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The Fall Geek TV Lineup 318

An anonymous reader writes "Wired has an article looking at this Fall's bumper crop of geek TV. McG, who directed the pilot for the show Chuck, opines that the appearance of nerd culture on network television is a long-overdue reflection of real life. From the article: 'Hollywood, he said, is playing catch-up with IT culture. "The classic shape of the computer geek is over when Bill Gates became the (richest), most aspirational, coolest guy in the world," he said. "He is the original thick-glasses, pocket-protector guy. Now who doesn't want to be like Bill Gates?"' They have reviews of the lengthy list of shows, for clues as to what to watch and what to miss."
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The Fall Geek TV Lineup

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  • Uneven Shows (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Brazilian Geek ( 25299 ) on Monday September 24, 2007 @07:59AM (#20727075) Journal
    I watched a few of the leaked shows that they reviewed (don't you love the Internets?) so I'll comment on them.

    Chuck: Fun like Burn Notice and Psych but not very nerdy. It's got the nerd culture in it, the socially inept folks and close friendships get good grades from me. However, some parts are very poorly executed: magical images that contain steganography that the brain decodes, an HD explodes from a 4' drop inside the case and a few others that fell flat to me. Oh, it's got Jayne so that's a plus.

    Big Bang Theory: Imagine, as someone one EZTV said, Revenge of the Nerds written by mindless jocks. It's crap, crap, crap, so much crap that I was insulted by it.

    Journeyman: I thought it was an interesting story, maybe we've seen it before (Quantum Leap) but we haven't as he's not leaping into other people nor is he shifting into the distant past so I think it'll have mainstream appeal (for a few episodes at least). Disclaimer though, I like Kevin McKidd, for a guy in his early 30's he had a lot of heart in his Vorenus character.

    The IT Crowd (UK): I watch the show and I have a lot of laughs with it but I'm a sucker for UK comedies. As for geek culture, I have to say it's not perfect but it comes close. In case you've never watched it, the references are the stickers in the office, Roy's t-shirts and Moss' and Roy's personalities (they're socially challenged). I guess that it does come close as, being a practicing nerd, I'm not always talking about gadgets and geeky sites nor am I obsessed with computers and science so I guess it's more organic.
  • Re:The IT Crowd (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Scutter ( 18425 ) on Monday September 24, 2007 @08:06AM (#20727121) Journal
    The second season is doing better because it has nothing to do with IT the way the first season did, so it's got broader appeal. Oh, and what's up with their office looking like an apartment this season? It's like the producers have never seen the inside of an IT department.
  • by walterbyrd ( 182728 ) on Monday September 24, 2007 @08:28AM (#20727261)
    At least by Hollywood standards. A "nerd" can be anything from a top scientist or engineer, to somebody who owns a lot of shares in a software company, to a guy who works at bestbuy.
  • by AvitarX ( 172628 ) <me@brandywinehund r e d .org> on Monday September 24, 2007 @09:08AM (#20727647) Journal
    But I've also heard that most lottery winners end up unhappy (and often broke).

    You probably heard that most lottery winners end up feeling the same as they did before hand. After a major life-altering event for the good or the bad people will generally settle to the same level of happiness within 6 months to a year. Those that are generally happy with there life will generally maintain that happiness even if getting paralyzed in a car accident, and those who are miserable will maintain misery even after winning the lotto.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 24, 2007 @09:09AM (#20727663)
    I always thought that a nerd was highly knowledgeable about something somewhat practical, (computers, math, science) while a geek was highly knowledgeable about something less practical. (Star Trek, LOTR, D&D)
  • by DrLudicrous ( 607375 ) on Monday September 24, 2007 @09:23AM (#20727825) Homepage
    Please do not watch this show. It is utter crap. I'm a grad student in physics, and am offended by the stereotypes it portrays. Sure, I'm a geek, as evidenced by me posting here. But I also like to have fun, know how to socialize, have had many many relationships with the opposite sex that for the most part have been positive, and basically am known for my personality rather than my career choice, JUST LIKE MOST NORMAL PEOPLE. Oh, and I really hate most Star Trek related things. I did enjoy (but am not a psychotic fan of) the original series (more for its campiness and originality), as well as the 2nd-4th movies. And I like Star Wars, just like any other red-blooded American male who was a little kid in the early 1980's. But that's it. Also, I love sports. Especially baseball, which for some reason seems to be common among physicists (maybe it's all those statistics). Put me in a bar on a fall Saturday or Sunday with football on the TV and I'm happy. Why can't physicists be portrayed for what we really are, which is normal people who happen to do physics? Look at Einstein! Witty, charismatic, and womanizer! Now that's a physicist!
  • by Phaid ( 938 ) on Monday September 24, 2007 @10:39AM (#20728765) Homepage
    You are absolutely right about House being for geeks/nerds/whatever. The "Fall Geek TV Lineup" article confuses the type of TV that IT types actually like with TV that makes fun of IT types. Chuck is the former, House is clearly the latter.

    The difference is that House isn't about "geeks", it's simply about competent smart people. Shows about "geeks" are never about competent smart people, they're gimmicks built around a stupid stereotype. The few TV shows in which computer types are portrayed positively tend not to have them as central characters, and then they are usually hot chicks (I'm thinking here of "Las Vegas" and "Standoff", both of which feature very attractive female hacker types in secondary / support character roles). I'm all for hot chick computer types, but can't we ever have male hackers who are not either socially incompetent, evil, or both?
  • Re:Uneven Shows (Score:3, Interesting)

    by owlnation ( 858981 ) on Monday September 24, 2007 @11:04AM (#20729167)
    I watched the leaked copies too. My opinion for what it's worth.

    • Chuck -- looks great, the pilot had me interested in seeing how the characters develop.
    • Big Bang Theory -- if this makes it beyond 6 episodes I'll be astonished. It's the same old tired 4 camera sitcom format, with a slight geek twist. The the format is very wrong. Do it single camera and maybe...
    • Journeyman -- I'll not be watching that again. My guess is it makes it to either a mid season or one full season before getting axed. It has all the charisma and writing grace of Jericho. Which probably means there will be rabid minority cult following.
    • The IT Crowd -- Being British I fail to understand why anyone in the US likes UK comedies. This one is the perfect example - underwritten, overacted, lousy camera work, cheap sets, and directed with sledgehammer blows. The concept is great, the execution more painful that that of Marie Antoinette. I know the US one has already been canceled, but I do hope it was better -- the US versions usually are (see The Office for proof of concept). You usually have to have talent to get on TV in the US, you just have to know the right people in the UK. (I have worked in UK TV, I speak from experience)
    • Bionic Woman - the remake makes the original look slick and deeply artistic. God awful acting. God awful writing. despite what I said above, there sometimes are people with no talent on US TV. Here's one of those times. It will be huge success I'm sure. It's as shallow as it gets though. Not geek fayre at all -- pure mainstream.
    • The Sarah Connor Chronicles - Not sure about the actor who plays Sarah Connor, however the rest of the show is great. Summer is perfect as a Terminatrix.
    • Pushing Up Daises -- I want to see all the episodes of this right now. This looks wonderful. Very original design and script. I think I'm going to love it. It'll probably get canceled after one season -- it's far too intelligent to make it beyond that. A cult classic though.
  • Dennou Coil (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Joe Tie. ( 567096 ) on Monday September 24, 2007 @11:50AM (#20729819)
    If you don't mind anime, dennou coil is also a really well done look at some geeky subjects. In particular, it's one of the most fun looks at augmented reality that I've ever seen. All the characters wear glasses that superimpose information into the environment around them, and the plausibility of a lot of it makes the show really entertaining. Sure, there's a lot of fantasy mixed in from the start, and it increases by quite a bit later into the series. But even with that it's the most enjoyment I've ever had from fictional looks into augmented reality. Well, aside from Rainbow's End, it's the only one that wasn't a quick one shot.

    And I did like Rainbow's End, but it didn't hook me on the concept of AR like Dennou Coil has. Rainbow's End showed why the concept would be useful, Dennou Coil showed how it could turn the world into a giant game. I mean cubes of water floating in the sky? I would love to be walking along, look up, and see a digital fish flying around.
  • by Joe Tie. ( 567096 ) on Monday September 24, 2007 @12:08PM (#20730063)
    If you think the picture of "geek chic" in mainstream media is going to transcend that stereotype, you're in for a disappointment.

    In particular because one has to really work hard to get a solid grasp of any science, and most people just aren't into the subject enough to do so. Especially at an age where the knowledge would really sink in and be most applicable to their everyday life. The result is a culture where almost everyone is surrounded by sciences and technologies they don't understand, feel a constant stream of intimidation as a result of, and really, really, want a reason to superior to the people who do. I think it's one of the driving factors for alternative medicine as well, "Those doctors, with their books. My mothers gut feeling is going to make a far better diagnosis!". Humans, as a rule, don't like feeling powerless to change their environment. And, increasingly, that's becoming the norm for all of us. It's not too surprising to find ill-will directed at people perceived to have more freedom to do so.
  • by Cold-NiTe ( 968026 ) on Monday September 24, 2007 @12:31PM (#20730367)
    "t used to be that 'geek' meant 'reject', now it means 'smart, technically inclined person who is likely to be rich and/or interesting'."

    No, it used to mean that you bit the heads off of chickens at the carnival for a living. I don't care if you don't believe me, but that is the true origin of the word. As for what it means now, it essentially amounts to "You've been given a 'negative' societal label based on assumed differences between you and 'the average'." Thanks, I'll take that difference with pleasure. You don't even WANT to know the statistical averages for education, wages, IQ, etc. in this country. I'll take being ostracized along with fellow 'geeks' over that alternative any day of the week.

    So sure, they can sit in front of their tv sets and laugh all they want. We'll even be laughing with the poor bastards. The only difference happens to be the most important one of them all; they laugh in terrible ignorance, we laugh in wondrous comprehension.

    Ahh once again Meriam-Webster & Wikipedia come through for me, look at those last two definitions for Geek; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geek [wikipedia.org]. Just proves what I already figured. They may have created the stereotype, but in the end, we decide the definition. Praise to the 'Geeks' who wrote the Webster definitions and the Wikipedia article.
  • Placing my bets... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by HTH NE1 ( 675604 ) on Monday September 24, 2007 @02:56PM (#20732769)
    This season I'm placing my bets early on what shows will not only get canceled but also never make it to DVD. These will be the shows I'll be capturing to my computer using an HD cable box and Firewire. Anything that's made it past its first season and/or had that season published on DVD (or and especially HD-DVD or BluRay like Heroes) I won't bother to record.

    I'm betting that "The Big Bang Theory" will either be canceled quickly or otherwise never make it past one season. The biggest strain to credibility in this sitcom is the studio audience knowing enough quantum physics to get the jokes and laugh that loudly at them. I've seen the pilot.

    Also, like the TV series Ferris Bueller, I expect The Sarah Connor Chronicles to fall... but not as hard. Maybe more like the series Starman, or Tracker [imdb.com]. I understand the characterizations already break with continuity. Coming in mid-season is an established "Lack of Confidence"-labeled nail in its coffin.

    I think Reaper may have a chance, or at least make for an entertaining one-season run. Tyler Labine continues to amaze me in finding good and steady work after portraying the delusional Croker in Evil Alien Overlords [imdb.com], but so far it was the only bad thing I've seen him in. Still, it seemed he was having fun doing it.

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