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Steve Fossett Declared Dead 221

Parallax Blue writes "Millionaire adventurer Steve Fossett, who risked his life seeking to set records in high-tech balloons, gliders and jets, was declared dead Friday, 5 months after he vanished while flying in an ordinary small plane. The self-made business tycoon, who in 2002 became the first person to circle the world solo in a balloon, was last seen Sept. 3 after taking off in a single-engine plane from an airstrip near Yerington, Nev., heading toward Bishop, Calif. He was 63."
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Steve Fossett Declared Dead

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  • by saibot834 ( 1061528 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @01:47PM (#22446330)
    Steve Fossett has been missing for 5 months and his chances of survival are very close to zero. It must be a huge psychological stress waiting for your probable-dead husband, so I really can understand that his wife wanted to put a stop to this uncertainty. Sure, it's just something bureaucratic, but now everyone can say that Steve Fossett is dead, instead of just thinking it.
  • Re:Faked death (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16, 2008 @01:47PM (#22446334)
    What is to benefit from faking a death when one already has money? I think other reasons perhaps.

  • by ScrewMaster ( 602015 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @01:52PM (#22446360)
    A sub-par small plane?

    Well, I'd say there's a pretty good chance it was a sub-par model, all things considered.
  • OK That's it (Score:5, Insightful)

    by bperkins ( 12056 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @02:10PM (#22446480) Homepage Journal
    How do we shut off tags?

    Right under this story I see a tag of "whogivesafuck."

    That's just not acceptable.

  • Re:OK That's it (Score:2, Insightful)

    by PommeFritz ( 70221 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @02:14PM (#22446502) Homepage
    I second that. Made me sick in my stomach
  • by Vellmont ( 569020 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @02:15PM (#22446506) Homepage

    This is no tragedy; we should be celebrating this man's life.

    A billionaire who spent his billions on hot air balloon rides, and trying to fly around the world?

    Sorry, I just don't see much worth celebrating. I'm sure he loved it, and great for him and all. But I don't find what he did or accomplished terribly noteworthy or important.
  • Re:OK That's it (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16, 2008 @02:22PM (#22446546)
    Why not? Honestly, who does give a fuck? Presumably Fossett's family and friends, but Slashdot readers are presumably generally neither. He was a businessman, and not one who changed our culture (either as techies or as people in general). My condolences to his family and friends, but as far as the general Slashdot readership is concerned, his death simply does not matter.
  • Re:OK That's it (Score:5, Insightful)

    by thewils ( 463314 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @02:26PM (#22446572) Journal
    No man is an island, entire of itself
    every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main
    if a clod be washed away by the sea,
    Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were,
    as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were
    any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind
    and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls
    it tolls for thee.

    -- John Donne
  • by Anoraknid the Sartor ( 9334 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @02:29PM (#22446590)
    Was Fosset known to you personally? If so - what on earth are you doing demanding sympathy on slashdot?

    I have no particular emotional involvement in the man's life or death - and nor do many others. That isn't to say I would have wished him ill - I just don't see why I should care. He seemed to have enjoyed life - good for him. This is just the judicial declaration of something that most people assumed long ago.

    And if the death of someone I loved was reported on Slashdot, "who gives a fuck" would be an entirely appropriate tag.

    More than that - it would be rather creepy if you DID give a fuck. Displays of public grief for people we do not know, but with whom we pretend an intimacy to which we are not really entitled are distasteful and should always be challenged.

    I did not tag the article. That said, without wishing Fosset either well, or ill, but just on general principals that this is someone who I did not know, reports of the judicial declaration of death of whom are cluttering up Slashdot, I echo the tag: "Whogivesafuck?"
  • by EridanMan ( 929065 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @02:30PM (#22446596)
    The other day I was reading about the littany of Mr. Fossett's achievements. In an age where records are set and fall with each of our ephemeral 15 minutes of fame, Mr. Fossett managed to do something truly extraordinary: become a legend. The moment Fossett vanished, I was in the air in my Cherokee not 100nm from his departure field. It was a mundane day of flying, if any day spent rattling around two miles in the air in an over-sized beer-can pulled by a 1920's tractor motor over the least hospitable terrain in the lower-48 can be called 'mundane'. The Nevada desert has an amazing way of making a man seem both profoundly alone and free, regardless of the technology within he wraps himself. That day of flying will forever be seared into my mind. In a world of mundane, Steve Fossett successfully made the transition from mere mortal to legend. His records and legacy stand so tall that the stories of his achievements will inspire my children's children alongside the stories Earhart and Lindberg. And yes, while a mourn the loss of the man (and I do keep a guilty hope that he's just chilling down in the Bahama's somewhere, enjoying his retirement), It was the legendary ending to the story of legendary achievement: something to celebrate and honor, not mourn and regret. Thank you Steve Fossett. Rest In Peace, you've earned it.
  • by sir_montag ( 937262 ) <sir DOT montag AT gmail DOT com> on Saturday February 16, 2008 @02:34PM (#22446618) Homepage Journal
    Sure it's acceptable. People die. I can only know so many people personally, and the ones that I don't know personally don't matter terribly much to me. That's human nature - you can't empathize with 200 million people that you don't know, and when some of them die, why should you feel anything in particular? I suppose intellectually I have some regret that the world lost a good adventurer perhaps, but that's about it.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16, 2008 @02:37PM (#22446638)
    While I don't agree with the tag on this story, and while I don't think that there's a need to voice your opinion with a tag like that if you truly don't care, I can't say I can't understand why people might not care. About 100000 people die each day - more than one per second, as a very rough estimate. Does anyone on Slashdot - you, me, Taco, whoever - care about them? No, of course not. It's just life. And for someone who doesn't care about Fossett, his death is just life, too - another blimp on the death radar. Another statistic.

    It's still tactless to tag the story as "whogivesafuck", but the opinion as such is understandable.
  • by Just Some Guy ( 3352 ) <kirk+slashdot@strauser.com> on Saturday February 16, 2008 @02:39PM (#22446660) Homepage Journal

    people say "he died doing what he loved". No pilot loves crashing a plane.

    You're being overly literal. That's a generally accepted shorthand for "at least he was engaged in an activity he enjoyed, not rotting away in an Alzheimers ward or in the agonizing throes of cancer". Steve was definitely doing something he loved, save but for the last few minutes.

  • by Scrameustache ( 459504 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @03:03PM (#22446846) Homepage Journal

    Whoever tagged this article "whogivesafuck" should turn in their human card at the door. Sure, you may not have known this guy personally, but that tag is in really poor taste. How would you like it if after someone you knew died, someone came up to you and said "he's dead. so what?".
    It mean [yimg.com], but thousands of people die everyday, I don't know how many go missing. This guy was rich and famous, and that's why we're hearing about him, and not about all the others.

    I don't really care about him more than about anyone of the countless anonymous deaths. I didn't know him, I lost nothing when he disappeared. And I don't feel bad about it. In fact, I'm annoyed that people care more about a dead rich guy than about a hundred poor ones.
  • by nebaz ( 453974 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @03:07PM (#22446880)
    It's not the opinion that bothers me, it is the obnoxiousness. Clearly the person who wrote "whogivesafuck" cares enough to go tag the article. If they clearly didn't care, they wouldn't bother tagging the article in the first place. The opinion is not obnoxious, people die all the time, and for people you don't know, it is not surprising that you truly don't care, but tagging the article this way in a public forum is somewhat tantamount to yelling in an open forum "See me, I don't give a shit about this guy at all". Why bother? It just makes you look like a jerk.
  • by JamesP ( 688957 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @03:18PM (#22446938)
    I can guarantee you he was not loving it. I'd bet that the first emotion that he felt was anger at whatever caused the initial deviation from normal flight,

    BUT, if he managed to escape it, he surely would think it was 'unfskingomgbelievably AWESOME!!!111'

    It may be pretty cool... if you don't get hurt.

  • by wellingj ( 1030460 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @03:30PM (#22447002)
    I think he should be celebrated because he is a model of rugged individualism.
    There aren't many people like him left. One less now that he's gone.
  • by Vellmont ( 569020 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @03:42PM (#22447094) Homepage

    That's a generally accepted shorthand for "at least he was engaged in an activity he enjoyed, not rotting away in an Alzheimers ward or in the agonizing throes of cancer".

    Why is that any better? He's still dead. If you were to die from cancer, or some other long term disease, at least you die with the people around you. He died alone, in some unknown place. That's supposed to be "better"?

  • by Just Some Guy ( 3352 ) <kirk+slashdot@strauser.com> on Saturday February 16, 2008 @03:50PM (#22447142) Homepage Journal

    He died alone, in some unknown place. That's supposed to be "better"?

    My dad died alone in his front yard of a sudden, massive heart attack. We didn't get to gather around him, tell stories, and say goodbye as he faded. One day I got a call from my screaming mom, and that was it - he was dead.

    Know what? That was better. We were together while he was still alive and healthy, and his family's last memories of him are as we always knew him: strong and happy and himself. I wouldn't change that for the world, and I know inside that he wouldn't either.

    So, yeah. Steve Fossett died well.

  • by bertramwooster ( 763417 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @03:51PM (#22447158) Homepage
    It could be that he feels this is not the proper forum to offer condolences to some famous guy who many people on this forum didn't care about when he was alive. If Slashdot didn't care when he was alive, why should they when he died (although his death was a little unusual). Considering that I'd say that most people on Slashdot really don't care for Slashdot to report this and this guy feels particularly strongly. That could be why he tagged it. Its another way of saying "Why is Slashdot posting this?"
  • Re:Jim Gray (Score:3, Insightful)

    by blair1q ( 305137 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @04:05PM (#22447288) Journal
    Did Fosset have more money than Gray? Does Gray's wife have full control of Gray's assets if he's not dead? Fosset had a complicated set of assets, and probably didn't have all the backups in place for managing them. Fosset's wife was evidently not able to take control of certain things until Fosset was declared dead. No need to look for ulterior motives here. It's as simple as not wanting those things to decay to nothing due to neglect while you watch, helpless.
  • by Vellmont ( 569020 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @04:06PM (#22447296) Homepage

    Why is Fossett's wife in a rush to declare that her husband is dead?

    Because it's probably pretty hard to run an estate of a billionaire without the guy being dead. Even billionaires have bills to pay.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16, 2008 @04:07PM (#22447300)
    Too right, brother!

    If someone dies from an OD of recreational drugs, do you go around saying he was "doing what he loved"?

    For all we know he could have been bitterly upset about something, made a mistake, and got himself killed.

    Given a choice, I think he would have loved coming out alive.
  • Re:Jim Gray (Score:5, Insightful)

    by magarity ( 164372 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @04:10PM (#22447330)
    Why is Fossett's wife in a rush to declare that her husband is dead?
     
    5 months is hardly 'in a rush' - remember with Fosset there are billions on the line and political and legal positioning to grab a slice of it will just pile up more and more the longer she waits. She's doing what needs to be done to protect the estate, as callous as that sounds but it needs to be done. One assumes someone who lives dangerously and has so much money like Fosset has left a will but greedy relatives and business partners can chew it all up in legal bills rather than whatever it was Fosset wanted done with his assets after he was gone.
  • by aztektum ( 170569 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @04:29PM (#22447478)
    Depends on the person. From his exploits, Steve Fossett didn't seem like the type of person that, if you asked, would be too keen on slipping away while probably in pain the entire time.
  • Re:OK That's it (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Vellmont ( 569020 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @05:02PM (#22447714) Homepage

    As an adventurer, a go-getter, a risk-taker, he inspires us to live.

    Ballooning and flying long distances in a plane inspires you to live? I find that kind of sad. I don't need inspiration to live, do you?

    The only people that really inspire me are anyone that's tried to change the world for the better. Hell, even Bill Gates is using his billions to do that. This guy has used to his billions for his own pleasure. There's nothing wrong with that, I guess. But I just don't understand why it's so inspiring, or great, or whatever. He's just participating in a giant pissing contest about who can do thing X longer, faster, or bigger.

    Evel Knievel did the same thing. I didn't see his death announced on slashdot, and he was a hell of a lot more popular for more years than Fossett.
  • Re:OK That's it (Score:4, Insightful)

    by drew30319 ( 828970 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @07:23PM (#22448668) Homepage Journal
    Yesterday was the two-year anniversary of my only child's murder.

    Within days of my daughter's murder somebody posted a message to me on a public forum stating "that bitch got popped."

    Do I think that this person literally thought of my daughter as a "bitch?" No, but I do think that the opportunity to feel empowered by pissing me off was hard for them to resist. Unfortunately a lot of people are pricks and if there's the chance that they can appear to be some cool badass by showing how much of a prick they are then they'll jump at it.

    Do I truly care about Steve Fossett's death? No, I didn't know him and frankly have far more to worry about. But do I have a sense of decorum when it comes to appreciating the pain that his friends and family are going through? Absolutely - and this wasn't a revelation I arrived at while I grieve but rather my basic human ability to empathize for others.

    But then again I have many ways to feel personally empowered without needing to resort to "whogivesafuck" tagging.

    And - I'm not a prick.

    Drew Crecente
    Director, Jennifer Ann's Group
    http://www.jenniferann.org/ [jenniferann.org]

    Fight Teen Dating Violence!

  • by DerekLyons ( 302214 ) <fairwater@@@gmail...com> on Saturday February 16, 2008 @07:24PM (#22448684) Homepage
    Not just psychological stress - but a huge legal stress as well. She very likely can't deposit any checks made out to him, she can't file taxes... The companies he owns/operates are in limbo... etc... etc...
  • You're obviously (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16, 2008 @08:01PM (#22448920)
    haven't known someone who died very slowly and very painfully. Many many people die that way.
  • by moosesocks ( 264553 ) on Saturday February 16, 2008 @11:58PM (#22450188) Homepage
    It certainly adds to the mystique for such an absolute legend of a man to disappear into the wilderness to never be seen or heard from again, leaving absolutely no trace behind.

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