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Hans Reiser to Sell Company 583

DVega writes "Due to increasing legal costs, murder suspect Hans Reiser is seeking to sell his company. His lawyer William DuBois said he is running out of money to pay for his defense. DuBois added, 'This is a unique opportunity for someone to buy the company for pennies on the dollar. We welcome all vultures.' This is a good opportunity to own a filesystem and rename it after your own."
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Hans Reiser to Sell Company

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  • Re:Nice quote (Score:5, Insightful)

    by 13bPower ( 869223 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @01:20AM (#17333938) Homepage Journal
    It's even funnier because he has to sell the company to pay the lawyer.
  • This is sad ... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 22, 2006 @01:20AM (#17333942)
    If he turns out to be innocent, it will be just that much sadder -- he will have lost his wife and be ruined. A justice system that is so where money often plays such a key role in influencing the outcome is a very disfunctional justice system.
  • by bubulubugoth ( 896803 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @01:34AM (#17334014) Homepage
    As a company owner, this thing is so sad. But on the techinical aspect, ReiserFS has better numbers in i/o, read and write that ext3, but many, many times, the way Hans conducts himself, lead to more and more people running away from ReiserFS.

    Novell have just switched from reiser to ex3 at opensuse 10.1 or 10.2, I can't remember well, and this was the last "mayor" distribution supporting it. Any way, his company was loosing value, even more, his company is more like a one man company that a group of people. I doubt Namesys has CMMI, or follows any structured development strategy, so, buying a company whos best product is the sole creation of his owner is a very, very bad move.

    I hope he gets some money for his company.
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 22, 2006 @01:42AM (#17334046)
    actually, I thought the opposite. It's sad that someone may be able to buy his way out of a murder conviction and walk away a free man.
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by tonyr1988 ( 962108 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @01:47AM (#17334066)
    or is USA run by evil lawyers?
    You must be new here.
  • Re:sounds fishy (Score:2, Insightful)

    by MichaelSmith ( 789609 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @02:08AM (#17334150) Homepage Journal
    I'm not sure I'd want to buy a company from someone driving a Honda CRX...

    Out here in the Rest Of the World it is considered one of the first pure Hot Hatches. People race them, you know.

    I thought it was a bit strange when mythbusters needed a small old car to trash and a viewer gave them a Fiat X1/9 which he described as "that piece of euro shit which has been cluttering up my drive way for five years". Where I live people pay big money for that exact car to do up and drive around in. Maybe Americans should just ban foreign cars on the basis of job protection.

  • Re:sounds fishy (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 22, 2006 @02:26AM (#17334222)
    Out here in the Rest Of the World it is considered one of the first pure Hot Hatches. People race them, you know.
    Um, I also live in Europe, and I agree with the grandparent. People also race old busted-up Volvos, that doesn't make them especially valuable, and they do not exactly inspire other people to place trust in their drivers.

    The CRX is a fun old toy but as cars go, it's a piece of shit, in Europe and elsewhere. Get over it. (Posting anon to save my karma from the ricer mods.)
  • by fishbowl ( 7759 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @02:32AM (#17334250)
    Can they actually prosecute a homicide with no body?
    What would happen if he were convicted, and then Ms. Reiser shows up?
    How can you claim someone is guilty of murder before you have declared the
    victim is dead? Or if the victim is dead, has life insurance been collected, for instance?
    I really don't see how you can have "murder" without a body, remains of a body, or some specific claim as to how the body was disposed of.

    On the other hand, I *can* see how you could justify holding such a suspect without bail, sort of.
    He should, at a minimum, explain where the seat from his Honda can be found. Seems like that might clear up a few things. (They locate that seat, find it isn't covered with blood and bone fragments or whatever they expect to find... That sort of thing would be pretty embarrassing to the prosecution, I'd guess.)

    Of course, if I were a betting man, my money would not exactly be riding on Hans' innocence. The car seat bothers me a lot. (The State of California is required to presume his innocence, but I am not, unless I happen to get called on his jury...)
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by powerlinekid ( 442532 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @02:34AM (#17334256)
    My thought exactly...

    Its especially interesting because hes supposed to be a smart guy. You'd think the last thing you want to do is purchase a book about homicide investigations when you think you're the main suspect in a homicide investigation.

    Yeah yeah, maybe he wanted to know how to procede and was honestly curious in a non-sinister way. It still looks extremely suspicious.
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jesboat ( 64736 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @02:46AM (#17334348) Homepage Journal
    It's not sad at all that he should be able to buy his way out of a murder conviction if he's innocent.

    It'll be sad if he buys his way out of the conviction when he's guilty, but we don't know that he's guilty yet.

    It's saddest for you to assume that he's guilty and if he'd need to buy his way out of a murder conviction if he's innocent.
  • by kg4czo ( 516374 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @02:51AM (#17334376)
    Ummm.... It says he needs the money to help pay for his defense. I understand the "what about the children" concern, and I would normally agree with you. The article makes it pretty clear that his current concern is making sure he has a decent lawyer instead of a shit bag public defender that's less inclined to put up a fight. I suppose that if he does get off on a lack of evidence (no body), he would make sure his kids are taken care of, if he can. Child Protective Services would probably fight to keep his kids away from their father under the pretense that he's possibly dangerous.

    Things don't look well for him at this point anyway....
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by The Bungi ( 221687 ) <thebungi@gmail.com> on Friday December 22, 2006 @03:04AM (#17334446) Homepage
    There's a difference between being clever and being smart.
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by rastos1 ( 601318 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @03:13AM (#17334490)
    The point is that "you can afford one" as long as you have any property. You have to spend it all, before you are entitled to ex-offo. When all is said and done, you are left with nothing. Even if you win.
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by asuffield ( 111848 ) <asuffield@suffields.me.uk> on Friday December 22, 2006 @03:14AM (#17334498)
    The really sad part is that if he's found guilty, the system will still be just as broken, but people will think it's fair. Which is why the system remains broken.
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by sentientbrendan ( 316150 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @03:22AM (#17334548)
    >It's sad that someone may be able to buy his way out of a
    >murder conviction and walk away a free man.

    Well, money can't buy you anything more than a fair trial, but lack of money pretty much guarantees that you are screwed, even if the evidence against you is minimal. All that money does, is guarantee that your lawyers are competent, and that you have the resources to dig up evidence on your behalf.

    Now, there are other things you can do to get out of a murder conviction, like be a loved celebrity, or have political power.
  • Funny... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by thrill12 ( 711899 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @03:47AM (#17334686) Journal
    ...I read topics of people having various non-eating related cookbooks in their homes on Slashdot, and each time this is referred to as "innocent reading material" (or something along those lines) rather than a prelude to terrorism - even though the police could view it in that way when someone is arrested on related charges.
    The finding of this book (I'm not talking about other findings) and supposing any connection of this book to the murdering is therefore kind of not-Slashdot like : he could just have been generally interested in murder, perhaps a big CSI fan or something ?
    It's supporting evidence at most.
  • Re:Funny... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Splab ( 574204 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @04:25AM (#17334818)
    And a missing front seat? Perhaps it was raining, and he forgot to close the door and the seat was spoiled - which would explain the soked rug. Lets see a body before we call it murder...
  • Re:Funny... (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 22, 2006 @04:30AM (#17334836)
    ...I read topics of people having various non-eating related cookbooks in their homes on Slashdot, and each time this is referred to as "innocent reading material" (or something along those lines) rather than a prelude to terrorism - even though the police could view it in that way when someone is arrested on related charges.

    You've got it a little confused. The police didn't name him as a suspect because of the books. They didn't even start investigating him because of the books. He already had a motive and a bunch of evidence pointing at him. The books just make it that much more suspicious.

    With the patriot act, the government would be able to search for all the people who had bought the books or checked them out from the library, name all of them as suspects, and then investigate all of them at their leisure.

    It's a pretty big difference, really.

  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by shadowmas ( 697397 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @04:34AM (#17334848)
    True it's sad to see an guilty person walk free.

    But it's sadder to see a innocent person goto prison.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 22, 2006 @04:43AM (#17334886)
    If in order to defend yourself, you have to have a company and even sell it, then for all practical reasons there is no justice for the majority of people. I find this state of affairs troubling, and I was wandering if you could sue "justice". ie, the justice ministry for example.

    GD
  • by haeger ( 85819 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @04:57AM (#17334934)
    How much is it worth without Hans Reiser? He's the lead architect isn't he, the one with all the good ideas. Or is he a part of the deal. If aquitted he'll come work for you and if not you'll provide him with a laptop in his cell?

    .haeger

  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 22, 2006 @05:31AM (#17335106)
    For crying out fucking loud it's LOSE, not LOOSE.
    What is so difficult about this that nobody seems able to use the correct word anymore?
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Fred_A ( 10934 ) <fred@NOspam.fredshome.org> on Friday December 22, 2006 @05:36AM (#17335128) Homepage
    Doesn't he get State funded legal aid like in the UK ?? One cannot fight the state with a bottomless pit of money.
    He certainly can, I think all "western" countries have this kind of disposition in their legal system. However a state appointed lawyer may very well not be very involved in your case, since he likely has a lot of similar ones on his hands for a miserable pay. Not to mention that he can also be incompetent, be someone you don't agree or get along with, etc.
    There are lots of reasons to get a dedicated lawyer. There is however no reason why this should be such an expensive (as in have to sell all your assets and go live under a bridge) proposition.
  • Re:WinFS (Score:2, Insightful)

    by 1karmik1 ( 963790 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @06:26AM (#17335354) Homepage
    I'm OT as hell but.. "opportunity", goddammit!

    Besides the grammar problems.. i use reiser 3.6 as my home partition's filesystem and although i'm not a power user
    (i didn't nor i have investigated how to tweak the filesystem to squeeze the most out of it) i haven't any problem with it.

    I don't think MS would be a good buyer for this technology (and as stated in some other comments, MS tend to prefer *stealing* the technology instead of buying it) both because they already have a fairly decent one (ntfs is _closed source_ but not _bad_) and because its PR like to let people think that they own the technology they sell, they always have and always will (i may be the average ignorant guy but i never heard of the companies that originally developed hyper terminal or MS anti-spyware before MS bought those).

    My 0.2$

  • by MechaStreisand ( 585905 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @06:44AM (#17335422)
    What did she actually do? Can you summarize?
  • Re:sounds fishy (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Alioth ( 221270 ) <no@spam> on Friday December 22, 2006 @06:49AM (#17335440) Journal
    The Fiat X1/9 *is* a piece of shit though, unless you do one hour of maintenance for every hour you get to drive it. They are terribly fragile and unreliable unless you do a great deal of maintenance. Americans are used to cars that are built like tanks and do 300,000 miles needing only oil changes and perhaps a new set of spark plugs every so often.

    While the X1/9 is probably a good car to do up or to own as an enthusiast, it's no good for a daily drive because it's so unreliable. Many European cars built at around that time were also pretty terrible, reliability wise - even if they WERE very stylish and nice to drive. I loved my old Mini - good fun, timeless design - but reliable it was not. It needed constant maintenance. The vast majority of Americans aren't prepared to put up with cars that need constant maintenance.
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by kripkenstein ( 913150 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @06:51AM (#17335444) Homepage
    IANAL, but as far as I know, it does not work both ways. A judge can set aside a guilty verdict that does not conform to law, but he cannot convict a defendant if an acquittal was not according to law.
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by dementedWabbit ( 675528 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @06:51AM (#17335446)
    What I find increasingly grevious is that the police department (and by extension the court system) can - and will - arrest anyone with a hairs breadth of suspicion when under pressure (and often when not). Not only have there been countless cases in the past where the obviously guilty have gotten off scot-free (do I even dare mention OJ?), but there are many cases as well where the innocent have been put behind bars just because the local cops were under pressure to "get someone into the process". Sad point is, in the eyes of the law you're supposed to be "innocent until proven guilty". Bollocks. If that were the case, you would not be behind bars (or on bail) while the trial is taking place. If you're innocent and have any assets you are forced to use your own lawyer - otherwise be faced with the prospect of using the cr*p lawyers in the "state provided" attorney listing (for the most part they are, otherwise they would be in the private sector). IMHO, the state should pay all legal costs if you are found innocent. We're not talking just loss of freedom folks: we're talking loss of home, future employment prospects, respect of the community, often loss of life; with no compensation to make up for it when innocence is proven. And even if you are found innocent, the Media has already branded you as "involved". But hey, "Justice" must be served. Unless you're wealthy. Justice don't apply to you then, unless you've got blood splattered all over your gloves and car (oh wait, not even then)..
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 22, 2006 @09:11AM (#17336062)
    To let a guity man slip is clearly incompetant, but does not violate the rights of any one human being.

    Locking up an innocent man, however, clearly violates the rights of a human being, and therefore is not merely incompetant but outright oppressive.

    There is no comparison between the two, and I can't believe people would actually try to make that comparison. It is a greater tragedy to lock up one innocent man than to let 1000 guilty men slip. When your government locks up innocent men, you are dealing with a much greater force of evil than all the "private" criminals in the world put together. Why? The criminal, although willing to employ coercion against others, is equal to you and me in terms of power: no criminal posesses the special "right" to employ coercion; that is why they are criminals. Government, on the other hand, is founded on that "right" to employ coercion as its means -- clearly, government is the most dangerous force that could possibly exist. (What force could possibly be more dangerous than a special "right" to employ coercion?)
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by LordKronos ( 470910 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @09:12AM (#17336070)
    ...The judge's instructions were very clear.)
    ...
    Google for "jury nullification" if you want more info.


    That's one of those things that's always seemed so obvious to me (even before I learned the term for it), that I don't really know why more people never realized it. The judge deals with the law for a living. On the other hand, as a normal citizen, I'm only familiar with a few laws, and then the rest just comes from my "common sense".

    So, why would it make any sense to bring in a panel full of people who are (likely) LESS educated on matters of law than the judge, and then let THEM be the ones to follow the law to the letter? That makes no sense. In most cases, the judge is the person in the courtroom who is best suited to be the issuing judgements bases solely on the letter of the law.

    So what point does bringing in a jury serve? Well, it could serve either of 3 purposes:
    1) A dog and pony show (which is what the whole 'follow the judges instructions' thing seems like to me)
    2) A chance to get a verdict based on the jury's misunderstanding of law
    3) A chance to get a verdict based on what (a small sampling of) society feels is right.

    Now seriously...which of those 3 seems most likely to be the founding fathers' intent?
  • Re:WinFS (Score:5, Insightful)

    by zerocool^ ( 112121 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @10:22AM (#17336524) Homepage Journal

    Dude, welcome to linux. Windows has One File System(tm) because... it's easier. Linux has 129 filesystems because 129 different people think each one is the best at what it does.

    I love linux, but sometimes too much choice is a bad thing. If linux was a car, there'd be 18 steering wheels and no air conditioning, but you'd be able to change the radio stations from the hubcaps.
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Atzanteol ( 99067 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @10:24AM (#17336540) Homepage

    Now seriously...which of those 3 seems most likely to be the founding fathers' intent?

    None of the above. Seriously. "The jury of your peers" is about keeping a ruling class from passing judgment on the masses. It's one of the last lines of defense against corruption in the legal system.

    Also, the judge explains to the jury the law involved, and the jury is allowed to ask questions about it. The jury is there to decide the truth, not the law.

  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by fotbr ( 855184 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @10:34AM (#17336600) Journal
    Am I the only one that finds the focus on the books he happened to own more than a little disturbing?

    Even if he had a book titled "How to murder your wife and get away with it" it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean he was planning anything, or even thinking about doing anything -- I agree, notes in margins, highlighting/underlining pieces, etc might mean something, but that is different than just having the books.

    This type of thinking is EXACTLY why library staff get pissed about the patriot act allowing law enforcement access to their records of who borrowed what, and when.
  • by ivan256 ( 17499 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @10:34AM (#17336602)
    The key is to find the "dead" person in between times and REALLY knock them off.

    That is ridiculous. Murder is a physical act, and if you murder somebody after you've already been convicted of killing them, clearly the murder that occurred after your trial already ended, it is a different criminal act than what you were originally convicted for. Don't worry though, they'd reverse your prior conviction before throwing you back in jail; even though technically they wouldn't have to.

    You don't get convicted for murder. You get convicted for murder of person x at time y in location z. Making x y and z the same for the 'second' killing is a big job.
  • Re:This is sad ... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by nomadic ( 141991 ) <`nomadicworld' `at' `gmail.com'> on Friday December 22, 2006 @11:41AM (#17337390) Homepage
    Suppose a state congress changes its murder laws so that it is okay for a white person to kill a black person. Should the jury blindly enforce such a law?

    In fact, the main problem with jury nullification is that for a good chunk of our nation's history, the opposite of the above situation was true, especially in the deep south. The law said it's not ok for anyone to kill anyone else; white juries wouldn't convict white killers of black people, however.
  • Re:WinFS (Score:3, Insightful)

    by zerocool^ ( 112121 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @12:30PM (#17338110) Homepage Journal
    I'm not saying windows is smart having a one size fits all OS. I'm saying that their file system is "good enough" for most of the things windows does. Not to mention, it makes it hella easy to work on windows machines when you're pulling and swapping hard drives. They're phasing out the old crappy (fat), standardizing on the current (ntfs), and (in theory) looking forward (winFS).

    Yes, sometimes file system types can make a performance difference. Using ReiserFS is going to help out when you're doing stuff with lots of little files, yes. How much? I dunno. Will most people be happy with ext3? Yes, absolutely. ext3 will do pretty much everything you need it to do. However, when you choose a filesystem type in the fdisk menu on linux, there are literally this many:

    Command (m for help): l
     
      0 Empty 1e Hidden W95 FAT1 80 Old Minix be Solaris boot
      1 FAT12 24 NEC DOS 81 Minix / old Lin bf Solaris
      2 XENIX root 39 Plan 9 82 Linux swap / So c1 DRDOS/sec (FAT-
      3 XENIX usr 3c PartitionMagic 83 Linux c4 DRDOS/sec (FAT-
      4 FAT16 <32M 40 Venix 80286 84 OS/2 hidden C: c6 DRDOS/sec (FAT-
      5 Extended 41 PPC PReP Boot 85 Linux extended c7 Syrinx
      6 FAT16 42 SFS 86 NTFS volume set da Non-FS data
      7 HPFS/NTFS 4d QNX4.x 87 NTFS volume set db CP/M / CTOS / .
      8 AIX 4e QNX4.x 2nd part 88 Linux plaintext de Dell Utility
      9 AIX bootable 4f QNX4.x 3rd part 8e Linux LVM df BootIt
      a OS/2 Boot Manag 50 OnTrack DM 93 Amoeba e1 DOS access
      b W95 FAT32 51 OnTrack DM6 Aux 94 Amoeba BBT e3 DOS R/O
      c W95 FAT32 (LBA) 52 CP/M 9f BSD/OS e4 SpeedStor
      e W95 FAT16 (LBA) 53 OnTrack DM6 Aux a0 IBM Thinkpad hi eb BeOS fs
      f W95 Ext'd (LBA) 54 OnTrackDM6 a5 FreeBSD ee EFI GPT
    10 OPUS 55 EZ-Drive a6 OpenBSD ef EFI (FAT-12/16/
    11 Hidden FAT12 56 Golden Bow a7 NeXTSTEP f0 Linux/PA-RISC b
    12 Compaq diagnost 5c Priam Edisk a8 Darwin UFS f1 SpeedStor
    14 Hidden FAT16 <3 61 SpeedStor a9 NetBSD f4 SpeedStor
    16 Hidden FAT16 63 GNU HURD or Sys ab Darwin boot f2 DOS secondary
    17 Hidden HPFS/NTF 64 Novell Netware b7 BSDI fs fd Linux raid auto
    18 AST SmartSleep 65 Novell Netware b8 BSDI swap fe LANstep
    1b Hidden W95 FAT3 70 DiskSecure Mult bb Boot Wizard hid ff BBT
    1c Hidden W95 FAT3 75 PC/IX
    I'm not saying there aren't holes in my arguement, but... it's hard to deny that's a crapoload of filesystem types. Now, it's not Linux's fault (or GNU or whoever wrote fdisk) that there are that many options.

    But this is a symptom of a greater problem in Linux - it's desire to be every thing to every one. And not in a "get on my bandwagon or get the fuck out" type scenario, like you have with Windows - but a location for everyone to dump any pet project that they have ever made, and eventually we have 43 window managers, 2 Xservers, 18 mail dameons, 97 web browsers, 9 different sets of wireless networking tools (none of which work for more than 3 chipsets), 812 shells, 14 IM clients, 84 Mp3 players, and four office suites. Boy, if you like choice, linux is the place to be. But, some of us find it a bit overwhelming at times (mainly, when "some of us" have to do desktop support for linux).

    I can't help but wonder if all the people who are working on different, paralell projects pooled their efforts where Linux would be today.

    And as I've been saying for 4 or 5 years now on Slashdot, all I ever wanted out of linux was a universal clipboard with a universal API for cutting and pasting. We now have windows that wobble with hardware accelerated graphics (FC6). Great. I'd like to be able to cut and paste.

    ~Wx
  • Re:WinFS (Score:2, Insightful)

    by concept10 ( 877921 ) on Friday December 22, 2006 @12:35PM (#17338184) Homepage
    I love your comment. It's small and really to the point of the state of Linux and the community in general. I personally enjoy the GNU/Linux ecosystem but there are too many choices sometimes. It seems as if the trend is to start a new project/distro/fork whenever someone believes that they could make something better, faster, slimmer, etc... Don't get me wrong, I love the amount of choices but I would rather see more consolidation of efforts. Instead of making a new distro with minor changes/patches, contribute to a major one... etc... Sometimes it's as we are going in circles.

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