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Video Games Are Launching Rock-n-Roll Careers 171

jillduffy writes "Steve Schnur, a high-level music exec at Electronic Arts, talks about how video games are launching the careers of top musical artists these days. Some of his examples: 'Avril Lavigne was first introduced to European audiences through FIFA 2003. Fabolous was first introduced in America via NBA Live, and went on to sell over 2 million albums here. JET got their American iPod commercial based on exposure in Madden 2004. Avenged Sevenfold were an unsigned act when we featured them in Madden 2004...' Schnur explains how the phenomenon is made possible by the new generation of media junkies, who feel a song becomes real when they 'play it.'"
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Video Games Are Launching Rock-n-Roll Careers

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  • WHAT??? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by zappepcs ( 820751 ) on Sunday March 09, 2008 @03:19PM (#22693920) Journal
    You mean to tell me that the RIAA are NOT the only ones who launch big music careers?

    Somebody better tell them quick, surely this means the end of their business model?

    http://www.riaaradar.com/ [riaaradar.com] is a place to look for other artists that are not associated with the RIAA if you are interested.
  • Spokesmodel (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Doc Ruby ( 173196 ) on Sunday March 09, 2008 @03:23PM (#22693958) Homepage Journal
    That's not "rock & roll". That's pop drivel, that's not even primarily a music product. It's primarily a video product. The music is manufactured as a prop in a photoshoot for some model to sell units of some crap no one will like after the marketing push is done.

    Notice how none of this crap stays in anyone's playlists or even radio stations a few years after it's new? Because it doesn't speak to, or for, anything real. It speaks to some manufactured hype of the moment. Which is all it can, because the artists are commercial artists.

    That's not "rock & roll". That's corporate rock. The same manufactured pop that real rock & roll, from real people, chased from the charts back when it was real.
  • Re:I agree (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 09, 2008 @03:33PM (#22694020)

    Nearly all the music I have (that was made in this decade or the previous) has come from video games.
    That is most likely an indication of video games being the only way you're introduced to new artists and genres.
  • by Achromatic1978 ( 916097 ) <robert&chromablue,net> on Sunday March 09, 2008 @03:57PM (#22694156)
    What crap. JET got their exposure due to Madden 2004?

    Or to being a multi charting Australian Top 10 act?

    Sorry, Occam's Razor ain't on the EA games' side, on that one.

  • Re:I agree (Score:5, Insightful)

    by moosesocks ( 264553 ) on Sunday March 09, 2008 @03:58PM (#22694160) Homepage
    Music today has boundaries that stretch unfathomably far beyond what gets played on the radio.

    For starters, there's the absolutely massive "indie" community that fosters a fantastic amount of great music.

    If you prefer ambient/electronic music with few or no words, quite a lot of artists have cropped up in this genre thanks to the magic of file-sharing and the internet, given the genre's relatively specific audience, and the difficulty for such bands to effectively promote themselves.

    There are a whole slew of artists in this genre worth checking out: 65daysofstatic, Mogwai, Sigur Rós, Four Tet, Explosions in the Sky, The Books, Battles, Boards of Canada, Aphex Twin, and a thousand others that I've either forgotten or never heard of.

    No matter how obscure you might think your musical tastes are, chances are good that there are many, many others like you. Don't be confined by video game soundtracks!

    That all said, I've never been all *that* impressed by a video game soundtrack, with the very notable exception of the Final Fantasy series.
  • by JNighthawk ( 769575 ) <NihirNighthawk AT aol DOT com> on Sunday March 09, 2008 @04:15PM (#22694242)
    "Wah wah, all new music on a big label sucks. It's drivel and droll for the masses. Here, listen to this underground band that only 20 people have heard of!"

    I hate people that say stuff like that. Liking pop music isn't a bad thing, nor is liking or disliking *any* kind of music. Take your tinfoil hat off and listen to what you want, but don't get all high and mighty about it. It's exactly the same way with religion.
  • by billcopc ( 196330 ) <vrillco@yahoo.com> on Sunday March 09, 2008 @04:17PM (#22694254) Homepage
    Yep, that's because GH3 wasn't made by Harmonix. I'm not at all implying that Aspyr isn't a decent game house, they've got quite a few massive hits to their credit, but Harmonix are the people who made the music game genre popular in North America. DDR already existed, but its uber-cheesy eurodance and J-pop soundtrack was too lame for the 3-chord jock tards of the USA and Canada. Harmonix released Frequency and Amplitude, which featured popular acts known to average suburban white kids like The Crystal Method, BT, No Doubt and Run DMC. Then of course, they threw in a few catchy indie tunes from their musician friends. I also found out about Freezepop through Frequency, and immediately fell in love with their sound. If I ever make another musically-inclined piece of software, you can bet your spleen it's going to feature some local talent. It's a no-brainer: little or no royalties to pay, tons of exposure for your friend's music, and of course lots of extra tracks for your game.

    Then Guitar Mania came along, with the same weak-ass euro-J-dance and even weaker Bon Jovi tracks :P Harmonix took the concept, gave it some real rock'n'roll tunage and the star power bonus just like they had done for Frequency/Amplitude, and history was made. Come on, it took some serious awesomeness to include the Trogdor song from Homestar Runner :)

    To most people, Rock Band is the true sequel to Guitar Hero 2. GH3 is okay, and has a decent track list, but it is inevitably inferior than the first two, simply because its creators are obviously not music lovers of the same caliber.
  • by Gibsnag ( 885901 ) on Sunday March 09, 2008 @04:20PM (#22694270)
    She does? Wow she really is talentless.

    Have you heard her Chop Suey live cover? There are no words to describe how terrible it is...
  • by Sean0michael ( 923458 ) on Sunday March 09, 2008 @04:33PM (#22694350)
    I think the reason video games are a good platform for music because of the attachment of the experience. When gaming, people become engrossed in what they are doing and absorb all elements of the game, including the music. For me I easily recall the different themes from some of my favorite games. Over-world themes in particular are very stuck, but games I loved to play over and over (Banjo-Kazooie, various Zelda games, etc.) are songs I won't forget.

    More to the point though, I am also attached to whatever music I put on while I was playing. Whenever I hear some songs, it instantly takes me back to playing that game. The same goes for pop songs today. If you put the song in an engrossing atmosphere, people get attached. It's no different than hearing the "NHL Tonight" theme and thinking hockey, or hearing "Zombie Nation" and thinking college hoops.

    I'm not surprised that people like the songs, and then seek the artist. Any exposure to the music in these environments is good for the artist.
  • Re:Spokesmodel (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jadin ( 65295 ) on Sunday March 09, 2008 @05:02PM (#22694514) Homepage
    You have a point, to a degree.

    The Beatles were pop, same as Britney Spears is pop. Don't hate pop music just "because", there is quality in the genre.
  • Re:Spokesmodel (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Doc Ruby ( 173196 ) on Sunday March 09, 2008 @06:32PM (#22694980) Homepage Journal
    Rock & roll wasn't corporate before Elvis. It was Black. And a little bit the White people who corporations tried to pretend didn't exist. It was Elvis getting on Ed Sullivan that showed corporations that rock & roll could be exploited. And then the stuff that was corporate stopped being rock & roll.

    Videogames aren't responsible for shit music. It's the music industry that's found a great vehicle for its shit music in videogames.
  • by pbhj ( 607776 ) on Sunday March 09, 2008 @09:58PM (#22696392) Homepage Journal
    >>> "Avril Lavigne was first introduced to European audiences through FIFA 2003"

    That may be true, but in the UK at least I'd have thought it was not through Complicated but through her second top 10 UK single (charting at number 8, 5 Jan 2003) "sk8er boi" from December 2002 that she was widely aired.

    Who even knew she sang on Fifa 2003? Fifa 2003 was apparently released in UK in Oct 2002, some reports say November - which means it would have targetted the christmas market ... Complicated was on "Top of The Pops" (the erstwhile UK chart show of record!) on 4 October 2002 (so was already popular), following the showings from the MTV Music Awards in August 2002 (MTV I warrant is far more popular across Europe than Fifa2003) which in turn followed the June release of Complicated.

    So I'm guessing that this is far more correlation than cause.

    Whatever.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2629761.stm/ [bbc.co.uk]
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 10, 2008 @12:12AM (#22697124)
    Oh, I totally agree. How DARE she butcher such a magnificent example of modern rock!

    BLARGA BLABBA BLIBBA BLOOGA BLICKUP!
    BOOBLE BABBLE BOGGLE BARBLE BLUCKUP!
    FLIBBLE FLABBLE FLARBLE FLOOBLE FUCKUP!
    GLIBBLE GLABBLE GLOOBLE GLOBBLE SHITFUCK!

    Look, April Levine is jizz in a sock, but don't try to make your case by talking about how she butchered a song by the Arrhythmic Gypsy Pickpockets or what the fuck ever that band is called. If they weren't goat-bearded Roma wank-rockers nobody would give a flying fuck what they did or who covered it. That shit is positively unlistenable unless you're a trust-fund college anarchist majoring in "The Suppression of the Vagina in Modern Theocracy" or some equally Dworkin-esque horseshit category. I'd rather have an iPod with "Sk8r Boi" on infinite loop permanently wired into my brainpan than have to listen to that overblown circle-jerk of a song even once more.
  • by TheLink ( 130905 ) on Monday March 10, 2008 @11:06AM (#22701438) Journal
    AFAIK, lots of people heard Avril Lavigne before FIFA 2003 was released.

    So I don't know what this story is really about.

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