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In The US, Email Is Only For Old People 383

lxw56 writes "Two years after Slashdot discussed the theory that Korean young people were rejecting email, an article at the Slate site written by Chad Lorenz comes to the same conclusion about the United States. 'Those of us older than 25 can't imagine a life without e-mail. For the Facebook generation, it's hard to imagine a life of only e-mail, much less a life before it. I can still remember the proud moment in 1996 when I sent my first e-mail from the college computer lab. It felt like sending a postcard from the future. I was getting a glimpse of how the Internet would change everything--nothing could be faster and easier than e-mail.'"
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In The US, Email Is Only For Old People

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  • Damn, I'm old. (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 17, 2007 @11:50PM (#21394865)
    My first email was sent through Fidonet. The always connected "Internet" was unaffordable back then.
  • by djupedal ( 584558 ) on Sunday November 18, 2007 @02:53AM (#21395693)
    "When they finally get a real job they'll find that email is MUCH more pervasive than the other stuff."

    Eh? Is there no one under 30 in your office?

    The country where I live/work has the highest concentration of English speakers in the world. This should make it some kind of reliable reference on the topic of modern communication. The office staffers all use email sure, but the youngsters read it when they feel like it, and compose/send when they need to - however, IM, by far, is what they really use to communicate. And I mean constantly. Partly because most can't feel like they appear to be working if they have a cellphone in their ear. Oh, they're busy communicating with their cells alright - using SMS. But that's one-on-one, with a restrictively tiny keyboard. IM is groups. Meta-groups from other countries and small focus groups on different floors. Incessant, rapid chatter that makes no noise other than the clicks from the keyboard. Multiple-mind dumps that dart and flash like hungry steelhead in clear, fast moving coldddddduh water.

    Go ahead - send one of them an email. See how long it takes before they read it, much less respond. Maybe if you call them on their cell. No answer? Send an SMS. Still no reaction? If you want a reply now, you're going to have to learn how to swim out where the current runs fast, with the young schools, because old school is floating down river with the current, whether we realize it, like it, or not.

    Where do I live/work? That would be southern China...
  • Re:The other side... (Score:1, Informative)

    by tokul ( 682258 ) on Sunday November 18, 2007 @05:47AM (#21396261)

    Athlon XP 2600+ used 20 watts because it was fanless and it was running closer to 1000+.

    Only underclocked Athlons XP and Athlons XP-M use less than 25W.

  • by Eivind ( 15695 ) <eivindorama@gmail.com> on Sunday November 18, 2007 @06:21AM (#21396381) Homepage
    I think it's perfectly OK for the boss to call me on my cellphone. IF it really is very important. My boss agreed. So, we agreed upon it this way:

    He has my number. He can call me whenever he wants. When he does, he pays for a minimum of 3 hours, at overtime rates, even if it's something as simple as for me to answer a question. The rationale ? If it isn't worth 3 hours of overtime pay to him, then it obviously isn't -important-, in that case he should just wait until I arrive at work and discuss it with me then.

    Works fine. I guess your mileage will depend on your boss. Some bosses will surely be the opinion that just because they get to disturb you, shouldn't mean they need to actually -compensate- you for it. (and no: 15 minutes of extra pay is -NOT- adequate compensation for having -private- time invaded by work, even if the intrusion lasts only 15 minutes)
  • by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) on Sunday November 18, 2007 @08:29AM (#21396881) Journal
    All of the features you request are part of the XMPP standard, although client support varies. Most support message archiving (it was one of the first things I implemented in mine; I hate not being able to search a conversation history, I wish I could with telephones and IRL discussions) and there are components available for server-side logging (which you may be required to run by law if you are using IM for business correspondence). Forwarding, multiple recipients and BCC are supported by XEP-0033 [xmpp.org].
  • by cshotton ( 46965 ) on Sunday November 18, 2007 @08:44AM (#21396931) Homepage
    I think this comparison is fallacious. The difference between some younger than 25 using a more instant form of communication and those older than 25 using something more "archaic" like e-mail likely has more to do with the nature of their communications required by their current role in society and the workplace than anything to do with the fact that one mode is better than the other. When the kiddies grow up and understand that having a persistent, searchable, ubiquitous, reliable repository of communications with their peers, co-workers, and family is actually valuable, I think we'll see them shift their communications tool of preference. There is so much you cannot do with an IM style message in a corporate environment -- send attachments, search the past 5 years of messages, access the same message base from dozens of different device types and locations, etc. -- that e-mail will never be outpaced as a business communication tool by the current crop of IM tools and social networks.

    And as a social tool, IMs match the attention span of the users. Sure, it's fun to play with Twitter and I have daily dialogs via SMS. But I am not going to write a note to a family member about a significant issue using AIM, nor am I going to discuss terms of a legal deal, send a 500 source file archive, or use SMS to read a 50 thread mailing list.

    I think a more interesting study would be to follow a sub-25 year old Internet user for 10 years and see how their communications tool usage changes. That has some intrinsic value. This "study" has none. It's like saying lots of little kids play with Legos while only a handful of adults do, so therefore Legos are the wave of the future.
  • Multiple-mind dumps that dart and flash like hungry steelhead in clear, fast moving coldddddduh water.

    Please. Incessant IMing and SMSing by younger folks is just the contemporary equivalent of teens trying up the phone line with content-free communication. As Leary and Wilson put it [wordpress.com], "Most human communication is embarrassingly primitive, consisting of endless variations on `I'm still here. Are you still there?' (hive solidarity) and `Nothing has really changed' (hive business as usual)." The young need more of this reassurance as they try to figure out their status in the pack; us older folks have settled in.

    (Though thanks to hands-free headsets unlimited talk time, I note plenty of older people who can't STFU and pay attention to the world around them. I swear one day I'm going to smack someone who keeps jabbering on the phone as they go through the supermarket checkout line and never acknowledges the cashier with so much as a hello.)

    IM is slightly more useful than e-mail in a handful of cases, but most of what passes over it is just hive buzz. As for SMS, it's great that it's displacing annoying cell-phone use -at least it's quieter - but let's not romanticize it.

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