Ant writes "The Sci-Fi channel has announced that it will not be renewing its (very popular) original seriesStargate SG-1 for another season.The spinoff series Stargate: Atlantis will get the nod, though, airing for a fourth year. SG-1 aired its 200th episode on August 18th, and the SF series is the longest-running SF show on American television." Gateworld has further details: "New episodes of both Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis continue Fridays this summer starting at 9 p.m. Eastern/Pacific, leading up to the mid-season finale on September 22. The second half of the season will begin in March, leading to SG-1's final bow on SCI FI in June."
It's just like that show with the guy who went through a space warp portal thing and landed on that living space ship thing with those little yellow robots and those damn crackers... what was the name of that show again?:)
guess the Doctor will be taking SG-1s time slot on fridays.
That would be cool. The timeslot of the longest-running sci-fi show on American television (200+ episodes since 1997) taken over by the longest-running sci-fi show of British television (720+ episodes since 1963, although not continuously).
You know you can have a life on friday night and still watch your geek shows. There are two devices that let you do this by recording the shows so you can watch them later.
One of them is called a V-C-R and you can pick one up at a flea market for a few bucks. They first got popular back in the '70 when people relized they could watch porn at home. Or if they had a camera they could make their own porn. (I wouldn't recommend the home made to anyone though. Its usually just 5 mins of some dude poorly focues bare ass bouncing.) It works by letting you record the show you want to watch on a very fragle tape like substance in pour quality.
The other is called a D-V-R. It works pretty much the same way as a VCR but instead of tape, it uses an expensive and fragle highly spinning disk of death. One of the best things about a dvr is after a while it will start suggesting shows for you to watch. You might find that it has better taste in TV than you do. I know mine does.
Personally, I have mixed feelings about this.
On one hand, I don't like where the show's been heading. The Ori aren't good villains. I don't like the concept, and the execution has been even worse. They're fighting gods, for all intents and purposes. It's the same problem as Superman: you're constantly getting stronger because instead of writing within the same levels of powers, writers take the easy out and make a challenge that is overcome by making the protagonist(s) stronger, instead of writing for the same strengths, but dealing with choices they make and the consequences they face.
On the other hand, the characters are well fleshed out, well written, and the show is still good in SPITE of these crappy villains. The relationships are among the best written on TV right now, in my mind only second to Battlestar Galactica, maybe tying with House.
I only hope that they can end the series as well as it would have ended had it not been renewed after Season 7 like they thought.
You nailed it. This is my biggest problem with science fiction today. They give too much power to the good guys, and then they have to scale up the bad guys to compensate. Eventually the battle reaches a point where you can't even relate to it anymore. The matrix committed this error along with nearly every anime I've ever seen.
My other problem is that eventually you end up at a point where some genius with access to the script decides to, for example, destroy a sun in an easily repeatable way, and then for the rest of the series, blowing up a sun is a solution for every problem but has to be ignored. It is short sighted and every writer should read their script and look for these obvious and completely avoidable future plot holes.
Oh, I thought they were talking about the Asgard (shameless bastards).
This is one thing I never understood. Why do advanced races no longer need clothing in out shows? Would that mean people in nudist camps are onto something?:D
Well, the Asgaard were originally much more human-like in appearance, and came to look as they do now because of millenia of genetic deterioration as a side-effect of the cloning process they use to maintain their numbers. My hypothesis, therefore, is that they have developed a painful hereditary skin condition that chaffes them terribly.
I wonder if the original cast members wanted too much money, or if they simply got tired of doing the show and told the network they wouldn't do it any more. Those are the only two reasons I can think for cancelling one of your most profitable shows.
by Anonymous Coward
on Tuesday August 22 2006, @08:39AM (#15954907)
It could also be there simply isn't much more story to tell. A lot of fans will agree that there wasn't much point to the last two seasons. The main story threads were cleaned up at the end of season 8 (in an episode entitled "Threads" no less). Introducing the new Ori really took away from the series, as there wasn't much originality in how they were used. I am looking forward to seeing Morena Baccarin on Friday, but in my mind that has been the only highlight of the last two seasons (and the few good laughs I got from 200).
In general, all good things should come to an end (especially with an episode entitled "All Good Things...") and it actually isn't that uncommon to end a series at its height.
I'm a long time SG-1 fan, but I've had my fingres crossed that they'd end the show for the past few seasons now, ever since Don Davis (General Hammond) left and they started up atlantis. Recent episodes haven't been up to par, and have weakened the canon of the series overall. We all love Firefly, as it was short and sweet. Six or seven seasons of SG-1 were gold, but it is time to hang up the hat.
I guess Sci-Fi needs more space for shitty B monster movies, fantasty crap and "wrasslin'"...
Explain that one to me please? They cancel things like Farscape and SG-1 but put the ECW on there??
We should probably start calling it the B-Channel. B for Bad.
Oh well. If they keep canceling shows I'll be able to lower my DirecTV bill by going to the basic package that doesn't have them on it. If one of their shows turns out to be good enough to escape their massive suckage it'll show up on some other channel or DVDs.
ECW was forced on SciFi by NBC who now owns SciFI (ok technically NBC-Universal) WWE (who owns ECW) is on NBC owned USA network and when WWE wanted to bring back ECW NBC wanted to air it and shoved it on SciFi. Neither wrestling fans or SciFi fans can understand the logic of that.
Then you never understood what stargate was. It was always stupid rehashes, but done with enough intelligence and wit that it made fun of the stupid rehashes. You can't run a sci-fi series for 200 episodes without doing stupid rehashes, so you'd better not take yourself too seriously and paint yourself into a corner you can't get out of. One of my favorite lines was when Sam says, "You know what their weakness turned out to be? Water. I mean, if that's true, why go to all the trouble to invade a planet that's two-thirds water?" C'mon, we were all thinking it...
At any rate, they've faired far better than the Simpsons, which didn't even have the good sense to step aside when it spawned a truely great comedy.
They add more the show, bring in three new exceptional talents (Ben, Beau and Claudia), and I finally get my wife to enjoy SciFi so it is something we can watch together, and they cancel the show.
I had thought the last year.5 had introduced some new blood and ideas into the show, after I quit watching it in Season 7. Surely I can't be the only one who thinks the show had taken a turn for the better, fresher, while still being true to the original concept.
Great series, but clearly showing its age and suffering from 'we need to keep inventing more überenemies' syndrome. I shall look forward to seeing how they bow out. Personally, I think it is about time that they found an enemy capable of destroying the earth which actually does it. Might not please some fans, but would make great television.
Ah well. I suppose this is a blessing in disguise though as it means:
1) We'll get to see the Ori beaten (hopefully, according to gateworld.net the last few episodes aren't set in stone yet).
2) At the end of Episode 200 Martin Lloyd announces to the 10-season cast of Wormhole X-treme that "the movie's back on!". I like to think this extends back to that Stargate SG-1 movie [gateworld.net], but I guess we'll have to wait and see. Now that the series is over there's more hope for it, at least according to gateworld...
I wonder how long the SG-1 writers/producers etc knew the 10th season would be the last. Episode 200 makes a BIT more sense if you realize "hey, they knew they would never have another chance to pull stuff like this again".
Exec 1: "Now that we have Atlantis, we can cancel SG1!" Exec 2: "Oh, I couldn't bear to do that! I don't want to make Richard Dean Anderson cry again." Exec 1: "Well, we could wait until he leaves and then cancel SG1." Exec 2: "No, then he'd get all smug about how SG1 was really 'his' show." Exec 1: "How about replacing him and then canceling the show after a season or two?" Exec 2: "Brilliant! But where could we possibly find an actor willing to work on a loved but inevitably and obviously doomed series?" Exec 1: "That guy from Farscape?" Exec 2: "Perfect!"
by Anonymous Coward
on Tuesday August 22 2006, @08:32AM (#15954860)
Please send Claudia "Vala" Black to Atlantis in the last scene, then make her NOT all comic relief (since you already have McKay, m'kay?), but more kick'ass, like we remember her from her introduction into the galaxy.
Okay, let me say it up front: Stargate SG-1 isn't a great show. In fact, most of the time I'd be hard-pressed to say it's even a good show. But I'm sad to see it go, and in retrospect here are a couple of notes:
1. Did anyone else pick this part up?
"Stargate SG-1," based on the 1994 movie starring Kurt Russell and James Spader, spent its first five years on Showtime -- which annoyed the show's producers by demanding full-frontal nudity -- before migrating to Sci Fi.
I mean, don't get me wrong, Amanda Tapping is cute as a button, and Claudia Black (who hasn't been with the cast that long), rrowl. But I was really shocked to hear this. There are so many producers and directors out there who want to push the boundaries - is it too much to ask that those who want to make a more conventional show not be forced to throw in some gratuitous nude scenes? There wasn't even anything like that in the original movie.
2. SG-1 is probably at its best when the cast & crew isn't taking itself too seriously. And with that in mind, let me tell you that if you missed the 200th episode... well, it's a shame. It was a bit uneven, but it was packed with in-jokes for the kind of people who like not only the show, but sci-fi in general, and even things "vaguely related" to sci-fi. (Veiled Firefly/Serenity references? Check. Not so veiled Star Trek, Farscape, and Team America: World Police references? Check.)
Anyhoo, if you have the chance, catch the 200th episode as a rerun. You'll be glad you did.
I don't remember seeing anything particularly naughty, but courtesy of the Hollywood Reporter [hollywoodreporter.com]...
Anderson's humor served him well during the show's first season, which even Wright and executive producer Robert Cooper, who came onboard as a writer, admit got off to a shaky start. There were rocky story lines, and there was cringe-worthy dialogue. And there was a creative argument with Showtime.
Wright still bristles at remembering how the channel wanted full-frontal nudity. "People said, 'It's Showtime sci-fi
I can only recall one time where there was full frontal nudity - in the pilot episode, where daniel's woman gets turned into a snakehead. This was on the season 1 DVD
Don't count Stargate SG-1 out just yet. Though SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running series (story), the show's producers are hard at work looking for a new outlet for the story to continue, executive producer Robert C. Cooper told GateWorld exclusively.
"As far as the future I can't comment yet because nothing has been confirmed," Cooper said. "What we want to emphasize is that the franchise is not dying. SG-1 will go on in some way. We're just not ready to announce how."
A formal announcement from the studio and the network is expected later this week.
Cooper also emphasizes that, though emotions are running high among Stargate fans who have just learned the news, it is important to keep the show's ratings strong throughout the remainder of its run on SCI FI. "What's most important is that fans don't take out their frustration with SCI FI by not watching," he said. "In fact, what they need to do is watch both SG-1 and Atlantis LIVE and make sure the ratings stay strong.
"That helps prove to other outlets that might be interested in SG-1 that the show is still as strong as we think it is."
Could Stargate SG-1 find its way to yet another network in 2007? Or might the SG-1 team be headed for a TV movie, mini-series, direct-to-video feature... or the big screen? Stay with GateWorld for the latest developments.
Starting in Season 8, SG-1 really started to go downhill, but I really felt like they were starting to put it back together this season and I was really starting to enjoy it again. When Browder first came onboard, I really felt like that was the end, but I've started liking him and I think the show has really returned to the kind of stories that make it great.
Whether it continues or not, it has been an excellent series and will, for a while at least, have its place as, I believe, the second longest consecutive running sci-fi series in history. It's going to be hard for anyone to beat the original Dr. Who's 26 consecutive seasons, and obviously that isn't going to happen soon. I was kind of hoping SG-1 might give it a run for its money, though.
The creators, writers, and actors who have been involved, old and new, all deserve congratulations for really fine work.
Why dont they just get it over and done drop BSG and rename themselves SpikeTV2. For only being a short time after the media declared Science Fiction was going mainstream why is there so little of it? Now instead of SG1, Firefly and Farscape we get Wrestling and that who wants to dress up like a tard and pretend your a superhero show. Oh well only another year or so to wait until the new Star Wars series brings on a wealth of copycats, clones and wannabees but by that time I expect that the SciFi channel wont exist anyway.
I really like the show. I'd watched it sporadically whenever I saw it was on for several years, but just before season 7, I started torrenting the previous episodes, and watched them all in sequence. The first two seasons were alright, and it started picking up new and interesting story arcs in seasons 3 through 5. Six felt a little rehashed, and seven picked up with Anubis. Eight is where it legitimately should have ended, with the destruction of Anubis and the ending of virtually every side plot.
With that said, season 9 actually surprised me with how well they managed to do, even with Richard Dean Anderson leaving, Don Davis being gone, and Amanda Tapping out of commission for a few months. Ben, Beau, and Claudia didn't feel right at first, but I gradually came to like the direction the show took; and at least there's always still Daniel and Teal'c. Plus, the Ori have been a pretty damned interesting new enemy. However, I'm glad they're cancelling the show. I'd rather them finish the Ori story reasonably quickly and end the show on a moderately high note (probably not as high as season 8, but high nonetheless) rather than dragging it on and on. While it's commendable how they've handled the transition to the new cast, it's not something that can be kept up indefinitely.
This may have been mentioned before, but there's been some talk in interviews and whatnot that Shanks might leave SG-1 anyway to join the Atlantis cast (where, logically, he belongs anyway). Jackson is my favorite, and this would at least give me some hope for Atlantis.
IMHO, the first seven seasons of SG-1 are worth it, particularly the first four. Once you've gotten through one, though, you can decide about the rest yourself.:) Eight was the season where Richard Dean Anderson had a reduced presence. Season nine and this one are mostly horrible.
Atlantis started off a little weak it's first season, but it was very good by the end of it. The second season wasn't quite as good, but I think the currently airing third season is decent.
And, for comparison, I, too, am a huge Firefly fan. I would say that my favorite Sci-fi channel show, though, is Battlestar Galactica, and there should be enough time to catch up before Season Three starts in October. If there isn't, I've heard that they are doing a one hour summary show sometime.
"What will happen to siler?"
More importantly, what will happen to Walter!? I mean, the poor guy had to give Beau Bridges $100 CDN just to get into the 200th episode.
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...and for all who didn't get the joke:
Soylent SG-1 is made out of canceled shows!!
(Other) canceled shows I tell you!!
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By the way, if anyone from the staff, crew or cast reads this: Thanks for ten wonderful years.
Killing the Goose that lays the golden egg (Score:3, Insightful)
All they have left to hold dedicated viewers is Battlestar Galactica.
What else is there to watch on that network now?
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Why, ECW, of course!
(cue flames)
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You know you can have a life on friday night and still watch your geek shows. There are two devices that let you do this by recording the shows so you can watch them later.
One of them is called a V-C-R and you can pick one up at a flea market for a few bucks. They first got popular back in the '70 when people relized they could watch porn at home. Or if they had a camera they could make their own porn. (I wouldn't recommend the home made to anyone though. Its usually just 5 mins of some dude poorly focues bare ass bouncing.) It works by letting you record the show you want to watch on a very fragle tape like substance in pour quality.
The other is called a D-V-R. It works pretty much the same way as a VCR but instead of tape, it uses an expensive and fragle highly spinning disk of death. One of the best things about a dvr is after a while it will start suggesting shows for you to watch. You might find that it has better taste in TV than you do. I know mine does.
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My other problem is that eventually you end up at a point where some genius with access to the script decides to, for example, destroy a sun in an easily repeatable way, and then for the rest of the series, blowing up a sun is a solution for every problem but has to be ignored. It is short sighted and every writer should read their script and look for these obvious and completely avoidable future plot holes.
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Great idea! Let's rally the troops! Online petitions to save cancelled sci-fi TV shows have worked so well in the past.
BTW, anyone have torrents for last week's episodes of Farscape and Enterprise?
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This is one thing I never understood. Why do advanced races no longer need clothing in out shows? Would that mean people in nudist camps are onto something?
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Pockets.
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In general, all good things should come to an end (especially with an episode entitled "All Good Things...") and it actually isn't that uncommon to end a series at its height.
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At least MGM is planning on continuing the series, somewhere else.
I guess Sci-Fi needs more space for shitty B monster movies, fantasty crap and "wrasslin'"...
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Explain that one to me please? They cancel things like Farscape and SG-1 but put the ECW on there??
We should probably start calling it the B-Channel. B for Bad.
Oh well. If they keep canceling shows I'll be able to lower my DirecTV bill by going to the basic package that doesn't have them on it. If one of their shows turns out to be good enough to escape their massive suckage it'll show up on some other channel or DVDs.
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At any rate, they've faired far better than the Simpsons, which didn't even have the good sense to step aside when it spawned a truely great comedy.
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I had thought the last year.5 had introduced some new blood and ideas into the show, after I quit watching it in Season 7. Surely I can't be the only one who thinks the show had taken a turn for the better, fresher, while still being true to the original concept.
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Ah well. I suppose this is a blessing in disguise though as it means:
1) We'll get to see the Ori beaten (hopefully, according to gateworld.net the last few episodes aren't set in stone yet).
2) At the end of Episode 200 Martin Lloyd announces to the 10-season cast of Wormhole X-treme that "the movie's back on!". I like to think this extends back to that Stargate SG-1 movie [gateworld.net], but I guess we'll have to wait and see. Now that the series is over there's more hope for it, at least according to gateworld...
I wonder how long the SG-1 writers/producers etc knew the 10th season would be the last. Episode 200 makes a BIT more sense if you realize "hey, they knew they would never have another chance to pull stuff like this again".
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SG-1 was to be killed after Jack left
Now Again.
But true they now have Farscape people, so the death should be quick!
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Exec 1: "Now that we have Atlantis, we can cancel SG1!"
Exec 2: "Oh, I couldn't bear to do that! I don't want to make Richard Dean Anderson cry again."
Exec 1: "Well, we could wait until he leaves and then cancel SG1."
Exec 2: "No, then he'd get all smug about how SG1 was really 'his' show."
Exec 1: "How about replacing him and then canceling the show after a season or two?"
Exec 2: "Brilliant! But where could we possibly find an actor willing to work on a loved but inevitably and obviously doomed series?"
Exec 1: "That guy from Farscape?"
Exec 2: "Perfect!"
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1. Did anyone else pick this part up?
I mean, don't get me wrong, Amanda Tapping is cute as a button, and Claudia Black (who hasn't been with the cast that long), rrowl. But I was really shocked to hear this. There are so many producers and directors out there who want to push the boundaries - is it too much to ask that those who want to make a more conventional show not be forced to throw in some gratuitous nude scenes? There wasn't even anything like that in the original movie.
2. SG-1 is probably at its best when the cast & crew isn't taking itself too seriously. And with that in mind, let me tell you that if you missed the 200th episode... well, it's a shame. It was a bit uneven, but it was packed with in-jokes for the kind of people who like not only the show, but sci-fi in general, and even things "vaguely related" to sci-fi. (Veiled Firefly/Serenity references? Check. Not so veiled Star Trek, Farscape, and Team America: World Police references? Check.)
Anyhoo, if you have the chance, catch the 200th episode as a rerun. You'll be glad you did.
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Cooper: SG-1 will go on
Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
Don't count Stargate SG-1 out just yet. Though SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running series (story), the show's producers are hard at work looking for a new outlet for the story to continue, executive producer Robert C. Cooper told GateWorld exclusively.
"As far as the future I can't comment yet because nothing has been confirmed," Cooper said. "What we want to emphasize is that the franchise is not dying. SG-1 will go on in some way. We're just not ready to announce how."
A formal announcement from the studio and the network is expected later this week.
Cooper also emphasizes that, though emotions are running high among Stargate fans who have just learned the news, it is important to keep the show's ratings strong throughout the remainder of its run on SCI FI. "What's most important is that fans don't take out their frustration with SCI FI by not watching," he said. "In fact, what they need to do is watch both SG-1 and Atlantis LIVE and make sure the ratings stay strong.
"That helps prove to other outlets that might be interested in SG-1 that the show is still as strong as we think it is."
Could Stargate SG-1 find its way to yet another network in 2007? Or might the SG-1 team be headed for a TV movie, mini-series, direct-to-video feature
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Whether it continues or not, it has been an excellent series and will, for a while at least, have its place as, I believe, the second longest consecutive running sci-fi series in history. It's going to be hard for anyone to beat the original Dr. Who's 26 consecutive seasons, and obviously that isn't going to happen soon. I was kind of hoping SG-1 might give it a run for its money, though.
The creators, writers, and actors who have been involved, old and new, all deserve congratulations for really fine work.
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Would this be the first TV series spinoff from a movie to spin off a movie?
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With that said, season 9 actually surprised me with how well they managed to do, even with Richard Dean Anderson leaving, Don Davis being gone, and Amanda Tapping out of commission for a few months. Ben, Beau, and Claudia didn't feel right at first, but I gradually came to like the direction the show took; and at least there's always still Daniel and Teal'c. Plus, the Ori have been a pretty damned interesting new enemy. However, I'm glad they're cancelling the show. I'd rather them finish the Ori story reasonably quickly and end the show on a moderately high note (probably not as high as season 8, but high nonetheless) rather than dragging it on and on. While it's commendable how they've handled the transition to the new cast, it's not something that can be kept up indefinitely.
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Atlantis started off a little weak it's first season, but it was very good by the end of it. The second season wasn't quite as good, but I think the currently airing third season is decent.
And, for comparison, I, too, am a huge Firefly fan. I would say that my favorite Sci-fi channel show, though, is Battlestar Galactica, and there should be enough time to catch up before Season Three starts in October. If there isn't, I've heard that they are doing a one hour summary show sometime.
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