creates the Earth and decides all of the finer details of it
    • Indirect Design (I indirectly created the earth as a result of getting the Mother Goddess pregnant, it was all part of my plan... but, I left the details to somebody else.)
    • Unintentional Design (I got the Mother Goddess pregnant and now look what happened -- there are billions of people pestering me every day with trivial requests about back problems and skin infections)
    • Accidental Design (oops, I didn't mean to create that, and now that darned Prometheus gave out Fire while I wasn't looking)
    • Messed Up Design (Now listen up folks, I was going to say "let there be light... elements" but somebody interrupted, so now we've got to wait until the fusion reactor cools down.)
    • Profitable Design (Once the population reaches 1 trillion, we will teleport them to Deneb where they will make profitable slaves for our salt mines)
    • Evil Design (Muhahahahaaa... look at those fools I've created, who think I did this for anything other than my own amusement. Howsabout another hurricane eh? *Whoosh!*)
  • by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Monday October 31, 2005 @01:34AM (#13912912) Journal
    to point out that neither of the names you mentioned occur in LDS literature. Perhaps you mean 'Moroni' and 'Esther'? Showing your own ignorance is no way to go about pointing out another's.

    I think it was meant as a half-hearted joke. It would be funny to make a religion out of silly names and people never notice the difference. Maybe reverse the letters and have Xunil instead of Linux, Lrep instead of Perl, etc.

    Joseph Smith is perhaps laughing his ass off in heaven (or hell) saying thing such as, "And they bought the idea of multiple wives. We were just horney bastards; it was was a revelation from my dick, not from God."
               
  • by paul248 ( 536459 ) on Monday October 31, 2005 @02:29AM (#13913078) Homepage
    You're thinking too hard... it's all quite simple:
    char father[MAX_INT];
    char *son = father;
    void *holy_spirit = father;

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