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Explosives Camp 419

Posted by samzenpus
from the if-you-love-something-blow-it-up dept.
theodp writes "How about a summer camp where you get in trouble for not blowing things up? Students with a passion for all things explosive and proof of US citizenship pay a $450 fee to attend Summer Explosives Camp, 'We try to give them an absolute smorgasbord of explosives,' quipped a professor at the University of Missouri-Rolla, which offers a minor in explosives engineering. Here's the brochure (PDF), kids!"
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Explosives Camp

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  • Kaboom (Score:4, Funny)

    by bruce_the_loon (856617) on Thursday July 05, 2007 @01:56AM (#19750951) Homepage
    Need I say more, cousin Osama. You buy the plane ticket, I'll get the passports.
    • All I can say is that this truly looks like fun. Given the spare time and spare cash, I'd love to do something like that.

      I haven't gotten to play with explosives under the watch of a trained professional since I was a wee lad before my great grandfather passed away (he was a demolitions man for the railroad). *grin*
    • Safety isn't first (Score:5, Insightful)

      by vargasman (1077465) <[vargasman] [at] [gmail.com]> on Thursday July 05, 2007 @03:25AM (#19751395)
      Did anybody else catch that safety was number 2?

      1. How to prime and shoot dynamite.
      2. Safety precautions when handling explosives.
      3. Where explosives are used.
      4. The curriculum and department of Mining Engineering at UMR.
      5. What careers are available that are explosive related.
      6. How underground blasts work.
      7. How explosives are used in industry.
      8. How to set up and shoot off a fireworks display.
      • by Opportunist (166417) on Thursday July 05, 2007 @05:24AM (#19752025)
        That's because safety information has more punch when you're able to show what happens when you do NOT heed them. So after step one, the intro to step two is most likely "See, kids, and this happens when you forget to..."
      • by joe-a-dad (1124145) on Thursday July 05, 2007 @08:10AM (#19752693)
        Anonymous Coward,

        As a father whose daughter asked to go last year and was accepted, SAFETY was the first and foremost emphasis. Not only did my daughter have a "blast" (pun intended) it built up her confidence and now she has chosen engineering as her major. She will be attending UM-Rolla next year as a freshman. The course was not only very well done with lectures and practicum, it was done on an campus that refuses to be politically correct. Would be terrorists were weeded out. Some child threatened to blow up a building from the middle east and he was deported 12 hours later. I think they know a lot about safety.
        • by Rorschach1 (174480) on Thursday July 05, 2007 @11:15AM (#19754373) Homepage
          To be fair, the building from the middle east was in the country illegally anyway.
        • by eck011219 (851729) on Thursday July 05, 2007 @11:15AM (#19754381)
          How do you deport someone in the program if one of the requirements is U.S. citizenship? Where do you deport them TO?

          I know you can have joint citizenship, but can you be subject to immediate revocation of your American citizenship AND immediate deportation without a hearing? More to the point, can you do that to a minor?

          I don't mean to call your statement into question (okay, I guess I do, but I don't mean it as a personal attack) -- this just doesn't seem to add up somehow.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      "and proof of US citizenship" because no US citizen has ever tried to blow something up in this country
  • uhm, what? (Score:2, Offtopic)

    "Application deadline is April 1, 2007"

    So why is this even being submitted now? It's not like it has any relevance for the rest of the year.
    • by ghoul (157158) on Thursday July 05, 2007 @02:00AM (#19750979)
      The application deadline is on April Fool's day? Isnt that a blast?
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by GizmoToy (450886)
      Yea, and not only was the deadline April Fool's Day, but even if this somehow managed to not be a joke the course dates were June 3 - 9 and June 17 - 23. There'd be Explosives Camp alumni by now!
    • by donaldm (919619)
      Well it may be April Fool in the US but in Australia this type of course is available as a one semester subject (the costs seems to be similar to the US course). Doing a course like this can lead to a job in the mining or demolition industry, however jobs like this are quite dangerous and the locations can be quite remote, that is why these people are well paid.
  • by Bo'Bob'O (95398) on Thursday July 05, 2007 @02:00AM (#19750977)
    Can I go?
  • by ghoul (157158) on Thursday July 05, 2007 @02:02AM (#19750985)
    Why is US citizenship required? Its especially funny as the professor conducting the camp is a Briton and not a US citizen. And its not like mines us explosives only in the US. People come to the US from all over the world for the best education available. Why would you think a foreigner who wants to be a mining engineer is not a valid candidate?
    • by jd (1658) <<moc.oohay> <ta> <kapimi>> on Thursday July 05, 2007 @02:21AM (#19751091) Homepage Journal
      Stop. Think. A Briton is in America, wanting American citizens - and only American citizens - to play with extremely dangerous explosives. There can be only one explanation. Revenge for The A-Team and Knight Rider.
    • "Why is US citizenship required?"

      In a post 9-11 world, is it really surprising things like that are done to cover their butts?
    • Mining explosives is a very specialised subject. The object is to produce shock waves with no blast and no fire (think about it.) You want to break up rock or minerals with the absolute minimum of side effects, using the absolute minimum amount of energy necessary and raising as little dust as possible, not only because of health and safety risks but because any other approach adds cost. If you want to be a mining engineer, you learn explosives at mining school not summer camp. And you learn it, mostly, fro
      • by timmarhy (659436)
        since when do engineers do blasts? they merely give the blast crew a map and ask them to put the shots down.

        unlikely everyone else here it appears, i actually work at a mine site.

        you are correct though, the object of a blast in mining it to break up rock. And yes i think most of the /. crowd would last 1 shift on a blast crew, not because of any danger but because it's actually fucking hard work.

    • Could be that part of the camp is subsidized by the United States government which dictates that only US Citizens be involved.
  • Sign me up! (Score:2, Funny)

    by AciesD (881178)
    Dad will be so proud.
  • Wtf? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by doyoulikeworms (1094003) on Thursday July 05, 2007 @02:04AM (#19750995)
    If you were going to blow shit up, Osama style, you would certainly NOT need to go to a childs' educational camp to do it. More power to people making science more interesting for kids.
    • by arivanov (12034)
      Really?

      I have a different take on this one. Even if it started with good intentions, it will very soon end in: "More power to people making sure the Homeland Security no-fly database is populated from as early age as possible".
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by bateleur (814657)
      You say that, but the most recent terrorists in London were incompetent [theregister.co.uk] and could have learned a lot from such a camp.

      (Not that I'm advocating banning such camps, just pointing out not all terrorists have access to proper training.)
      • by Tony Hoyle (11698)
        They were using gas cylinders not dynamite... sure they could have used a little knowledge in how a detonator works, but they were smart people (at least half of them were qualified doctors) and knew how to use google.. the info is out there, they just didn't use it.

  • by weighn (578357) <weighn@gm[ ].com ['ail' in gap]> on Thursday July 05, 2007 @02:05AM (#19750999) Homepage
    can't wait to see the end-of-camp group shots - powder smudged faces, bandages, tattered clothing hanging from severed limbs...ah, the memories!
  • Obviouthly it's a technical thchool and not anything near the ivy leagueths... The brothure acthually stateth that the deadline for applicanth is April 1th.

    Yes. The 1th.

    Not the 1st. Becauth they're not that type of inthituthun. Dammit, Jim, they're miners, not phythithiths!

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Being an Alumni of UMR (or Missouri School of Technology as the name is changing this year) I can assure you that the camp is for real and not an April fools joke. Additionally, questioning the intellegence of the school, when I was there, it had the second highest entrance exam scores of any US institution, second only to MIT.
  • Oh well.. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by bm_luethke (253362)
    I bet if they really wanted to make some money drop the following requirements:

    "This camp is limited to 20 Junior and Senior high school students who are interested in enrolling at UMR and are at least 16 by the first day of camp."

    I am sure there are quite a few people out there with lots of "disposable income" that would pay lots to do this. I know I had to take a look - maybe something worth a week or two of vacation time, especially seeing the 450 dollar price tag (not sure what my upper limit would be,
    • Really, I know what I can and can not do and is why I do not play with real explosives, I like really big "booms" yet legally can not purchase them nor do I really know how to safely set them off.

      That was one of the fun things that I remember as a kid. My great grandfather was a trained demolitions man for the railroad. I got great enjoyment blowing things up with the cantankerous old man =]

      Yes, I got to learn about explosives from my great grandfather, bladed weapons from my martial arts teachers, and va
  • by TodMinuit (1026042) <todminuit@NOspAM.gmail.com> on Thursday July 05, 2007 @02:36AM (#19751165)
    Screw the Boy Scouts! No one needs to know how to tie a frickin' knot, nor do we need to know how to build a stupid soap box car.

    Lets create the Urban Scouts, where children will learn how to pick locks, phone phreak, hack computers, and social engineer.
  • Are US citizens more capable of handling explosives? Or do they have a lower tendency to cause harm with intent by way of explosives?
  • ... Mythbusters Camp.

    Heck, they blow up enough stuff there, why not.

    You could even have the MB crew there - all the blokes would be chanting "Kari! Kari! Kari!", and Jamie & Adam would just be standing there wondering why they bothered turning up at all.
  • I wish we had things like that in the UK. I also wish I wasn't nearly 30 and thus could go to them if we did have them.

    All of this reminds me that I need to renew my explosives certificate.

  • Not so fun (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Uruz 7 (986742) on Thursday July 05, 2007 @04:06AM (#19751623) Journal
    Blowing things up really isn't all that fun. I was a demo guy in the Army and for the most part it was a pain in the ass. I do like the feeling when the wave of energy passes through your body but we always hunkered down and never actually witnessed an explosion because of the danger factor. And in Iraq it was a lot of hard work to pile up shell after shell of UXOs or captured IED components in 130 degree heat.

    You can have the demo camp. I want a $450 camp where you just lay on a beach and get drunk with beautiful women. Where's that brochure?
  • How do I get selected?
    Send the following:
    1. One page resume
    2. 250 word essay on "Why I am interested in a career focusing on the application of explosives"
    3. A letter of recommendation from a high school teacher or counselor
    They'll use the answer to question 2 to weed out terrorists, by banning anyone interested in planting explosives but not landing a salary.
  • Illegal (Score:3, Informative)

    by fozzmeister (160968) on Thursday July 05, 2007 @04:29AM (#19751743) Homepage
    Britain/Europe is working on making publishing information on how to make bombs illegal. Burn the books, Burn the books!

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/art icle2023030.ece [timesonline.co.uk]
  • UMR (Score:2, Interesting)

    by POKETNRJSH (944872)
    Heh, UMR. The school with a 3-1 male/female ratio...Only reason I'm thinking about going is for the explosives class (and a free ride) but other than that I'm looking out of state. Also, they just changed their name to the Missouri Institute of Science and Technology, or MUST for short. Gooooo MUSTy Miners! (Who mine with a slide rule o.O)
  • by jollyreaper (513215) on Thursday July 05, 2007 @09:02AM (#19753049)
    *allison hannigan voice* And this one time at explosives camp...
  • I went to UMR (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Stop+A (301523) on Thursday July 05, 2007 @09:40AM (#19753335)
    and worked for Professor Worsey in his lab. It was a great experience--got to blow stuff up, got some machine shop experience, got to work in the mine.

    In reference to another thread, I seem to recall that Worsey is a US citizen. It was quite a multi-cultural experience, there was another prof from England, a brief visit from a South African, a Pole and a Russian.

    If you meet Worsey (and aren't in mixed company), ask him about sheep and wellies...

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