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Did We Really Need Seven New Wonders? 324

freakxx writes "Seven new 'wonders of the world' have been announced today in a ceremony in Lisbon, Portugal. People throughout the world have voted actively to elect the new 7 out of 21 finalists. The final lineup is: Chichen Itza, Mexico; Christ Redeemer, Brazil; The Great Wall, China; Machu Picchu, Peru; Petra, Jordan; The Roman Colosseum, Italy; and The Taj Mahal, India. The Pyramids of Giza was the only candidate that used to be among the original seven wonders. Did we really need seven new wonders of the world? Why was this decided via a website poll (pdf) and SMS messages?"
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Did We Really Need Seven New Wonders?

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  • It was a PR stunt (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 08, 2007 @03:16AM (#19786909)
    I think the Pyramids came out the winner because they refused to participate.
  • Why lament it? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by rolfwind ( 528248 ) on Sunday July 08, 2007 @03:18AM (#19786919)
    Most of the original seven wonders are long gone. That's why this was needed. Really, what was the original list? Just a compilation from the Greco-Roman point of view. This time this could have more international flavor.

    This is also good exposure not just to the 7 winners, but to all the nominees. I certainly learn about a few sights I have not heard of before. Unless you think us Americans really ought to go to stay ignorant and go to Disneyland every year (I give no money to that company).
  • The reason... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Zouden ( 232738 ) on Sunday July 08, 2007 @03:36AM (#19787021)
    No, "we" didn't need seven new wonders, but the company behind this poll took money in exchange for letting people vote multiple times [wikipedia.org].
    With the increased tourism revenue that being on this list would provide, one can expect that many governments would have taken advantage of this offer.
    This list was a scam, plain and simple. There are so many wonderful things in the world... what the hell is the point of identifying 7 "most popular" ones?
  • by cashman73 ( 855518 ) on Sunday July 08, 2007 @04:39AM (#19787367) Journal
    He also didn't limit it to only seven [wikipedia.org]. Our world has many more things on it that would easily be classified as, "wonders." There's no reason for limitations (except, of course, for money, greed, or tourism dollars).
  • Chichen Itza (Score:3, Interesting)

    Something interesting happened to me.

    Before this new 7 wonders stuff... I had never really appreciated the pyramid of Chichen Itza (I'm mexican). I said, yeah it's just an old building so what? The egyptian pyramids are cooler.

    But due to the new 7 wonders poll, Discovery Channel made a documentary about Chichen Itza. I was amazed of the cultural richness of that thing. Not only the pyramid, but the whole temple and mayan culture. It really helped me appreciate my own roots.

    So, how should we mod the new 7 wonders phenomenon? Troll? Interesting? Insightful? Informative?

    I'd say both interesting and insightful, and if we count the future documentaries done on these wonders, I'd add "Informative", too.

  • The real wonders (Score:2, Interesting)

    by el_jake ( 22335 ) on Sunday July 08, 2007 @05:21AM (#19787567)
    The Universe
    Our Solar System
    Our Sun
    Planet Earth
    The Human Race
    Our children
    Love

    Seems like we are extremely short sighted in our localized definition of wonders
  • by trippeh ( 1097403 ) on Sunday July 08, 2007 @05:29AM (#19787601) Homepage Journal
    The seven wonders of the world should not be decided by SMS and online polls. That eliminates a huge ammount of the population. Of course, I can't think of a better way of doing it. And I also think that a large number of that eliminated group wouldn't have the global knowledge, or the inclination, to pick seven different things. But it's still unfair and further widens the digital divide (if indeed the digital divide exists...)
  • Yep. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by hummassa ( 157160 ) on Sunday July 08, 2007 @06:19AM (#19787773) Homepage Journal
    (first, one hand -- er, foot -- to our USofAn friends)
    Statue of Liberty 151' 1" (46.5 m) + pedestal 154 feet (46.9 m) = 305'1" (93.4 m)
    Christ Redeemer 125 feet (38 m) + Corcovado [wikipedia.org] 2,330 feet (710 m) = 2,455' (748 m)

    Both standing on the Atlantic Ocean (the Corcovado is a mountain right on the shore (*), and that's what make it quite impressive...) I'm Brasilian, but not Carioca [wikipedia.org], so I have only been there twice, but the view is incredible.

    (*) Ok, technically not. The Corcovado is right on top of the Lagoa Rodrigo de Freitas, and the Lagoa is itself like 1km from the shore. take a look [google.com].
  • Re:Chichen Itza (Score:3, Interesting)

    by xtracto ( 837672 ) on Sunday July 08, 2007 @06:43AM (#19787859) Journal
    I'll tell you the place is really amazing. For 15 years I lived very close their place (in Campeche) and I went a couple of times. As a building is really beautiful and as an architecture achievement is really awesome. As I have seen with previous posts on slashdot, people a lot of people who doesn't know these places are fast to judge them.

    From the 7 winners I have only seen Chichen Itza, but my father has seen the Wall of China and the Machu Pichu and my girlfriend have seen the Coliseum, and both agree that they *really* are wonderful. Of course I can think that according to some of the USA thinking, a lot of individuals here in slashdot will think that, because certain construction was on included in that list, it makes the list less valuable or accurate but then again, they fail to understand the concept of voting.

    I agree with the person that said that the Easter Island Heads (Moais) should have been into the list (personally instead of the Christ), but I haven't seen any of the two so my thought is only a guess. But it at most naïve to think that the ones selected won due to some kind of voting bias, as I am sure in the case of Chichen Itza, less than 0.01% of Mexicans voted... I am *sure* it is more appreciate by more people outside Mexico than by Mexicans.
  • What a great scam (Score:3, Interesting)

    by sh4na ( 107124 ) <shana.ufie@NospaM.gmail.com> on Sunday July 08, 2007 @08:43AM (#19788493) Homepage
    There are really some people that are just made to scam everyone else and get rich(er) in the process. Let's see:

    According to the terms of the company that set all this thing up, New Open World Corporation, anyone could vote one time for free, on the internet. You could additionaly vote as much as you wanted via sms. Also according to their terms, they could exclude any votes they wished, at any time.

    If you believe their 100 million votes claim, and if you think that each sms vote costs 50 euro cents (I usually see them more expensive on contests, so the lower price helps offset the free votes), they just made a whooping 50 million euros with the sms voting alone. Now this doesn't count all the private donations they got, most definitely from countries that wanted to make sure their entry made it to the top of the list and stayed there (after all, it is a nice boom for tourism) - I don't know if the countries payed to have their entries on the list per-se, but you can bet the tv stations that syndicated the show payed through their nose for the rights.

    The show in Lisbon cost 12 million euros. We can even raise that figure to 20 million to cover the marketing campaign costs of the last 6 months. Heck, put in 25 million, just to be on the safe side.

    They still made 25 million euros with the sms voting alone. Now how's that for a scam?

  • Who cares ?! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by billcopc ( 196330 ) <vrillco@yahoo.com> on Sunday July 08, 2007 @10:54AM (#19789411) Homepage
    This focuses on the good wonders, but what about the bad wonders ? Like in the sentence "I wonder how we could have let that happen".

    1. Letting Diebold get away with rigging the elections right in everyone's face!
    2. Destroying the US economy by funneling most of the country's cash into credit firms and war efforts
    3. Spending man-years in court fighting over flexible definitions of common English terms
    4. Making huge violent fusses over our imaginary friends in the sky
    5. Being more interested in building the highest, most expensive hotel on the globe, than diverting 1% of that money to help improve local conditions and health.
    6. Having a solution to nuclear war that's called "mutually assured destruction"
    7. Being so obsessed with other people's money that we have to fight over who gets included in some bullshit tourist list.
  • by kpharmer ( 452893 ) on Sunday July 08, 2007 @10:58AM (#19789445)
    Before we start adding some piddling monuments like Mt. Rushmore, I think we need to consider some more of our overlooked wonders:

    world's largest ball of string:
        http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/MNDARtwine. html [roadsideamerica.com]

    world's largest pecan:
        http://www.worldslargestthings.com/missouri/pecan. htm [worldslargestthings.com]

    world's largest buffalo:
        http://www.wlra.us/wl/wlbuffalo.htm [www.wlra.us]

    world's largest pineapple:
        http://www.wlra.us/wl/wlpineapple.htm [www.wlra.us]

    world's largest muskie:
        http://www.wlra.us/wl/wlmuskie.htm [www.wlra.us]

    world's largest catsup bottle:
        http://www.catsupbottle.com/ [catsupbottle.com]
  • Re:Why lament it? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Sique ( 173459 ) on Sunday July 08, 2007 @01:47PM (#19790841) Homepage
    First of all: The translation is misleading. What Antipatros was compiling was a list of "seven showpieces of the known world", basicly a tourist list to mark off for wealthy travellers with too much time at hand.

    And for that the new list serves pretty well.
  • by jamrock ( 863246 ) on Sunday July 08, 2007 @03:29PM (#19791577)

    Any list of wonders that excludes Angkor Wat is a waste of time.

    Not to mention including Christ the Redeemer and giving the Pyramids "honorary" status. What a joke. The whole "Wonders of the World" thing was just a way to interest the general (European) public in the amazing sights to be found in the far corners of what was then still a mysterious world, and there were seven of them because it dovetailed well with the romantic notion of "Seven Seas" and "Seven Continents". It was just basically all about publicity by and for the archaeologists and explorers. This "New Seven Wonders" shtick is about nothing more than publicity as well, because if I had to limit it to only seven, Christ the Redeemer would not be on it.

    The case could easily be made for Angkor Wat, as well as many, many other sites of cultural, historical, and/or architectural significance, but AFAIK the "Forgotten Wonder" has never even been mentioned on any list of "World Wonders". I'm speaking about the Banaue Rice Terraces of the Philipine Cordilleras [wikipedia.org], which were named a UNESCO World Heritage Site in 1995, and which have my vote as the most amazing civil engineering project in human history. The terraces certainly fit the "Wonder" criteria many times over: they're ancient, having been built between 6,000 and 2,000 years ago, predating any of the current or vanished wonders; they're colossal, covering almost 4,000 square miles of mountainside; they're a marvel of engineering, the entire vast system of walls, terraces, steps, not to mention the ancient irrigation system which brings water down from the rainforests above the terraces, were built by hand; and most incredibly of all, 2,000 years after completion they're still maintained and used by the descendants of the original builders.

    Everything about the terraces is truly mind-boggling, including the idea of a people still pursuing the same cultural traditions for literally millennia, but I guess that a bunch of ancient mountain farmland in a remote part of Asia isn't as sexy as Jesus in Brazil.

  • Industrial Wonders (Score:2, Interesting)

    by bjorniac ( 836863 ) on Sunday July 08, 2007 @03:29PM (#19791579)
    On a sidenote, the BBC did an incredible series, The 7 Wonders of the Industrial World [bbc.co.uk] which was absolutely fascinating. I got it for my grandfather-in-law's birthday (he's a civil engineer), and watching the series you realize why some of these things really are wonders. The design, planning and sheer amount of labour that went into some of these is incredible. I'd consider it recommended reading for anyone considering thinking about "new" wonders of the world.

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