iTunes Uncovers Musical Hoax

iTunes Uncovers Musical Hoax 311

Posted by kdawson on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @03:59PM from the man-who-mistook-his-wife-for-a-Hatto dept.

holy_calamity writes "The reliance by iTunes on the CDDB has burst open a musical fraud in the usually staid world of classical piano. Albums by the much vaunted British pianist Joyce Hatto, who died in June 2006, are identified by the iTunes player as belonging to other performers. A more scientific analysis by an audio remastering firm has found that none of Hatto's works appear to be hers. Her husband, who produced all her albums, says he 'cannot explain' the similarities."

iTunes Uncovers Musical Hoax

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What is that? (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:01PM (#18086428)

That is the sound of the world's smallest violin playing.

They may be .... (Score:5, Funny)

by ehaggis ( 879721 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:05PM (#18086482) Homepage Journal

...Hayden other recordings. I say, Bach to the source to find out what is going on! I won't be Chopin at I-Tunes anymore.

Re:Acronyms (Score:5, Funny)

by Pojut ( 1027544 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:06PM (#18086500) Homepage

...this is /.

The majority understand what CDDB is...if nothing else, you should at least be able to figure out what it STANDS for. Just to help you out, I'll break it down for you:

CD. DB.

Need further assistance?

Bill says (Score:2, Funny)

by Jah-Wren Ryel ( 80510 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:08PM (#18086530)

I guess that wasn't a Hatto(ri) Hanzo piece after all!

Who would've thought... (Score:5, Funny)

by danpsmith ( 922127 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:09PM (#18086552)

...that there would be a Milli Vanilli [wikipedia.org] in the classical world.

How convenient! (Score:5, Funny)

by Rob T Firefly ( 844560 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:14PM (#18086632) Homepage Journal

I love when things like this come out after the guilty party has passed on. Holding up a scam with your very last breath takes dedication, and the mental image of Ms Hatto laughing pleasantly and flipping sweary fingwer gestures from the great beyond comforts me immensely.

Re:They may be .... (Score:5, Funny)

by WidescreenFreak ( 830043 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:19PM (#18086688) Homepage Journal

Urgh! Too many classical composer puns for anyone to Handel. We ought to throw any classical pun abusers into jail with one person Percell until they Telemann (and women) that they're sorry.

Okay, it wasn't that great, but you already took the obvious ones. It was very Strauss-ful coming up with new ones.

Re:Acronyms (Score:4, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:20PM (#18086706)

you should at least be able to figure out what it STANDS for

Yeah? But what does "STANDS" mean? :-p

Re:They may be .... (Score:5, Funny)

by sacrilicious ( 316896 ) writes: <qbgfynfu.opt@recursor.net> on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:21PM (#18086720) Homepage

They may be Hayden other recordings. I say, Bach to the source to find out what is going on! I won't be Chopin at I-Tunes anymore.
Now just a minuet, don't be hasty.

Metamusic (Score:5, Funny)

by mattpointblank ( 936343 ) writes: <mattpointblank@gma[ ]com ['il.' in gap]> on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:24PM (#18086768) Homepage

"iTunes Uncovers Musical Hoax"

It's become self-aware!!

The husband should just call it fan fiction... (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:26PM (#18086796)

Frankly, I blame the RIAA for going after her remixes. Talk about a vendetta. A proper Slashdot comment would rattle on about how these poor folks are suing a dead woman.

Really, the two of them were the biggest fans of the artists whose work they fair-used. They did this as an homage. Yeah. That's the ticket.

Re:They may be .... (Score:5, Funny)

by heroofhyr ( 777687 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:26PM (#18086802)

Okay, it wasn't that great, but you already took the obvious ones. It was very Strauss-ful coming up with new ones.
Nonsense. If you try hard you can come up with a pretty big Liszt. Now get Bizet.

Re:They may be .... (Score:5, Funny)

by ettlz ( 639203 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:26PM (#18086806) Journal

Oi! Quit Messiaen about with all those names!

Re:Acronyms (Score:5, Funny)

by snarlydwarf ( 532865 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:33PM (#18086910) Homepage

STANDS: Some Theoretical Acronym Not Described Sufficiently?

Re:I'm a classical musician... (Score:5, Funny)

by Quiet_Desperation ( 858215 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:35PM (#18086946)

but then again, there are a ton of pianists out there.
Wait... so there are only between 10 and 20 pianists out there?

More Acronyms (Score:5, Funny)

by MrSquishy ( 916581 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:36PM (#18086950)

How are we supposed to RTFA when we dont know what "RTFA" stands for?

Re:They may be .... (Score:5, Funny)

by Golias ( 176380 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:37PM (#18086982)

This Liszt of composer puns is becoming a Verdi tiresome Paine, and causing a lot of Strauss. Ives got a Mahler of a headache now. My nerves are starting to un-Ravel, to be perfectly Franck. Now knock that Schmidt Orff! Have you no Morales???

Re:live performances? (Score:5, Funny)

by gardyloo ( 512791 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:40PM (#18087042)

but didn't she play publicly? Be kinda hard to fake that :)

Meh. We're slashdotters. How the hell do WE know if a woman is faking something?

Re:this sort of abuse... (Score:5, Funny)

by Hijacked Public ( 999535 ) * writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:40PM (#18087056)

I think it would be hilarious if Audacity was used to do this rather than Pro Tools or the like.

Re:They may be .... (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:41PM (#18087060)

Fugue off!

Re:What is that? (Score:5, Funny)

by madsheep ( 984404 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:43PM (#18087084) Homepage

Unfortunately you tried to pass that violin playing as being original. CDDB has identified your music as being from Giovanni Battista Viotti. Nice try.

She's in trouble now, the RIAA are after her (Score:5, Funny)

by gurps_npc ( 621217 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:46PM (#18087138) Homepage

As she appears to have copied and sold music without the proper licenses, the RIAA will be hunting here down. Merely being Dead will not stop the RIAA from making your existence a living hell.

Re:Blind music critics? (Score:5, Funny)

by gardyloo ( 512791 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:49PM (#18087168)

[...]when you had no expectation that there even was a dupe.

This is slashdot. We're trained to be alert to those all the time.

Re:Who would've thought... (Score:4, Funny)

by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:54PM (#18087246)

I'd think a better "Milli Vanilli" pairing with the Nilla wafers would be white chocolate, which contains no actual cocoa solids.

Re:She's in trouble now, the RIAA are after her (Score:2, Funny)

by Elvis Parsley ( 939954 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @04:58PM (#18087310)

I'm reasonably certain that being dead will stop your existence from being a living anything.

Re:She's in trouble now, the RIAA are after her (Score:3, Funny)

by Intron ( 870560 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @05:14PM (#18087580)

Making her what? Ungreatful Dead?

Re:I'm a classical musician... (Score:2, Funny)

by KDR_11k ( 778916 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @05:15PM (#18087588)

Metric or imperial pianists?

Re:They may be .... (Score:5, Funny)

by dpiven ( 518007 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @05:16PM (#18087626) Homepage

I'd chime in with a few, but my musical pun composer is baroquen.

Re:How convenient! (Score:3, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @05:20PM (#18087702)

That's what he gets for marrying a dead lady!

Re:live performances? (Score:5, Funny)

by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes: <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @05:21PM (#18087728) Homepage Journal

Meh. We're slashdotters. How the hell do WE know if a woman is faking something?

Answer: if she's interacting with us with anything other than annoyance and/or disgust?

Re:They may be .... (Score:5, Funny)

by dgatwood ( 11270 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @05:32PM (#18087906) Homepage Journal

That's because music today is kind of weak. Why isn't Rachmaninoff to admit that classical is better?

Re:The husband should just call it fan fiction... (Score:3, Funny)

by Kadin2048 ( 468275 ) writes: <.ten.yxox. .ta. .nidak.todhsals.> on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @05:39PM (#18088024) Homepage Journal

Really, the two of them were the biggest fans of the artists whose work they fair-used. They did this as an homage. Yeah. That's the ticket.

If only they had stuck to Open Source Classical Music.

Re:Glenn Gould is still safe (Score:5, Funny)

by radtea ( 464814 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @05:44PM (#18088100)

Not much chance getting away with calling a Glenn Gould recording your own.

You can if you use the Glenn Gould De-Vocalizer 2000! [unpronounceable.com] I mean, listen to the difference in this after-and-before recording! [unpronounceable.com]

Re:They may be .... (Score:3, Funny)

by QRDeNameland ( 873957 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @05:47PM (#18088132)

Yeah, this is Slashdot...you should be discussing things like FOSS [wikipedia.org] or Dvorak [wikipedia.org] keyboards.

Re:live performances? (Score:5, Funny)

by naoursla ( 99850 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @05:49PM (#18088166) Homepage Journal

#2 is very easy to fill in in this case.

1. Produce fraudulent recordings
2. Sell the fraudulent recordings
3. Profit!

Re:Blind music critics? (Score:3, Funny)

by Trailer Trash ( 60756 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @05:51PM (#18088194) Homepage

According to the article it's because they made subtle variations to the pieces, including changing the tempo by less than 1% (so they wouldn't sync up), changing the balance (so the center was different), and changing the equalizer (so it sounded like a different piano).

At some point, it would be easier to just play the piano.

Re:They may be .... (Score:3, Funny)

by sconeu ( 64226 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @06:04PM (#18088370) Homepage Journal

Stop that and get Bach to work! Or else I will set you up the Brahms!

Re:Blind music critics? (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @06:21PM (#18088666)

[...]when you had no expectation that there even was a dupe.

This is slashdot. We're trained to be alert to those all the time.

Re:Who would've thought... (Score:3, Funny)

by Danse ( 1026 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @07:44PM (#18089686)

Perhaps also using a carob bean based fudge?

I see what you're getting at, but really, they will probably want the stuff to actually sell :)

Re:They may be .... (Score:2, Funny)

by harp2812 ( 891875 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @08:06PM (#18089904)

Mastodon???? Come on; those guys belong in a museum, for crissake.

I'm not familiar with them... are they some sort of hair band?

Re:Blind music critics? (Score:3, Funny)

by fbjon ( 692006 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @08:34PM (#18090290) Homepage Journal

Yes, piano is much easier than violin.

Disclaimer: I'm a violinist. </flamebait>

Re:They may be .... (Score:3, Funny)

by denmarkw00t ( 892627 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @10:23PM (#18091408) Homepage Journal

Whats Vivaldis puns?

Woo - craptacular :D

All your bass... (Score:2, Funny)

by dwhite21787 ( 166571 ) writes: on Tuesday February 20, 2007 @10:23PM (#18091414) Homepage

ah, it's not worth the treble.

Re:They may be .... (Score:2, Funny)

by yusing ( 216625 ) writes: on Wednesday February 21, 2007 @07:16AM (#18094198) Journal

Urrrgh! You could probably earn a higher Salieri if you weren't such a pun-Mahler. I think you should Offenbach off when you get such ideas if you're Abel. You sure ain't no Saint-Saens as you got such taste in jokes; your mind starting to un-Ravel from de Strauss. Pride goeth before De Falla you know.

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What is that? (Score:5, Funny)

They may be .... (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Acronyms (Score:5, Funny)

Bill says (Score:2, Funny)

Who would've thought... (Score:5, Funny)

How convenient! (Score:5, Funny)

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Metamusic (Score:5, Funny)

The husband should just call it fan fiction... (Score:5, Funny)

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Re:Acronyms (Score:5, Funny)

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More Acronyms (Score:5, Funny)

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Re:live performances? (Score:5, Funny)

Re:this sort of abuse... (Score:5, Funny)

Re:They may be .... (Score:5, Funny)

Re:What is that? (Score:5, Funny)

She's in trouble now, the RIAA are after her (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Blind music critics? (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Who would've thought... (Score:4, Funny)

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Re:Glenn Gould is still safe (Score:5, Funny)

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All your bass... (Score:2, Funny)

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