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University of Kansas Will Not Forward RIAA Letters 126

Bonewalker writes "Looks like the University of Kansas may not be as pro-RIAA (or anti-student) as initially assumed last week from our recent discussion. From the Chronicle article: 'Kansas officials told the student newspaper that they will not heed the recording industry's request to pass pre-litigation notices on to 14 students accused of music piracy. Many institutions have forwarded the letters -- which offer students a chance to settle file-sharing claims out of court at discounted rates -- but some have declined to do so, citing concerns over students' privacy.' Of course, this doesn't make that 'one-strike' policy any less flawed, but it shows that they aren't simply throwing their students under the RIAA bus, as one poster put it."
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University of Kansas Will Not Forward RIAA Letters

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  • by bensafrickingenius ( 828123 ) on Friday July 27, 2007 @02:52PM (#20014575)
    (I'm a home user, not a student) from HBO because they caught me uploading The Sopranos. Well, actually, I was downloading it, but using bittorrent so i was of course also uploading. Anyway, I was glad to see it was just a cease and desist kind of thing and not a settlement offer. I've been a little more careful since throwing away that pair of underwear, I must confess.
  • Re:In loco parentis (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Nos. ( 179609 ) <andrew@t[ ]errs.ca ['hek' in gap]> on Friday July 27, 2007 @02:57PM (#20014631) Homepage
    I don't think I quite agree with what you're saying, but I do agree with the actions being taken. The university is no position do discipline the students as you suggest. The university is doing what any organization should, protect its members' privacy.
  • by exabrial ( 818005 ) on Friday July 27, 2007 @03:02PM (#20014709)
    Kansas University is a pretty big school (~40k students I think...) The other large university (Kansas State University) just blocks all P2P; I used to work for the Enterprise Server group there.
  • Re:Makes sense (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Rolgar ( 556636 ) on Friday July 27, 2007 @03:06PM (#20014747)
    Well, this protects the university from litigation. If they cutoff only those users they get notices on, then they have a perfectly valid justification for shutting them off. These users are locked into student housing for the remainder of the semester, but they will know what risk they are taking if they P2P in the future, and will have to live with the consequences, and schools don't include a "legal protection from RIAA/MPAA fee" in the list of fees students are forced to pay. I don't get the anger over this issue, and I'm more disposed to hate KU than anybody.

    If students don't want to live with this policy, they can move off campus, and get AT&T or Cox broadband services. Sure it costs a LOT more to live off campus in Lawrence, but, if you want to do things like distribute other people's music, that is a choice you have to make. Of course, with the money you save by living on campus, you could buy the media you want and use your computer for classwork instead.
  • by AuMatar ( 183847 ) on Friday July 27, 2007 @03:17PM (#20014907)
    Well, you proved you aren't a lawyer here. There is a standard way to get the IP->name mapping. Its called a court order. You go before a judge, show your evidence, and if the judge agrees there's merit in the case they will order the university to hand the information over. Until then, the university is well within their rights to keep the information secret. If the state has any decent privacy laws, they may even be legally bound to do so.
  • by dpbsmith ( 263124 ) on Friday July 27, 2007 @03:18PM (#20014921) Homepage
    Are these sent by certified mail? Does the RIAA need proof of delivery to pursue their lawsuit successfully? Or can they just go ahead and sue, without the student getting any warning?

    All the article says is that "The University will not, however, forward students the RIAA pre-litigation letter, which gives them the opportunity to settle out of court."

    How does this help the student? That's a genuine question, not a rhetorical question. Anyone know the answer?

  • Third Time (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 27, 2007 @03:34PM (#20015155)
    Third time I've had to say this. Universities are NOT "bending over" for the RIAA. They are FORWARDING MAIL. They gave the RIAA no personal information and at least in Purdue's case said they would NOT give them that information unless there was a subpeona.

    Enough with this sensationalist "omg this university is in with the RIAA". If you ask me they are hurting their student population by not telling the students they have been targeted. That is all the other universities are doing. Telling them that there is a possibility that the RIAA will take you to court.
  • by AndersOSU ( 873247 ) on Friday July 27, 2007 @03:48PM (#20015359)
    Comcast forwarded me a letter from NBC (via email no less) for sharing The Black Donnellys. I freaked out a little, but then reread the letter and it was a C&D, not a settlement offer.

    So I've complied and haven't downloaded any more TV shows.

    Incidentally I also never watched the Black Donnellys again (it wasn't on at a great time) and I think it's since been canceled.

  • by bennini ( 800479 ) on Friday July 27, 2007 @04:08PM (#20015595) Homepage
    i posted this letter in the last story on /. regarding the RIAA but i did it a bit late (3 or 4 days after the story appeared on /.) so i dont think anyone got to read it.

    below ive appended the letter which i am sending to the RIAA.

    additionally, this recent story about the University of Kansas has inspired me to write letters to the other universities that have indeed forwarded the letters to the students -- regarding my decision to rule out all of them as places to do a PhD.

    i highly encourage all of you to send similar letters. its time people start doing something about this rather than just complaining about it on internet forums.

    --------

    Dear Sony BMG, Universal, EMI, Warner,

    I would like to inform you of my recent decision to stop purchasing music produced by your record labels.

    In the past, I was a strong supporter of the music industry, music artists and the Compact Disc technology. I regularly purchased CD albums for several reasons. First, I consider myself an audiophile and enjoy the quality of music offered by the Compact Disc format. Second, I collect music and have over 200 CDs. I often re-listen to an album many years after buying it. Third, I believe music artists should be rewarded for their hard work and skill. With respect to my favorite bands (Tool, the Cardigans and Garbage) I also believe it provides incentive for them to continue producing music. It was because of these three reasons that I generally opposed and condemned the idea of downloading music illegally. I considered myself to be, what many refer to as, the music industry's ideal customer.

    In the past few weeks, this all changed; and since your companies' prosperity in the music industry is entirely enabled by persons like myself, I would like to tell you why.

    I have grown tired of reading about the endless lawsuits and out-of-court settlement letters spewed from your companies' legal departments. I am a 25-year-old American student pursuing an MSc in Germany and find your methodology for dealing with students at American universities revolting and offensive. I also believe your companies' business model is flawed, rigid and destined to fail. Your inability to adapt to a high-quality digital distribution model (without DRM) will quickly undermine your revenue stream. There is no justification for a music CD to cost almost twice the price of a DVD movie; especially when one compares the production costs of the two.

    Today, when I walked into the local music store, I took a look at the price of a new CD release, considered buying it, then decided to go home and illegally download it instead. I will continue to act accordingly until the RIAA changes its attitude, business model and pricing scheme.

    This letter would not be justly sent without an offer to regain me as a customer. I therefore propose that you A) offer all music through iTunes DRM-free and with the option to download the files in a "lossless" format and B) reduce song prices to $0.50 per song with 50% of that going directly to the artist and the other 50% to be split at your discretion between the RIAA and Apple. Should you agree to said proposal, I will happily purchase your music again on a frequent basis and actively campaign for the RIAA amongst my social networks and on Slashdot.org.

    Sincerely,
    Benjamin P
  • True! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by tacokill ( 531275 ) on Friday July 27, 2007 @04:13PM (#20015679)
    We used to call it "The Berkley of the Midwest" back when I was there.

    Let's not forget that KU was where the student union was burnt down and classes were called early back during the Vietnam war. It was serious stuff.

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