RIAA Writes Its Own News For Local TV 282
I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "Did your local news recently do a two-minute clip on music copyright infringement? If so, you can thank the RIAA. They sent out a video press release to local news stations as part of their 'holiday anti-piracy campaign.' In it, they warn people that the best way to avoid counterfeit music is to avoid 'compilation CDs that could only exist in the dreams of a music fan' and to trust their ears, because illegally copied music usually sounds 'atrocious.' Instead, they encourage watchers to buy ringtones for Christmas."
who needs RIAA music? (Score:5, Insightful)
is to listen to music made by independents who freely share their creations on the Internet often under Creative Commons, and reject any music made by people who are associated with big labels or the RIAA.
Assholes (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah, they really convinced me, I'm buying ringtones from now on, people.
Disparity (Score:5, Insightful)
So what are they saying here? They know exactly what their fans "dream" about and they aren't selling that? Why not? What possible sense could it make to refrain from selling their target audience the products for which there is maximal demand?
Pirated music sounds atrocious? If so why is it so popular?
Atrocious?? (Score:5, Insightful)
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What? (Score:5, Insightful)
Gvie the people what they want (Score:5, Insightful)
avoid 'compilation CDs that could only exist in the dreams of a music fan'
Why aren't these compilations legally available?
If they recognize it is in the "dreams" of their customers, why not give the people what they want?
I used to DJ as a hobby and am proud to say my mixtapes were a big hit among friends. These compilations were fun to make, fun to listen to, and got people exposed to some music they otherwise would've missed or ignored.
The recording industry, the labels, the RIAA, even many of today's "artists" are completely out of touch with their fans and customers. It is stunning and sad.
Wow, I suggest watching the movie. . . (Score:5, Insightful)
Most of all I'm just sick of all the time the RIAA is wasting on this, I think it's quite inevitable that this propaganda won't do anything, I hope they know it too. VHS, cassette tapes. .
Re:Assholes (Score:3, Insightful)
Huh (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, all *my* illegally copied music sounds just fine.
And I'd sooner go back to wax cylinders and magnetic wires than give them another fucking penny, so find a different tree to bark up, RIAA.
Hey, I just noticed you can't spell "a pirate" without RIAA! Yeah, I'm kinda slow.
Re:So, stop bitching (Score:5, Insightful)
Hmm, you have flawed logic in there.
Why fight to listen to something that is of low quality anyway
Actually, there's some good groups in RIAA associated groups. Granted it's not as easy to find as it once was, but it exists.
Independents make better music because they love what they do!
Heh, I like to sing. I can guarantee you don't want to hear me sing. Liking, even loving to do something, doesn't mean you are good at it. So far, most of the independent music I've hear around here sucks horribly, and most even comes out worse than the bottom of the barrel in the RIAA crowd. The last set I went to was horrible. Only one group had potential, then the lead singer opened his mouth and started spewing the most retarded lyrics I have ever heard, with one of the worst singing (shouting?) voices I had ever heard.
Re:Of course! (Score:2, Insightful)
Any sufficiently advanced malice is indistinguishable from incompetence.
Re:Unbiased News Sources (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Assholes (Score:5, Insightful)
So these customers have to turn to piracy to get what they want.
Re:So, stop bitching (Score:2, Insightful)
They're saying "if it's good it must be pirate!" (Score:5, Insightful)
Buyers should be looking for the bad, expensive CDs with only one good track on them. That's the only way to ensure an officially sanctioned product.
Re:Ringtones? (Score:4, Insightful)
Market Failure (Score:5, Insightful)
Ignoring the whole issue of fair use here...
Re:Disparity (Score:3, Insightful)
Obviously, I must not be a music fan, then. Everything I listen to voluntarily sounds pretty darned good :)
Re:Assholes (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Of course! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:cts's holiday guide to ripping off the riaahole (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:So, stop bitching (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:So, stop bitching (Score:2, Insightful)
Let them squeeze.
The more you tighten your grip, RIAA, the more customers will slip through your fingers.
Re:They're saying "if it's good it must be pirate! (Score:3, Insightful)
Yes, and that's true. Once again this Christmas I'll be looking forward to the compilation CDs the kids make most of all. At least they put some personal time and thought into it instead of just going and buying some crap, and I know it won't be laden with malware.
Phew! I'm safe! (Score:3, Insightful)
Thank god! My dream compilation CD's all sound great, so they must not be illegal copies. Thank goodness for bad logic!
Re:Atrocious?? (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't know about you, but there are few things more hellish and foul than a 30-second clip of a song encoded at 64kbps playing through a mobile phone speaker.
Maybe the loud, obnoxious, personal conversation that follows?Re:who needs RIAA music? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Disparity (Score:3, Insightful)
And sometimes they just want to sell box sets.
Re:Disparity (Score:3, Insightful)
"You get what you pay for"
"Watch for compilation CDs that could only exist in the dreams of a music fan"
So... um... a wicked compilation that's cheap... or a sucky CD that's expensive... You know, I thought "You get what you pay for" meant something different, but I'm glad to know I can stop overpaying for stuff now.
Re:Of course! (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Disparity (Score:2, Insightful)
Because the part that makes this a dream only is the reasonable price.
Re:who needs RIAA music? (Score:3, Insightful)
So I should base my choice in music based solely off of how it's distributed?
No, you must take a more holistic view encompassing lots of variables... you should find all that matters to you about music, such as distribution, quality, lyrics, medium (CD, mp3, ogg, stream, etc), ... then decide how important each parameter is for you, and use all parameters in your evaluation, not just one. I maintain however that some parameters are worthy of much more consideration than currently enjoy by most people.
More specifically, people nowadays would even buy or listen to music created by Hitler or bin Laden if it were good. But music is a kind of communication, and you should take into account who created each piece of music and why. You should prefer to listen to music created by ethical people who respect you (and this respect is shown with a licence such as Creative Commons).
If people were willing to make that kind of sacrifice
If people were willing to make that kind of intelligent choices and stick to them they would be free. Because they aren't, other people enslave them in various ways (of variable ethical acceptance).
However just because the other people aren't willing to take such choices, it doesn't mean that you should also not do so. People must be individuals, not cattle following one another.
I personally pick the bands I like based on how good they are.
How do you define good? Is music created by people who don't respect their audience good?
I once knew a band... they went to a big record company and gave them their music to listen... the manager then told them "kids, you are good, but this music won't sell as it is - if you change it in such and such way we can discuss a contract". The band disagreed and told all their friends how bad the big companies are. They don't just select the good bands, they actively force the bands to change their music. They don't let them just create anything they want the way they want it, they tell them "your music must be louder" or "your music must have more beat". This destroys the art in the music.
Music is a kind of communication... the musician communicates their inner emotions and mind states to you through the music. If someone communicates with you in order to make you pay that's not art. If they communicate what they really want to express, then this is art. Many people today think that buying an audio CD means buying something to listen to and feel happy. That's not music, that's sound... it may make people feel happy but it isn't true art. Music is an art and expression, it allows people communicate emotions and mind states, and it isn't something you can change to make it more popular.
If you listen to an audio CD produced by a person who signed a contract with a megacorp and they let them tell them how to make their music more "saleable", then you don't listen to music (expression), you listen to some sounds designed to make you feel happy. If that's what you want to listen to, then it's okay. But please call it sound, not music. If, however, you want to listen to true music in the sense that you want to be the recipient of the expression of the emotional mind state of the musician, then you should listen to music produced by people who express exactly what they feel without changing it to suit the audience. These people are the independents, either on the Internet or offline. Most of them give their music (their communication) to you for no payment, often under free licences such as Creative Commons. A few of them may not know some technical aspects of music creation, but overall their music is better and more genuine since it is produced with love.
And although most independents make their music freely available, there is nothing wrong with making money in some way as well. I don't say that all music should be gratis (no pay). I say that it is more human and more genuine to g
Re:who needs RIAA music? (Score:2, Insightful)