Hairless ape writes "The RIAA is reacting to a story pointing out the group's hypocrisy in its attempts to have songwriter royalties lowered. The issue stems from attempts to get webcasters to pay fixed royalty rates. 'In short, the contention was that the RIAA wanted to pay a percentage of its revenue to songwriters as its profits have fallen, but pushed for a fixed per-stream when it came to earning money from webcasters.' The RIAA says that's not so, and that SoundExchange offered a similar model to webcasters. Either way, the rates sought by the two groups would have bankrupted many webcasters. 'Now you know; it wasn't about hypocrisy, but one of the seven deadly sins may still have been involved.'"
Polluting of the environment, genetic modification, carrying out experiments on humans, causing social injustice, causing poverty, becoming obscenely wealthy and taking drugs all constitute mortal sins, according to Girotti.
Gah. It still is hypocrisy. From their argument, they are implying that consumers are only buying individual songs, but that they, the overly generous music labels are paying songwriters and musicians as if we bought the whole album.
Revenue may be down, but payouts are down as well. The music industry hasn't been lowering the price of CD's OR lowing the price of individual songs on iTunes or Amazon. If anything, the majors 'profit margin' has increased, because they have significantly lower expenses AND g
The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) is the trade group that represents the U.S. recording industry. Its mission is to foster a business and legal climate that supports and promotes our members' creative and financial vitality. Its members are the record companies that comprise the most vibrant national music industry in the world. RIAA members create, manufacture and/or distribute approximately 90% of all legitimate sound recordings produced and sold in the
Oh, it's newsworthy. How else are people supposed to know that this unscrupulous organization exists and to steer clear of it if we don't hear about it every day?
...that everyone knows what we already know, people like my mother who think most artists make millions from CD sales will get the picture: the RIAA doesn't care about artists' profit- just its own.
I came into this thread with 10 shiny new mod points hoping to find someone insightful, but found not a single comment in the entire thread worth promotion. What's happened to slashdot? A story on a hot subject, and I see nothing but off-topic trolls and insipid banter about deadly sins taken out of context from the description at the top of the page. Not a single comment on the actual article.
Anyway, the RIAA's attempt to dodge the charge of hypocrisy is equally lame. First the new deal gives ridiculous profit to SoundExchange (30% of gross). And even though they do have a 'plan' to share with artists (an inequitable one, albeit), the lack of expediency is directly adding to the profit of the RIAA through this process. The artists are clearly an afterthought. The RIAA can't come close to hiding their real motivation: profit for its members at all costs, regardless of artists rights/needs.
If you outlaw copyrighted webcasting by making it cost prohibitive, only outlaws who don't care about cost prohibitive copyrighted webcasting will webcast.
I see nothing but off-topic trolls and insipid banter about deadly sins taken out of context from the description at the top of the page. Not a single comment on the actual article.
I hate to say this since you have a lower UID than I do but, You must be new here.
True, but the traditional definition of the sin was literally eating and drinking too much, and the traditional definition of greed was accumulation of material things. Related, but not quite the same.
There is a Chinese poem that goes something like "Many people wish their children to be intelligent. I, having wrecked my life through intelligence, only hope that the baby is stupid. Then he will have a tranquil life and go on to crown his career by becoming a government minister."
Truly the RIAA must be one of the most tranquil organizations on the face of the planet.
Since when was hypocrisy one of the seven deadly sins?
There aren't seven deadly sins. There are ten. [wikipedia.org] Wikipedia, unfortunately, does not quote the KJV. But then again neither does my preacher.
The "seven deadly sins" [wikipedia.org] were cooked up by Pope Gregory the Great in the 6th Century AD.
It may not be a deadly sin, but Dante puts hypocrites at the 8th level of hell [utexas.edu], putting it at almost the worst sin in his mind. And people have also quoted the bible, so I won't do that... but suffice it to say that hypocrisy is a very bad thing to most people. Saying you shouldn't steal while taking someone else's money doesn't sit as well with people as if you had just stolen it because you needed/wanted it.
#1, genetic modification. We will jail all who grow roses and all who have fruit orchards? #2, human experimentation. What's wrong with medical research, psychological research, etc.? #3, #4, #5 need definition #6, punish success and all suffer #7, only the drugs you don't happen to like. Does everyone agree on which drugs are bad?
So, let's see. The RIAA is certainly guilty of the new 4, 5, and 6
Nothing new here... just because these sins were just recently listed didn't mean that the riaa execs weren't going to hell anyway: They were accusing innocents of "stealing" their "property" (that's perjury), engaging in monopolistic practices and asking too much of punitive damages (which would go against "thou shalt not steal"), etc. They were evil, and they know it.
According to everyone's friend, Wikipedia, a drug is defined as "any substance that alters normal bodily function".
Using that definition, alcohols would be considered a drug. Of course, food, water, air, and every other foreign object introduced into a body could be classified as a drug. Your normal body function is to die. Taking drugs like food and water alter that and keep you alive. Air has that nasty habit also. I say let's ban drugs and see how long the human race lasts!
I wonder if the alcohol that Christ made out of water counts as drugs or not? If not, I'd like to hear why alcohol is not a drug.
Well, some religions (such as Southern Baptists) hold that alcohol is verboten. Others (such as Rastafarianism) have no problems with drugs. Most religions seem to uphold drinking as a celebratory or social act, and are silent on other drugs. So, I would say that religions tend to lump drugs and alcohol together, but the US is where they sent all the Christian groups that thou
Ayn Rand was a hack and a plagiarist.
The whole idea of atlas shrugged was taken from the idea of using guilt as leverage in religion. Here's an oft quoted part changed to fit a religious context:
There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power the Church has is the power to punish sinners. When there aren't enough sinners, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a sin that it becomes impossible for men to live without sin.
. The whole idea is to make people think they are doing bad things in
Modus Operandi's are practically identical, by "the church" this applies to most theist churches. To be more accurate however how many US presidents have not been Christian? How many senators are not Religious? (willing to bet the vast majority (75%) are Christians in some flavour or another).
Connection enough?
At least the Australian government is honest about it, you have to be a member of the church of England to be a member of parliament.
So, what is the problem? The US government is carrying out the will of the people? Any democracy made up of 90% Christians is going to be represented by mostly Christians.
At least the Australian government is honest about it, you have to be a member of the church of England to be a member of parliament.
This is absurd unless your goal is to disenfranchise.
So, what is the problem? The US government is carrying out the will of the people? Any democracy made up of 90% Christians is going to be represented by mostly Christians.
So much for for the vaunted separation of church and state. Maybe not so bad for you but IMO, any theocratic state is bad.
At least the Australian government is honest about it, you have to be a member of the church of England to be a member of parliament.
This is absurd unless your goal is to disenfranchise.
So much for for the vaunted separation of church and state.
I don't know what you are getting at. What social code should the US follow that would make it more separated? About the only thing I can think of is getting "In God We Trust" off of the currency. There's no government-sponsored church of any kind, no church is taxed, and there is broad freedom of assembly. Hell, even whack-job Scientology is permitted.
Honesty not something you want from government?
Honesty is disclosure, not forcing your politicians to join some bullshit church. Some of our most prominent politicians are Jewish. Many of them are Catho
That is not entirely true. While alcohol is indeed referred to as "strong drink", there are numerous references to good ol' alcoholic wine: see here [tektonics.org].
Oh yeah, I know it's all extra silly. But the blurb made me think of it, and my SlashKarma could stand taking a hit for the sake of posting something interesting.
My list like yours would look like this:
(1) Does this cover reproduction? You're mixing your genetic material with someone else.
(2) Technically, human experimentation would apply to your tailor. He fits pants to you, then modifies them, then fits them again...it's experimentation with a human involved.
(3) Polluting the environment is re
(3) Polluting the environment is recursive. Say a Hail Mary to be forgiven, exhale CO2, have to say another one...
But, the O2 we convert to CO2 and then we exhale is the same CO2 other organisms convert to O2 and then exhale. Is that pollution or just the proper working of a closed system?
Presumably one of the Vatican's new deadly sins (Score:4, Interesting)
Actually at least six of these new seven deadly sins apply to the RIAA, starting with "polluting the environment".
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A little off topic, but why am I suddenly reminded of all those AOL CD's?
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From their argument, they are implying that consumers are only buying individual songs, but that they, the overly generous music labels are paying songwriters and musicians as if we bought the whole album.
Revenue may be down, but payouts are down as well. The music industry hasn't been lowering the price of CD's OR lowing the price of individual songs on iTunes or Amazon. If anything, the majors 'profit margin' has increased, because they have significantly lower expenses AND g
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Everyone's guilty of that, and I don't see why the RIAA is especially guilty.
Let me guess, the exception, right?
Other than studies and surveys (which are experiments on human behaviour), what exactly have they done?
I'll give you that. They were certainly instrumental in unbalancing copyright law.
I don't think they've done much of that. If you're going to cite the artists as an example, I'
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Payola? (Score:5, Funny)
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He's too busy working up his bid to run for president.
Hey! It worked for Bill.
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If he had a prostitution bill comin at him, why didn't he just pay it?
Oh, wait...
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That's very different. Never mind.
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I thought there was 14 now? (Score:2)
News? (Score:5, Funny)
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At least it is legal (Score:3, Insightful)
Maybe now... (Score:2, Insightful)
Why the painfully inane comments today? (Score:5, Insightful)
I came into this thread with 10 shiny new mod points hoping to find someone insightful, but found not a single comment in the entire thread worth promotion. What's happened to slashdot? A story on a hot subject, and I see nothing but off-topic trolls and insipid banter about deadly sins taken out of context from the description at the top of the page. Not a single comment on the actual article.
Anyway, the RIAA's attempt to dodge the charge of hypocrisy is equally lame. First the new deal gives ridiculous profit to SoundExchange (30% of gross). And even though they do have a 'plan' to share with artists (an inequitable one, albeit), the lack of expediency is directly adding to the profit of the RIAA through this process. The artists are clearly an afterthought. The RIAA can't come close to hiding their real motivation: profit for its members at all costs, regardless of artists rights/needs.
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Did you forget you were on the internet?
Seven (Score:5, Funny)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke [wikipedia.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony [wikipedia.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm [wikipedia.org]
And whoever modded this guy up needs to take the same remedial course on humor.
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Truly the RIAA must be one of the most tranquil organizations on the face of the planet.
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There aren't seven deadly sins. There are ten. [wikipedia.org] Wikipedia, unfortunately, does not quote the KJV. But then again neither does my preacher.
The "seven deadly sins" [wikipedia.org] were cooked up by Pope Gregory the Great in the 6th Century AD.
However, as to hypocracy, Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother' [holy-bible.us]
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#2, human experimentation. What's wrong with medical research, psychological research, etc.?
#3, #4, #5 need definition
#6, punish success and all suffer
#7, only the drugs you don't happen to like. Does everyone agree on which drugs are bad?
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Nothing new here... just because these sins were just recently listed didn't mean that the riaa execs weren't going to hell anyway: They were accusing innocents of "stealing" their "property" (that's perjury), engaging in monopolistic practices and asking too much of punitive damages (which would go against "thou shalt not steal"), etc. They were evil, and they know it.
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I wonder if the alcohol that Christ made out of water counts as drugs or not? If not, I'd like to hear why alcohol is not a drug.
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I'd like to hear why alcohol is not a drug (Score:2)
Using that definition, alcohols would be considered a drug. Of course, food, water, air, and every other foreign object introduced into a body could be classified as a drug. Your normal body function is to die. Taking drugs like food and water alter that and keep you alive. Air has that nasty habit also. I say let's ban drugs and see how long the human race lasts!
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Well, some religions (such as Southern Baptists) hold that alcohol is verboten. Others (such as Rastafarianism) have no problems with drugs. Most religions seem to uphold drinking as a celebratory or social act, and are silent on other drugs. So, I would say that religions tend to lump drugs and alcohol together, but the US is where they sent all the Christian groups that thou
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The whole idea of atlas shrugged was taken from the idea of using guilt as leverage in religion. Here's an oft quoted part changed to fit a religious context:
. The whole idea is to make people think they are doing bad things in
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Connection enough?
At least the Australian government is honest about it, you have to be a member of the church of England to be a member of parliament.
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So much for for the vaunted separation of church and state. Maybe not so bad for you but IMO, any theocratic state is bad.
Honesty not something you wa
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So much for for the vaunted separation of church and state.
I don't know what you are getting at. What social code should the US follow that would make it more separated? About the only thing I can think of is getting "In God We Trust" off of the currency. There's no government-sponsored church of any kind, no church is taxed, and there is broad freedom of assembly. Hell, even whack-job Scientology is permitted.
Honesty not something you want from government?
Honesty is disclosure, not forcing your politicians to join some bullshit church. Some of our most prominent politicians are Jewish. Many of them are Catho
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing, if life just had an edit button.
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Oh yeah, I know it's all extra silly. But the blurb made me think of it, and my SlashKarma could stand taking a hit for the sake of posting something interesting.
My list like yours would look like this:
(1) Does this cover reproduction? You're mixing your genetic material with someone else.
(2) Technically, human experimentation would apply to your tailor. He fits pants to you, then modifies them, then fits them again...it's experimentation with a human involved.
(3) Polluting the environment is re
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But, the O2 we convert to CO2 and then we exhale is the same CO2 other organisms convert to O2 and then exhale. Is that pollution or just the proper working of a closed system?