Researchers Claim Pheromones Trigger Brain Cell Growth

The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation is reporting that pheromones could enable the growth of new brain cells. "Pheromone signals from dominant males spark new brain cells in their female partners and could help repair injured brains, suggests a new study by a University of Calgary neuroscientist. Sam Weiss's findings, in the July issue of the journal Nature Neuroscience, provide evidence that pheromones -- subtle chemical signatures that influence mating behavior -- can control stem cells in the brain."

Kinky!

[Anonymous Coward]

Pheromone signals from dominant males spark new brain cells in their female partners and could help repair injured brains

Dominant males and their female partners? Hmmmmmmmm, yeah. BDSM is fun! ^_^

That's why I

[goombah99]

sniff bicycle seats. Honest. Brain growth

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[Fordiman]

Is that why girls keep dumping me. They keep getting smart above the threshold below which is required to tolerate me.

Fun.

Evolution?

[bussdriver]

Explains why cave women could deal with being clubbed and dragged off by their hair. Or maybe its there to make sure their memory isn't damaged so remember to stay away? (nah, too many allow abuse and have clear memories of it.)

Oh really now?

[Icarus1919]

That's funny, I generally find that people become dumber when pheromones are involved.

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[Hoi Polloi]

New pickup line: "Come on baby, stay the night and I'll make you smarter."

My name is Buck and I like to ...

[(negative video)]

... uh, put down the knife, baby. It was therapeutic, I swear!

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[Harmonious Botch]

Ergo, you must not be a dominant male.

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[UbuntuDupe]

You mean the person exploiting the pheromes? No, they seem pretty smart.

I'm posting from a Wii btw.

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[Gertlex]

That's funny, I generally find that people become dumber when pheromones are involved.

I find that women most likely to cause men to "emit" pheromones are most often the dumber than the rest...

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[vought]

That's funny, I generally find that people become dumber when pheromones are involved.


No kidding. That bitch in accounting who wears tons of perfume seems to think she's the smartest woman alive.

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[Mahler]

If you train your muscles in the gym... you tear them first, before they grow bigger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_contraction#Ec centric_contraction [wikipedia.org]

So you may not be far from the truth.

Re:Oh really now?

[spikesahead]

Of course, new brain cells don't mean more intelligence.

New brain cells will accelerate learning and cement patterns in place. If people under the influence learn dumb patterns they will find it harder to break out of those patterns later.

This is probably one of the major reasons women in abusive relationships can't seem to break away from their abusers. The patterns of behavior become ingrained through this process.

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[fractoid]

Interesting... that may be a component, although I'd suspect it's more to do with variable-ratio reinforcement [wikipedia.org] - it's the percentage chance of a reward (abusive guy is actually nice) that makes it 'addictive' and hard for abused partners (it's not always women, I know of at least two cases of guys in this situation, one of whom actually committed suicide) to break out. It's the same scenario seen in problem gamblers and WoWcrack-heads, although arguably much more serious than either.

Dominate males don't abuse women...

[PetoskeyGuy]

This is probably one of the major reasons women in abusive relationships can't seem to break away from their abusers. The patterns of behavior become ingrained through this process.

One thing to remember is that men who abuse women are almost always NOT dominate / alpha males. My wife worked as a social worker for many years and I've had first hand experience with abusive guys. They abuse women because that allows them to have at least one person beneath them and work out their aggression at being such inferior guys themselves. That's also why most abusers commit suicide after they break and kill their ex's. They're too scared to go to prison.

Think back to Robert Heinlein - "Never frighten a little man. He'll kill you"

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[Maxo-Texas]

I agree. This matches my experience as well.

Males who are not alpha males are more afraid. Anger is most often based on fear.

However I think there are alpha males who are a problem because it is a bell curve-

On one end you have the weaklings that need to abuse someone to feel strong and cover their feelings of inadequacy. I've known some who are constantly afraid when they open up. On the other end you have the guys who are almost insane with testosterone. They'll fight anyone and they have trouble with

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[Baldrson]

That's also why most abusers commit suicide after they break and kill their ex's. They're too scared to go to prison.

Actuallly this is quite insightful except for one thing:

She doesn't actually cop to the fact that the "alpha of state", for which she works, is a wimp who is so chickenshit that "he" has to resort to black and Hispanic prison gangs to meet out "his" worst punishments on spouse-abusing white guys, and that "he" can't actually mate with the women who look to "him" for protection.

From Huma [hrw.org]

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[siriuskase]

This has nothing to do with you. It's about dominate males and women.

See, I told you!

[elrous0]

And you guys laughed at me when I said that all Terry Schiavo needed was some love!! Well, ha ha, joke's on you!!

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[Tablizer]

so thats us all ruled out

What about winners of the obfusicated Perl contests?....nevermind
     

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[Hal_Porter]

so thats us all ruled out

You're so gonna get a wedgie after school.

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[StillAnonymous]

That already exists. It's called "money".

Unfortunately, you're not going to find

[Anonymous Coward]

many dominant males here.

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[AmberBlackCat]

Since this seems to be a biological thing rather than a socially engineered one, I'd wonder who is considered the more dominant male in this case. Is it the guy who is big and strong enough to physically force other guys to succumb to him, or is it the guy who is rich enough to make a phone call and have other guys eliminated? I ask this because our economic system seems to give all of the power to the guys with money, but to me the ones who stand on their own seem more attractive.

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[Kokuyo]

It's neither. It's the one who knows he doesn't have to wave around cash or flex his bulging muscles because he is just that damn good. THAT is the dominant male. His mere presence, the calm and the haughty smirk will see to it that even the people with money and/or muscles will cower in fear of what this man might be able to do to them.

In our society, where the use of force is frowned upon, muscle only brings you so far. Cash can help you ruin other people but what does it help you if the other guy looks l

Yet another loser nerd pickup line

[eclectro]

Yeah baby! Do you wanna smell my underarm??

Re:Yet another loser nerd pickup line

[catwh0re]

Your Honour, it's evolutionary proof that you're supposed to hit them on the head and drag em back to your cave. See the article; they're built for it!

Re:

[Anonymous Coward]

You may jest, but if you want to get a woman, DON'T take a shower before heading out for the night. You don't want to be totally stinky either, but you'll have much better "luck" if you're not exactly just-washed-fresh. Seriously. It's silly, and you yourself may think you smell faintly of decomposing celery, but women give you far more positive attention if the last time you had a shower was about 24 hours ago (obviously people are different, 24 hours seems to be what works for me).

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[st1d]

He says as he sits at home alone typing... :)

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[st1d]

I was just kidding, but I agree, met a few women camping over the years. Wouldn't want to spend a week in backwoods country and try, but a day of roughing it can be an eye opener.

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[poopdeville]

And if you must shower, clean and dry your balls really well. While you're getting dressed, rub on your balls and rub the oily sweat on your neck, face, chest, and wrists. Women love the smell of balls.

No joke.

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[Cosmic AC]

This would only work for dominant males.

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[CarpetShark]

Yeah baby! Do you wanna smell my underarm??

There's an interesting social/cultural question here though: it's only a modern fashion that human scents are considered disgusting. In fact, research seems to suggest that, despite the fashion, the opposite is actually true.

So: if natural scents are good for us, then rejecting things that are good for us is potentially an attitude problem or even mental illness. At the very least, it makes me wonder how society is changing as a result, if people are rejecting so

Sooo...

[Khyber]

what would be the effects in same-sex couples? Would be nice to know if this worked, then I could go to my submissive hubby and go "take a whiff, you'll get smarter!"

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[Anonymous Coward]

Why is it that people insist on thinking that same-sex couples are exactly analogous to opposite-sex couples?

When you get right down to it, 'male' is not the same as 'female', at least in a biological sense. So of course you should expect that male-male, male-female, and female-female relationships can be pretty different from each other.

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[st1d]

Maybe not, but (and I'm totally freakin' guessing here...), it might be possible for people to attune their senses to a particular gender. Most people would be attuned to pheromones from members of the opposite sex, but if someone had a strong desire for someone of the same sex, it would seem natural for them to hone their skills in selecting one with a stronger sexual "signature". This is, of course, as long as some sensors for both sets of pheromones exist exist in both sexes, which is likely, consideri

Re:Sooo...

[bl8n8r]

>Why is it that people insist on thinking that same-sex couples are exactly analogous to opposite-sex couples?

A need for validation.

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[Your.Master]

He didn't insist that. He did the exact opposite. He asked.

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[Khyber]

Thank you for having the reading comprehension to know I was asking a question. It seems we're rapidly losing that here on /. as shown by the majority of responses (and some of the moderation as well.) Only one other decided to read and understand that I was asking a question, albeit only semi-seriously/half-jokingly.

Brave new plumber

[tmk]

A plumber designing sex toys? Seems reasonable to me. Remember "Brave new world"? They had no sexy women, they had pneumatic woman.

In Lenina's case, the word is used by both Henry Foster and Benito Hoover to describe what she's like to have sex with. She herself remarks that her lovers usually find her "pneumatic," patting her legs as she does so. In reference to Lenina it means well-rounded, balloon-like, or bouncy, in reference to her flesh, and in particular her bosom. Huxley is not the only writer to

Re:

[Gilmoure]

What about my dingy ducts?

I can see the courtroom scene now..

[ruinous]

Pheromone signals from dominant males spark new brain cells in their female partners "But your honour, I only beat my wife to make her smarter."

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[coolGuyZak]

Since when does dominance have anything to do with beating your wife? Statements like yours aren't funny, they're disgusting.

Human Alpha Males?

[Hiween]

The question is how did they choose the dominant males and the subordinate?. You can well go to a company and test with a Manager and young new employee, but I don't think that biologically there are any significant difference (at least not correlated with the dominant/subordinate biological trait). The article is pretty short on details of how the test was conducted.

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[catbutt]

Well the test was done on mice. In mice dominant males are the ones that females are likely to mate with, so maybe they should say "matable males". For humans, it would probably translate "attractive males", or at least "males that the females in question find sexually attractive".

I think people are reading too much into the word "dominant".

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[Hiween]

Actually, I checked the Wikipedia entry for dominant male. A little quote:

In humans, the expression refers to a man who is powerful or high on the social ladder, similar to hegemonic masculinity. In Western cultures, the term is usually pejorative and describes a man who is overtly or affectedly masculine to the point of rejecting any affront to his ascribed status.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominant_male/ [wikipedia.org]

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[Hal_Porter]

You can well go to a company and test with a Manager and young new employee, but I don't think that biologically there are any significant difference (at least not correlated with the dominant/subordinate biological trait).

Are you kidding? Very senior managers are exactly analogous to the silverback gorillas, the pack alpha males. Middle managers are more like their bitches to be honest than alpha males, though they'll bare their fangs at subordinates a bit if they can get away with it. Mind you as you go

So the truth is finally revealed...

[SixDimensionalArray]

Glad to lay this ages old argument to rest.. women are actually smarter than men.. but because men's pheromones make them that way?!?!

I sense a disturbance in the force! It's as if a million feminists shouted out at once and were suddenly silenced, if not utterly confused!

SixD

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[CAIMLAS]

Personally, I suspect that the increased brain cells, which assist 'learning' processes, are there not to make women 'smarter' but to make them more adaptable to the personality quirks of their mate. In an evolutionary sense, I can see how this would be advantageous: she's more able to cope with (and even thrive in) his bullshit (to a limit) and he doesn't get as irritated by her female silliness as a result. Maybe it's a female adaptation to try and make up for the male propensity to fuck-and-run, and to h

Elaine

[MadUndergrad]

Hey, Seinfeld was right. Sex does make women smarter. Will they find evidence now that it makes men dumber, and abstaining causes increases, thus explaining /.?

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[poopdeville]

Considering how utterly moronic most slashdot posters and readers are, that doesn't seem like a very good theory.

Cell growth != smarter

[The Orange Mage]

"Pheromone signals from dominant males spark new brain cells in their female partners and could help repair injured brains, suggests a new study by a University of Calgary neuroscientist.

This goes against known logic, as battered women almost ALWAYS stay with the abusive man, regardless of all logic.

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[Joebert]

That's because in those situations, the male is actually emitting Fearomones.

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[m0nkyman]

Men who batter women are not alpha males. They are cowardly losers.

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[phorm]

While I think that saying all battered women behave the same is definitely a generality, I have known some women in this situation. It is much more an emotional/psychological based issue than a intellectual one.

It all makes sense

[ls671]

According to the bible, God created Adam and Eve was created from Adam's rib. Now, God had to find a way to put brain cells in Eve's head ;-)

for their own good

[indrek]

Pheromone signals from dominant males spark new brain cells in their female partners

I do not know whether to sympathize with the girlfriends of the slashdot crowd (yep, both of them), as I am afraid they might end up being dominated tonight, or to be happy for them, as this will of course be for their own good.

So The Cure For Alzheimer's Is...

[Petersko]

...regular attendance at WWE events!

Who woulda thunk it?

Am I the only one trying to RTFA ?

[TheTapani]

There is no such article in the July issue of Nature Neuroscience:

http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v10/n7/index.h tml [nature.com]

No papers by Sam Weiss or anything whose name sounds like the paper discussed. Or am I missing something?

//T

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[edsyc]

It appears that the article has not yet been published but is posted online in advance [nature.com]. Also, Samuel Weiss is the last author of seven. I find it a little weird that CBC article calls them "Sam Weiss's findings," as if he were the only one working on it.

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[smittyoneeach]

if ((uid>1000000) && RTFA) n00b = true;

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[tftp]

If this is the only place you make the decision then a better way would be like this:

n00b = (uid > 1000000) && RTFA;

This is generally the preferred way, unless your decision making formula is overly complex, then the code is bad just because of that :-)

Re:

[smittyoneeach]

Yeah, but if you're trying to express a smart-alec joke in code on /., then the explicit conditional seems appropriate, if verbose. Verbosity is the friend of the n00b.

Mandatory insensitive clod post

[Tatisimo]

What about us non-dominant feminist sympathizing males, you insensitive clod!

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[sheriff_cahill]

What about us non-dominant feminist sympathizing males, you insensitive clod!

So...What about us sensitive clods, you insensitive clod!

Serious question...

[RobertM1968]

And if you dont think it is, check out my MySpace page.... but what about dominant males and their male partners? I wonder if anyone has measured that? Is it something to do with the way the pheremones act only on a female partner? Any partner (male or female), or any person who has had sufficient exposure?

Serious Answer

[martin_henry]

Can you test it out when you get home and get back to us?

thanks

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[RobertM1968]

Can you test it out when you get home and get back to us?

thanks

Will you come over and help me? Thanks.

Sorry, no, I am single. No girlfriend, no boyfriend... not even a pet.

Maybe I waste too much time on /.?

:-)

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[martin_henry]

Maybe I waste too much time on /.?

Just ignore it like the rest of us!

Guys: For the sake of women's brains . . .

[StefanJ]

. . . DON'T SHOWER!

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[SmlFreshwaterBuffalo]

This is Slashdot. We're way ahead of you!

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[vikstar]

. . . DON'T SHOWER!

before all the geeks on slashdot get too excited, TFA says that this only works for alpha males. So, better luck next time guys.

Chuck Norris

[Plutonite]

Chuck Norris: Instantly repairing your pink-matter since God made pheromones.

CAN'T be true

[erroneus]

If this were true, then dogs would be geniuses!

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[T.E.D.]

If this were true, then dogs would be geniuses!

OK. Tell me who right now is at work, and who is home napping?

Is that a neuron in your pants?

[syousef]

Or are you just happy to sniff me?

About pheromones

[Maxo-Texas]

Here are the basic types
N = Androstenone R = Androsterone L = Androstenol
D = Androstadienone B = Beta-androstenol C = Copulins

Androstenone is lust/alpha. I've been told by women this "smells like man".
Androsterone is warm/father/trust type. Promotes conversation in both sexes.
Copulins have been shown to raise testosterone levels in about 20 minutes in healthy males (something females would use normally).

These work. In extremely tiny quantities. On about 40% of females in my experience and dramatically for about 15%. They are excellent for males with naturally low alpha pheromones including aging males (like me). If you overdose you will get into fights in bars, get headaches, and scare away females- you have been warned.

The rest (and oxytocin (sp?)) I haven't had luck with. They will not overcome yellow dirty teeth, bad B/O, acting like a wimp, hideous fashion sense. They give an edge and multiply positive emotions. They do not fix or overcome massive negative emotions. So dress well, have good hygiene, be cocky/funny, and add these in and you will have better luck. For the ladies, adding copulins in makes males more aggressive (if you like that).

They are not cheap. They are not expensive. $29 to $79 for about 6 months supply.

I use love-scent but there are other sites. I was attracted to love-scent because it has a long deep history and they had a research bias in their forums.

We are not dogs or insects. The brain matters. Both of you getting drunk will probably have a stronger effect than mones.

So when we meet dumb people ..

[ignavus]

So when we meet dumb people, we shouldn't tell them to "grow a brain", we should just waft our pheromones at them.

Corollary: if the world had more dominant males to waft about their pheromones, the world would be a smarter place.

Puts one in the eye for feminism, though.

and dominant women?

[beat-ofen]

does they make the man more stupid?

I think so.....

So...

[groovebot]

This means that Dr. Phil was wrong the whole time. Women really do need men to be complete!

I've been waiting for something like this!

[shaitand]

Finally I can tell my wife that giving head will make her more intelligent.

It should perhaps be noted that ...

[jc42]

This study was done with mice.

Granted, humans and mice share a lot of DNA. But rodents and primates are sufficiently distant genetically that few if any results in one family can be applied directly to the other. In particular, a lot of human adaptations happened by weakening builtin, instinctive behavior, and replacing it with learned behavior.

Maybe this result will carry over to humans, maybe not. Or, most likely, there will be something similar in humans, but the trigger will be visual or language bas

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[Maxo-Texas]

Another key difference is that vomeronasal organ currently appears to be non-functional in humans. And the VNO is outright missing in many humans. So pheromones in humans are working by some other less direct path. All things are on bell curves so perhaps a subset of humans have working VNO's but the research I've seen isn't promising.

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[Maxo-Texas]

Cool article here...
http://www.cf.ac.uk/biosi/staff/jacob/teaching/sen sory/pherom.html [cf.ac.uk]

This is GREAT news!

[Alsee]

Thank god I'm a female brain-damaged mouse!

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Just What We Need

[writerjosh]

Great, just what we need, more fuel for the already over-inflated egos of the world.