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Jack Valenti, Dead at 85 650

saforrest writes "Jack Valenti, a man whose influence in both Washington and Hollywood was profound, died today at age 85. He first became famous as special assistant to Lyndon Johnson: he can even be seen in the famous photo aboard Air Force One. In 1966, he quit this job to become president of the MPAA, from 1966 to 2004."
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Jack Valenti, Dead at 85

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  • Corrected link (Score:2, Interesting)

    by JemVai777 ( 411658 ) on Thursday April 26, 2007 @10:56PM (#18895273)
  • Re:Frosty piss... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by psaunders ( 1069392 ) on Thursday April 26, 2007 @11:15PM (#18895473)
    That's funny, even with comment filtering set to level 5, this one still gets through...and +5 informative, no less. Informative how? Maybe it's a glitch in the /. mod system...
  • Re:Frosty piss... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by ArcherB ( 796902 ) * on Thursday April 26, 2007 @11:27PM (#18895587) Journal
    That's funny, even with comment filtering set to level 5, this one still gets through...and +5 informative, no less. Informative how? Maybe it's a glitch in the /. mod system...

    Careful! My karma was "excellent" two days ago. Then I commented on an Anonymous Coward post stating little more than "Bush. Worst. President. Ever." on a story that wasn't even about Bush getting modded "+5 Insightful." By the end of the day, my Karma was "Terrible". Read my sig for opinion of opinionated Mods. Read my Journal for SlashDot rules. Look at my Karma to see how well they are followed.

    Just my experience. May the mods have mercy on me.
  • C'mon-sliders. (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 26, 2007 @11:33PM (#18895651)
    "Sometimes /. comments manage to give me the creeps..."

    Creeps me out too, but not for the same reason it does you. Take a note of all the "ding dong" comments and add up the moderation then think "there's more like them out there". A lot are in postions of trust of some kind of resource (paperclips?), or they're going to grow up and become adults in the same position. Worried? Some are going or already have children and they're going to be taught the same ways as their parents. Worried more? Throw in a society that has thrown away any boundaries because they all come from some "magic" guy and it gets worse. Slashdot is just the tip of a very large iceberg and it's not melting.
  • Re:I disagree (Score:1, Interesting)

    by LazloTheDog ( 39236 ) on Thursday April 26, 2007 @11:40PM (#18895705)
    The man lived a very interesting life that went far beyond the narrow focused, knee jerk scope of most Slashdoters. An appraisal of that life can be found at:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/movies/27valenti .html?hp/ [nytimes.com]

    JM

  • Re:C'mon (Score:2, Interesting)

    by noidentity ( 188756 ) on Thursday April 26, 2007 @11:46PM (#18895743)
    There's no way any member of Slashdot could do what he's done. We might be able to act like him, but that's just acting. Posting a message expressing frustration with the damage this guy has caused is constructive and not damaging to anyone's rights.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 26, 2007 @11:53PM (#18895835)
    Happy World Intellectual Property Day [wikipedia.org]! April 26th, a day to remember forever!

    For only the third time, the theme of the day is "Encouraging Creativity". Let's all show Jack how creative we can be.

  • by saforrest ( 184929 ) on Friday April 27, 2007 @12:08AM (#18895981) Journal
    I'm the submitter of this article. In an effort to bend over backwards to be fair to Valenti, I included a link to the MPAA's own obit of him, as well as an interview where he talked about working to implement Lyndon Johnson's civil rights program.

    I see both these links were removed. Did that really need to happen? Yes, we all hate Valenti, etc., etc., etc. Does this article really need to be nothing other than a collective bitchfest? The man was a big fat jerk, but do we really need to talk about nothing more than that?

    In that case, here is Lord Byron's poem on Lord Castlereagh [wikipedia.org]:

    Posterity will ne'er survey
    a Nobler grave than this:
    Here lie the bones of Castlereagh:
    Stop, traveller, and piss !
  • out of touch (Score:4, Interesting)

    by nanosquid ( 1074949 ) on Friday April 27, 2007 @12:18AM (#18896049)
    Looks like in the early days of his MPAA presidency, he was fairly reasonable (as reasonable as anybody can be in that job). But he seems to have had a complete inability to comprehend and deal with the realities of 21st century technology. He should probably have stepped down from that job 20 years ago. The fact that the MPAA didn't make him step down 20 years ago tells you how troubled and outdated that organization is itself.
  • Re:Good (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Planesdragon ( 210349 ) <`slashdot' `at' `castlesteelstone.us'> on Friday April 27, 2007 @12:23AM (#18896115) Homepage Journal

    Darth Vader did something at the end to earn our forgiveness. As far as I can tell, Jack Valenti didn't kill the Emperor.
    Most of us are Christians. We are forgiven our sins against our creator for no reason at all.

    Rest in peace, Jack Valenti. May you find wisdom in heaven that seemed so lacking in your life on earth.
  • by tehwebguy ( 860335 ) on Friday April 27, 2007 @12:44AM (#18896247) Homepage
    ...to everyone at the MPAA / RIAA: We are younger than you, you will die before us. After that, we will change the laws you purchased.

    Every time these organizations cycle out officers, there will be younger, 'hipper', more intelligent people taking their places.

    Sometimes you just have to let a few generations die off to make progress.
  • by Wonko the Sane ( 25252 ) on Friday April 27, 2007 @12:48AM (#18896275) Journal

    * but then again, there are plenty of slashdotters that would have you killed for believing in a god in any fashion.
    I know I shouldn't feed the troll, but I can't let that one pass. Do you actually know of a single case anywhere of a murder committed by an atheist because the victim believed in god?
  • by p0tat03 ( 985078 ) on Friday April 27, 2007 @12:55AM (#18896311)

    Hitler was a person. Mussolini was a person. This is not to say that Jack Valenti is on par with Hitler, because he is not, but where do you want to draw the line between "go ahead and celebrate" and "mourn his death"?

  • Folks? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Friday April 27, 2007 @04:48AM (#18897619)
    I find it as funny and satisfying as the next guy, but what's really accomplished? Jack was just a stick figure in the game, take him out and put the next crook, erh, rook in, and the game's on again. It's not like anything changes just 'cause one finally croaked.

    Yes, it's refreshing to piss on the grave of people we really, really, really hate. Too bad that they don't care about it, or they might stop doing what they are doing. I mean, I for one wouldn't like to have a funeral with a ton of people coming just to check personally if I'm REALLY dead and it isn't just wishful thinking.

    But I doubt that Jack cared, or that his successor will. They know we hate them. They know we'd at best offer them a glass of water if they were drowning. Still they continue. If we want them to stop, we gotta make their life miserable, not their death. They don't care about us as long as they're living, how much less do they care once they're dead?

    But, you know, nothing but good about the deceased and all that, so I want to end this with something good about Jack: He was ... umm... Yes. That's about the best one can say about him: He was.
  • Re:Good (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Dachannien ( 617929 ) on Friday April 27, 2007 @09:35AM (#18899379)
    You're not a very good Christian.

    Forgiveness requires admission, repentance, atonement, and determination to not repeat past sins.


    Depends on which brand of Christianity you subscribe to. Fundamentalist Protestants, for example, generally believe that to be forgiven by God, you just have to ask.

    And a rather famous (to medieval historians, anyway) involved Emperor Henry IV begging forgiveness from Pope Gregory VII. Gregory asserted that the throne had no right to meddle in the appointment of officials to Church positions, which was a departure from prior tradition. In response, Henry called for the election of a new pope. And in response to that, Gregory excommunicated Henry.

    The military situation at the time was in Gregory's favor, so to buy time and restore his political influence, Henry went to beg forgiveness from the pope, standing in the snow for three days wearing a hairshirt as penance. Since Gregory, as Pope, was required to follow the example of Jesus, he was forced to grant forgiveness to Henry and accept him back into the Church. This permitted Henry to maintain his claim to the throne of the Holy Roman Empire, which gave him the clout necessary to muster an army which invaded Rome with designs on ousting Gregory from the papacy. Gregory escaped with the help of the Normans, but when the Normans got to Rome, they didn't stop at removing Henry's forces. They sacked Rome, and the resulting outrage amongst the populace forced Gregory to flee the city.

    In other words, "a determination to not repeat past sins" is not a requirement for forgiveness, not even from the Pope.

    How we managed to get the subject from Jack Valenti to the Holy Roman Empire, though, is a mystery to me.....
  • by tsalaroth ( 798327 ) <tsal@arikel.net> on Friday April 27, 2007 @10:05AM (#18899789) Homepage Journal
    I know what he's done, but still. Wait at least until after his wake or something. I agree with your opinion of him as a person, but I just don't agree with some of the things people are saying about his death. You know, most people like him end up crying and begging for forgiveness for what they've done in life while they're on their deathbed.

    He was also a pilot in WWII before he turned his strong convictions towards "protecting" an albeit sour industry.

    I guess my point is, you're lowering yourself to his level when you fling hate towards him at his death, rather than ignore or forgive him. Far better to show you are human (unlike him, as you say) and forgive or let be, than to become like the monster he was in life.

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