Apple and AT&T Announce iPhone Service Plans 538
daveschroeder writes "Apple and AT&T today announced service plans for iPhone, 4 days before its release in the US at 6pm local time on Friday, June 29. The plans are $59.99/mo for 450 minutes, $79.99 for 900 minutes, and $99.99 for 1350 minutes, and all include unlimited data, 200 SMS messages, rollover minutes, and unlimited mobile-to-mobile calling. Any other standard AT&T service plan may also be used. A two year service plan is required, with a $175 cancellation fee if terminated early. In addition, activations are done via iTunes, so only the hardware is purchased in the store. Interestingly, activation of a contract via iTunes is required to enable the iPod/syncing functionality of the phone as well. (It will remain to be seen whether there are workarounds for this for those who only want the iPod functionality of iPhone, and whether the iPhone is easily unlockable for those who wish to try it on alternate carriers, and so on.)"
A few other notes (Score:5, Informative)
- Since one would presume the iPod functionality of the device still needs to work when the contract expires, there is probably going to be a fairly easy hack/workaround to use only the iPod functionality (e.g., perhaps just a file sitting somewhere, a la
- It will be interesting to see whether AT&T will unlock the phone on request, as they do for other GSM phones (for international travel and prepaid SIMs), and if that is the case, how well other carriers' networks work with iPhone (obviously sans things like Visual Voicemail).
- Still no word on battery replacement specifics, but it seems safe to assume that iPhone is the same as iPod in this respect; namely, that it is sealed and that the battery isn't "user accessible", but that there will still be plenty of ways to replace the battery [ipodbatteryfaq.com] yourself or via third parties if you so choose (battery failure under warranty would be covered by the warranty [ipodbatteryfaq.com]). I'm going to be tracking this issue here [ipodbatteryfaq.com].
- Still no word on insurance or AppleCare, but since all iPods have AppleCare options ($59 for two years), iPhone probably will as well.
- Two more days to determine this for certain, but it appears that if only the iPod/syncing functionality (or first time setup, anyway) is what is tied with iTunes activation, WiFi via the browser will probably work fine as-is without a contract. Note: it is not certain that this is the case, but it seems likely. (Just a point of information; not stating this as inconrtovertible fact. The only way this might not be the case is if the entire phone is just locked until activated, which seems unlikely.)
- Also remains to be seen how "hackable" the phone is in general. Here's to hoping.
Unlimited Data. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:For the Love of Money (Score:5, Informative)
So, people aren't interested in this?
Ooookayyyy...
You want me to spend a minimum of $59.99/mo. + $499 for an iPhone?
No, I don't "want" anyone to do anything, other than know that plans have been released for iPhone.
Which is what a lot of people have been waiting for.
Which is why I submitted the story.
What else can you expect from a fat cat sconnie who prides himself on the BMWs he's owned and lists his top 'interest' as Apple?
Sorry I didn't submit as AC. Maybe I will next time to please you! And "fat can sconnie". Heh.
Also, I must deeply apologize for being interested in Apple. I know it's a rare ailment, and that it must offend you greatly. I'm almost shedding a tear!
Re:Unlimited data, eh? (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:iPod functionality (Score:5, Informative)
It's a great looking iPod and I'd be tempted if it were a little cheaper even with just 8Gb. But I live in the UK so we're not going to see it until Christmas anyway.
Re:Plans are not cheap (Score:4, Informative)
Re:For the Love of Money (Score:4, Informative)
I just submitted it because one of the most awaited pieces of information about iPhone was its plans, and since every other story here and on other tech blogs lately seems to be about iPhone...well, you get the idea.
Re:Unlimited data, eh? (Score:3, Informative)
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER? WTF? (Score:5, Informative)
System Requirements
Social Security number? WTF? This is 2007, companies that want my business should need my social security number.
As the Social Security Administrationtells us, [ssa.gov] "Your number is confidential... You should be careful about sharing your number with anyone who asks for it (even when you are provided with a benefit or service)." I reluctantly give it to banks and brokerages who need it for tax purposes. I very, very reluctantly give it to medical organizations.
A phone company? No, thank you.
Re:For the Love of Money (Score:5, Informative)
I dunno what the big deal is. In the US, you buy a phone and you're signing a 1 or 2 year contract, that is the norm here.
My phone with SprintPCS is about $80/mo, unlimited nights and weekends...I think about 1000 anytime minutes, SMS is extra, but, I don't use that much, nor do I ever come close to the daytime minutes. I have the full Vision plan...unlimited data, picture mail...and since I 'unlocked' the bluetooth modem capabilities in my Samsung A900...I can tether it to my laptop as needed.
The latter point, is the main reason I'm not going with the iPhone in Jan. when my current contract is up. It isn't price, it is the stated fact [macworld.com] that iPhone will NOT allow tethering to a laptop as a modem as part of their 'unlimited' data plan.
The price and monthly cost is no big deal to me....but, I want my tethering capability.
Re:SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER? WTF? (Score:4, Informative)
Once more, if you loose your password to the AT&T or Verizon websites, I have seen both sites require a SSN for password recovery.
Tracfone and some other pay-as-you-go plans don't require any such sillyness.
There's method to that madness... (Score:4, Informative)
IIRC they have a blurb in the TOS of the $20 plan saying you may not use the handset as a modem and they certainly do their damnedest to try and prevent you from using that feature, though basic GPRS is pretty crap on their network. I just got a 3G data card and they want $50/month for "unlimited" data for that.
I wonder if the SIM card trick would work on it. I mean, they had to assign it a telephone number (quoi?), so methinks they might not be able to tell the difference.
Re:If everyone jumped off a bridge (Score:3, Informative)
No, if I had to think about it...most of my minutes are cell phone to landline. I don't have a landline anymore (ditched it after becoming a nomad post-Katrina). But, I mainly use my phone on weekends to talk to parents, and friends using the free long distance (weekends and after 7pm weekdays). I usually try to call my friends on their landline number first...and if no answer, I leave a message on the machine, and then try their cell phone number.
I don't know that many people that have 'cut the cable' as I have....so, I definitely call more landlines than I do cell phones.
Re:Ah ha! (Score:5, Informative)
Wow: nice conspiracy theory. According to Merrill Lynch, return rates at HTC (the world's largest maker of Windows Mobile phone) at 2.2%, against an industry average of 3%. So, those "nightmare" return rates are... made up.
Re:Unlimited Data. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:A few other notes (Score:3, Informative)
In the US, they only had two choices, if you make the assumption that Apple didn't want to manufacture different versions of the phone for different markets (GSM vs. CDMA): AT&T and T-Mobile. Those are the only two national GSM carriers.
Once that's established, Apple really had no choice but to go with AT T-Mobile just isn't big enough, doesn't have the amount of coverage that AT&T has. I'm not happy about it either, because AT&T's service sucks in my area (northern New Mexico). Besides, I still have a year to go on my Verizon plan.
Re:A few other notes (Score:2, Informative)
From TFA: "In addition, iPhone customers can choose from any of AT&T's standard service plans."
So it seems you can keep your current agreement.
Re:Very reasonable... (Score:3, Informative)
I don't see why it should. The iPhone service pricing seems pretty much on par with similar offerings for other handsets and carriers (except Verizon, who deigns to charge two arms, a leg, and several teeth).
The carriers' goal is to get as much money from each service contract as they can. Maybe in cases where the handset cost is subsidized, the carrier doesn't have much of a profit margin; but that should not be taken to mean that a non-subsidized handset would mean the carrier would charge less for service. They'd continue to charge what everyone else is charging, and just keep as profit whatever doesn't go towards handset subsidies.
Re:Unlimited Data. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:+ unlimited data + SMS (Score:2, Informative)
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Re: Treo 650, etc. (Score:4, Informative)
http://google.com/gmm/treo [google.com]
Re:Alternate Carriers (Score:2, Informative)
Teathering not allowed on SprintPCS either! (Score:2, Informative)
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