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How SBC (AT&T) Pillaged South Africa's Economy 270

Kifoth writes "For 8 years, SBC and Telekom Malaysia controlled South Africa's only telecommunications company, Telkom. Telkom had a government granted monopoly in order for it to connect the large parts of South Africa that had been neglected under apartheid. Instead of helping, SBC abused their position and raised Telkom's prices to be among the highest in the world. The billions they made here ultimately went to fund their AT&T merger. From the article: 'SBC, described as "congenitally litigious", is said to have played a major role in the failure of South Africa's telecoms policy to develop a competitive telephone service. Under SBC's control Telkom not only failed to meet its roll-out obligations but behaved "as a tax on industry and a drag on economic growth."'"
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How SBC (AT&T) Pillaged South Africa's Economy

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  • Monopolies are bad (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26, 2007 @03:23PM (#20364213)
    This shows why monopolies are bad and a more liberal economic policy is better
  • by sethawoolley ( 1005201 ) on Sunday August 26, 2007 @03:39PM (#20364389) Homepage

    How South Africa's Government Pillaged South Africa's Economy
    It's not clear from the article that South Africa's government gained anything from this (there's a small note about (greedy) "management smarts" being imported, but it is very clear how SBC gained enormously). The headline seems quite valid unless you're a fundamentalist market libertarian that can never find fault with a corporation since it's always the government's fault.

    A public process in this arrangement, as the article points out, would have caught this and corrected it. Public governments are thus not indictable. Yes, you can indict the government for letting it happen, but the ultimate source of the problem was corporate greed that lead to the collusion of government and a corporation, where if done systematically it would be called fascism.

    Ultimately, it's still SBC's fault, despite whatever proximate causes/contributors enabled it.

  • A Monopoly (Score:5, Informative)

    by kwiqsilver ( 585008 ) on Sunday August 26, 2007 @03:52PM (#20364487)

    A company with a "government granted" monopoly abused it. Shocking!

    Incidentally, any true monopoly must be government granted. Without the government's force to keep competition away, it's merely a really effective competitor in an open market, like Wal-Mart.

    A monopoly, whether government owned (e.g. the US Post Office) or government granted (e.g. AT&T and the Baby Bells in the US, before cellphones, cable company phone service, etc.), is not required to innovate and improve to retain customers, like a free-market business is. Because of this they will tend to deliver a lower quality product at a higher price.

  • by mac1235 ( 962716 ) on Sunday August 26, 2007 @04:03PM (#20364591)
    Yeah, they should have mentions the government is the majority shareholder and got the lion's share of the profits...
  • by krou ( 1027572 ) on Sunday August 26, 2007 @04:37PM (#20364893)

    ... I have to say that Telkom is absolutely terrible. Have a look here [hellkom.co.za] for more info.

    Telkom have consistently been a stumbling block to technological progress in the country, especially with regards to internet access. Telkom owns all the international links to the rest of the world from SA, and most of the bandwidth and international calls have to be routed through them. In fact, the price of ADSL has been so prohibitive that many individuals have pursued cellular alternatives, paying per MB, for light browsing instead.

    While it's easy to criticise the private companies who have been managing it, Telkom is a parastatal, and not wholly private; roughly 39% is still owned by the South African government, so I'm fairly certain they weren't too unhappy about the affair. There has been evidence of cronyism at the company, too, most likely as a direct result of this: in 2004 a government pension fund [bbc.co.uk] was used "to buy telecoms shares for a group of former government officials". This was part of the government's Black Economic Empowerment (BEE) requirements that firms need to be 1/4 black owned before 2010, and falls within a pattern shown [csmonitor.com], by 2004 government surveys, that "68 percent of BEE deals went to just 6 black-owned businesses, all of which were owned by top members of the ANC party."

    The whole thing stinks, and Saffas get screwed, as usual.

  • by a11 ( 716827 ) on Sunday August 26, 2007 @05:38PM (#20365435)
    did what a capitalistic company has to do, it maximized its profit by raising the prices

    thinking like that is one of the big problem I see that allows shit like this to happen. This thing called "company" you speak of does not "do" anything. it is something virtual, the point of which is to maximize profit, but no, not by raising prices. it is to charge the maximum it can for the demand. for services such as in this case, demand is close to inelastic, and competition, in an "actual" capitalistic market, would prevent this service from being actualized till supply is much cheaper. Once the government steps in and takes the competition away, hence creating an artificial supply curve, it is the government's job to dictate the prices, as we are no longer talking about capitalism. The government needs to set the supply curve if they chose to take away what brings supply lower - hence taking away the capitalism.

    This is not at all capitalism. it is a capitalistic company allowed to roam free in a non-capitalist scenario. The people working for this company allowed to roam free are under contract to not steal from it's customers. It is the government's job to monitor this, if they take away competition, a vital part of capitalism. Those people broke the contract in an enron kind of way. It is the job of the government to take these people, who committed a criminal breach of contract. Forcibly the money back from from the "company" that stole it, refunding the people who were victims of criminal theft. Then prosecute the actual people that made the breach of contract decisions, and prosecute them for theft of billions of dollars. Prosecute them the same way as if they were to go into a bank and steal that amount. And revoke the company's license to exist as a company (within that country's jurisdiction).
  • Re:Hmm... (Score:4, Informative)

    by iCEBaLM ( 34905 ) on Sunday August 26, 2007 @07:05PM (#20366155)
    Golden Rule ... The ppl with all the money make the rules, or in this case break them.

    Man, how do you screw up the golden rule? "He who has the gold, makes the rules."
  • by localman ( 111171 ) on Sunday August 26, 2007 @08:51PM (#20366841) Homepage
    I just spent some time working in the disadvantaged areas of South Africa, and so I've formed a bit of affection for the nation and its people. While on the face of it I think anyone messing with these developing nations as they try to get their footing is about a pure definition of evil as can be had, I'm not aware how much this one matters. I mean, fsck SBC -- of all the people I met in South Africa, not a one of the blacks had a home phone line. But on the other hand they did all have cell phones. Vodacom and MTN were the major players, and had achieved amazing penetration -- on par with US cell phone penetration, but in an area where people still live 3 generations in a tiny 2 bedroom home.

    The only serious downside to having no landlines was a lack of internet connectivity -- nothing fills the early internet dialup niche: there's no flat-fee land line plans, and cell phone internet access is fairly expensive (though cheaper than in the US, I believe). So very few people are connected to the internet if they're lucky enough to have a computer. That is unfortunate. But in the end the people I met are not seriously hampered by the situation. They're amazingly adaptable, cheerful, and texting like crazy :)

    Anyways; good luck to SA. I hope to go again some day.
  • by hcjiv ( 870737 ) on Monday August 27, 2007 @12:37AM (#20368231)

    It's capitalism at its best. Remember, Laissez-faire Manchester type capitalism is just one flavour of capitalism. And by far not the most frequent one.

    Except capitalism, at least as defined by Webster, specifically includes competition in a free market. This is a case of a government mandated monoply which is NOT capitalism by definition.

    Webster: "an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market"

  • I would like to point out that very little, if any road building projects in the USA get built with funds coming from income taxes. Federal fuel taxes are about 30 cents per gallon, with strong proposals to raise this significantly higher. State taxes are mostly 30-50 cents per gallon on top of that.

    Indeed, I would dare say that for most states it tends to be an income generation tool where fuel taxes are spent on many things well beyond just highways and rest stops. And there is more food for thought here:

    Income taxes in many states are restricted on what they can be spent upon as well (although federal income taxes do go into the the general appropriations funds). Utah, to give an example of a state I'm familiar with, has constitionally required that all income generated by income taxes be spent exclusively on educational related activities alone. It is fun during times when funds are getting short to see how the legislature deals with the relatively steady revenue coming from income taxes and the temptation they have to try and subvert the constitution to use the funds for other purposes. Fortunately that takes a state-wide referendum, which the voters of Utah have shown to frequently vote contrary to the general wishes of the legislature.

    The point being here that your basic premise of income taxes being used for construction of highways is certainly not valid, and George W. won't care about this "change" because it is the way federal taxes are currently structured. The main issue that comes up each year is how Congress will chop up the funds generated nationwide. That is billions of dollars, and the President has very little if any real say over how that happens. Most of the time it takes a fairy god-senator to get funds to a specific state, and some strong representation in the House.

    As far as shifting the tax structure, I've seen several rather interesting concepts, including some basically revenue-neutral methods of eliminating income taxes with what amounts to be something like a national sales tax on goods and services.

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