Homeland Security Tracks Information of Travelers 338
feuerfalke writes "Homeland Security recently disclosed a plan regarding an Automated Targeting System, or ATS, that would generate a 'terrorist risk rating' based on information collected about the traveler. This information would include things such as where they are from, how they paid for tickets, their motor vehicle records, past one-way travel, seating preference and the meals they ordered in-flight. These ratings have now been assigned to millions of international travelers, including Americans, and the ATS is exempt from many provisions of the Privacy Act — one cannot view their rating or the information used to generate it."
Re:Meals Ordered on Flight?? (Score:4, Informative)
Muslims removed from airplane when passengers found praying to be suspicious [startribune.com]
Re:Not trolling but.. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:About Time! (Score:4, Informative)
You mean like this?
Re:Sounds like.... (Score:5, Informative)
The reason for meal choices (Score:1, Informative)
The food someone orders in addition to seat choices and other information can be used in determining the most likely suspect if an aircraft explodes. If someone tries to order a cellulose of some sort such as coffee grinds, a lot of tea, etc, it can be mixed with hydroperoxide to form an explosive compound. It may seem like theres a lot of criterion which are extraneous, but that's only because you don't know what you're talking about. The liquids ban was to prevent similar situation probably based on some sort of intel tipoff. I agree we need to keep a muzzle on these black gloved operations, but please educate yourself first.
Now, in b4 the partyvan comes to take me away for 'providing means or instruction'.
Re:Meals Ordered on Flight?? (Score:3, Informative)
They came aboard - ok
They made a lot of noise - ok
They ordered - unecessary seatbelt extensions - which are heavy metal objects - ok
They stood up and started praying - ok
They sat back down ONE AT EACH EXIT OF THE PLANE - BIG problem
These people were trying to do one of 2 things
-> terrorist attack
-> get themselves removed from the plane so they could call "racist"
You're not going to tell me these people didn't have this coming.
Re:How can anyone think profiling works? (Score:4, Informative)
a. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
b. Michael Smerconish
c. Bob Mould
d. A pregnant Irishwoman named Anne Murphy
The answer is A. She is an Irishwoman best known as the former girlfriend of the Jordanian terrorist Nezar Hindawi. While she was pregnant with his child, Hindawi convinced her to unknowingly take an explosives-laden bag on board an El Al flight. Nezar was born in 1954 and when this was committed, 1986, he was 32 years old.
I agree, there are other people that want to kill people, just get the facts straight.
STFU: 419 Islamic terror attacks since just 8/1/06 (Score:1, Informative)
That's more than THREE MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACKS PER DAY , you jackass. Not per year, not per month. Not even per week. THREE PER FUCKING DAY
(courtesy of http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html [thereligionofpeace.com])
I bet if you really, really work your ass off, you can get the number down below two a day by going after all the events listed below and explaining how they're not all Muslim-inspired terrorism. You might knock it down to maybe only two hundred Muslim terrorist acts in the past four months. Gee, if you put a lot of work at you, you can prove that Muslims worldwide are so peaceful that they only commit two whole terrorist attacks per day.
Yep - you're going to have to work your damn ass off just to prove Muslims are so damn peaceful that they commit only two terror attacks per day, worldwide. Not counting anything going on in Iraq or Afghanistan at all.
Goody for you. We're cheering you on in your quest to prove just how peaceful Muslims really are. After you've done that, why don't you teach yourself just how literally irrational Islamic theology is. And it is, too. Islam is literally irrational. That took hold back around 1200 or 1300, which is why all Muslim contributions to civilization took place before then. Now you know why Islamic societies stopped advancing scientifically around that date, and why their culture is literally stuck in the Dark Ages of women as property.
You ignorant fucking jackass. Only now, you can't claim ignorance any more. Will actual knowledge impact your awareness?
STFU, you moron.
Here's the list. Have fun whittling it down.
11/30/06 Somalia Baidoa 4 5 A botched suicide bombing attempt leaves at least four people dead, not including the bombers.
11/30/06 Thailand Pattani 0 1 A 75-year-old man is beaten in his home and set on fire by Muslim radicals.
11/30/06 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 44-year-old man is murdered by Islamic gunmen.
11/30/06 Thailand Narathiwat 1 1 Thai Islamists gun down a woman in a tea house, severely injuring her daughter as well.
11/28/06 Thailand Yala 2 0 A Buddhist husband and wife are murdered by Islamic gunmen as they return home.
11/27/06 Chechnya Gudermes 1 2 A Russian is killed by Jihad gunmen while traveling in a car.
11/27/06 Pakistan Makeen 1 0 A moderate cleric is assassinated by Taliban supporters, who pin a note to the body.
11/26/06 Thailand Yala 2 0 Islamic militants approach two police officers at a food market and shoot them at point-blank range.
11/26/06 Thailand Narathiwat 1 1 A 46-year-old Buddhist man is shot off the back of a motorcycle while riding with his wife.
11/26/06 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 24-year-old villager is shot to death by Islamic terrorists.
11/26/06 Thailand Pattani 1 1 A Buddhist rubber-tapper is murdered by radical Muslims.
11/25/06 Thailand Yala 1 2 Muslims fire into a Buddhist-owned store, killing the owner and injuring two others.
11/25/06 Thailand Yala 3 0 Three Buddhist pig hunters are shot and hacked to death by Muslim radicals.
11/24/06 Pakistan Sharif Chachar 1 0 A 15-year-old girl is hacked to death with an axe in an honour killing by her father, who suspected her of illicit relations.
11/24/06 Thailand Narithiwat 1 0 Islamists break into a man's home and kill him.
11/24/06 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A school administrator is shot and then burned to deat
Re:Meals Ordered on Flight?? (Score:3, Informative)
Muslims removed from airplane when passengers found praying to be suspicious
The Star Tribune article that you link to is appallingly bad. Practically speaking it is closer to disinformation about the incident and why the Imams were removed from the plane.
How the imams terrorized an airliner [washingtontimes.com]
Marshals decry imams' charges [washtimes.com]
THE FAKING IMAMS [pajamasmedia.com]