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Apple's Smart Phone Depends on OS X Tie-Ins 260

anaesthetica writes "According to AppleInsider, Apple is not only working on a cellphone + mp3 player iPhone, but is working on a second model designed to be a smart phone, highly integrated with Mac OS and .Mac. The smart phone has gone through several iterations, as the notoriously demanding Mr. Jobs ordered the elite team working on the phone to redesign and re-engineer their prototypes. Capabilities are reported to include Front Row interface, syncing contacts and iCal with .Mac, "call ahead", iChat video conferencing integration, WiFi, and a slide-out keyboard. Too good to be true?"
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Apple's Smart Phone Depends on OS X Tie-Ins

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  • by 8127972 ( 73495 ) on Wednesday December 06, 2006 @01:46PM (#17132808)
    .... appears to be taking a page out of the M$ playbook and tying the device tightly to the OS to drive OS X sales. One would hope that he is also smart enough to have the phone be usable to users of Windows & *INX without hopping though hoops to do it.
  • A phone I can plug a usb cable into and drop pictures/sounds/contract directly from my computer.

    A nice easy interface to do this with.

    Stop dollaring us to death when we want a picture or a ring tone that we create.

    If it can have music as well, bonus.

    IT would be neat if it used the same connection as the iPod
  • by e4g4 ( 533831 ) on Wednesday December 06, 2006 @02:03PM (#17133148)
    Fortunately, if you get one of the palm os powered treos (whatever you're opinion is of the Palm OS), it's totally hackable, even on Verizon. I've enabled bluetooth DUN on mine (verizon "locks" you out of that), and naturally, since it's a pda, ringtones are a piece of cake. The only thing I've not yet managed to unlock is the Network settings, so no wifi module for me (yet). At any rate, my Treo 650 has allowed me to be the free-est (as in speech) with my phone of any of the 8 years of Verizon phones I've had.

    Now if they'd only lower the bloody price on their unlimited data plan....
  • by Overzeetop ( 214511 ) on Wednesday December 06, 2006 @02:07PM (#17133238) Journal
    That's interesting about the DUN reactivation. I don't suppose you can do GPS over bluetooth and/or pair multiple devices simulataneously (laptop, headset, gps)?

    I'm not for or against palm, as long as I can sync to something with a calendar and contact list.
  • by Scothoser ( 523461 ) on Wednesday December 06, 2006 @02:09PM (#17133282) Homepage

    This is interesting, considering the Leopard release of iCalendar Server for OS X Server v. 10.5. Granted it talks about .mac integration now, but as long as it can sync with other iCalendar software (iCal Server, Google Calendar, Yahoo Calendar, etc.), the product becomes that much more impressive. That alone will be good news for current Mac users that want to have direct calendar updates without the hassle of syncing their calendar.

    The other thing I liked was the mention of iChat Video Conferencing from the handset to a PC. That's something I have wanted with the Pocket PC for ages, and even various video phones. They have a camera, why couldn't they do video conferencing? With 3G wireless networks and phones that can take advantage of it, the technology is finally in place. That would make the iPhone worth it for me alone.

    I had been trying to get cell-phone free for the past two years, and it looks like Apple is going to make that harder for me with this release.

  • by Animaether ( 411575 ) on Wednesday December 06, 2006 @02:15PM (#17133412) Journal
    You do realize that third party developers can create applications for SmartPhones and PocketPC Phones that would allow a user to sync with a Mac, right? So the question is more.. why aren't third party developers doing this? I highly doubt you can blame Microsoft for that.

    Oh, and just to note...
    http://www.pocketmac.net/ [pocketmac.net]

    You're welcome.
  • by johnpaul191 ( 240105 ) on Wednesday December 06, 2006 @02:30PM (#17133754) Homepage
    i realize i am selling out the DIY ethic here, but......
    those sync methods are sometimes unreliable. it seems to be oddly inconsistent even with the same devices. i have heard this from users i know to be above average with nrrdyness. some have a great time, some have lots of problems.

    i have the Motorola E815 un-smartphone. i have had some luck with bluetooth sync of address book and ical. the problem is that when it doesn't work, the end result is often phone numbers going away or things being erased from my calendar. the kind of thing you not always notice at first. when i lose items it is generally when they are on the phone and not my Mac. my whole reason to sync the address book is so i have a backup in case i lose or upgrade the phone. randomly pruning some numbers kind of defeats that plan.

    i appreciate all the work 3rd party developers are doing, but some stuff is risky. i hate typing this because i feel like it is the argument that M$ uses to bash *nix, but in this case there are so many devices that change so frequently that it generates sync issues (i guess?). i loved using BitPim on my old cell phone to extract pictures, upload graphics and ringtones and backup my phonebook. that never did anything destructive if it wasn't working. that is a darn great app.
  • by javaxjb ( 931766 ) on Wednesday December 06, 2006 @02:31PM (#17133770)
    You're correct. I make a BlueTooth connection to my (Cingular) Motorola RAZR and can drag and drop files between the devices. I downloaded an MP3 edit and take snippets of music to make ring tones (even via iTunes by burning the song(s) to CD, converting to MP3 and back to the phone -- Hello ST:TOS theme). And OS/X iSync recognize the phone and syncs my Calendar and Address Book (I set up a smart list in the address book to sync only those contacts I wanted on the phone).
  • by network23 ( 802733 ) * on Wednesday December 06, 2006 @03:13PM (#17134576) Journal

    Apple will follow their usual model:

    One axis with consumer (think MacBook, iMac, iPod nano)
    One axis with prosumer (think MacBook Pro, MacPro, iPod video)

    In all squares good, better, best
    (Think MacBook White 2x1.83, White 2x2, Black 2x2)
    (Think iPod Shuffle, iPod Nano, iPod Video)

    Same for the phones,

    iPhone small and inexpensive
    iPhone nano/macbook
    iPhone pro

    My guess is that the mid version iPhone (nano/MacBook) will be first to be released and at a premium price (like $400 with no contract). After 4 months the iPhone (pro) will be released at a slightly higher premium price (like $500 with no contract) and the mid version iPhone (nano/MacBook) will be reduced to $250 and "one more thing" the youth low end model iPhone (small and inexpensive) will be released like the Nokia 3-series for $149 with no contract.

    ...of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

    - - -

    http://edu.org [edu.org]
  • by hamsterboy ( 218246 ) on Wednesday December 06, 2006 @07:14PM (#17138578)
    AppleInsider also keeps saying that Apple is working on a Tablet Mac, which presumably is a TabletPC-esque convertible Macbook which uses Ink Services and handwriting recognition.

    I work as a software engineer at Wacom Technologies. If Apple were going to make such a device, they would be using our hardware, and likely some of our software. They have not, so there is likely no such project. AppleInsider is posting items from their wishlist.

    -- Hamster

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