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Speed Racer's Visual FX Uncovered 274

Marco Trezzini writes "View exclusive interactive samples of the digital building blocks behind the Speed Racer movie in VRMag's in-depth interviews with award-winning Matrix visual FX guru John Gaeta, Dennis Martin, Lubo Hristov, and Jake Morrison. Including Virtual Reality panoramas of the movie locations, turn tables of the mach 5 and 6, and many making of videos unveiling the secrets of the visual effects. Link to 'Speed Racer uncovered' and to John Gaeta's interview." The first time I saw the trailer for this movie, my jaw hit the floor. Nobody makes live action "Cartoons" that look like this. I guess that makes me believe there is no way the movie can be good.
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Speed Racer's Visual FX Uncovered

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  • by eldavojohn ( 898314 ) * <eldavojohn@noSpAM.gmail.com> on Monday May 05, 2008 @09:23AM (#23299674) Journal

    The first time I saw the trailer for this movie, my jaw hit the floor. Nobody makes live action "Cartoons" that look like this. I guess that makes me believe there is no way the movie can be good.
    "No way?" Why on earth do you say that? I mean, the odds are high we have the equivalent of Fantastic Four, Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow or a Matrix sequel. You know, movies that have great or novel special effects but little else. On the other hand, you could have something like Brazil, Blade Runner or 2001: A Space Odyssey. Movies that had different or strange special effects with more supporting features than just that.

    I don't think that's exactly fair. There is some way the movie could be good. The original Matrix had neat (maybe not original) effects but it also had a very sound core science fiction theme along with a lot of great drama and situations. The dialog wasn't the best but I thought the story was very very strong. My 50+ year old aunt and uncle watched it when it came out and the one thing they remember from it is the story. Not the special effects or dialog or who was in it but the possibility of this Man Vs Machine universe.

    I'll admit when I saw the Speed Racer trailer, my brain didn't comprehend anything that happened. I couldn't tell who was what, what I was looking at or even what kind of conflict the movie centered on. I was utterly stupefied. I'm not afraid of admitting that, it was just confusing and I've never seen or read any Speed Racer material so I have no precursor or knowledge of what the theme is.

    If this movie is relying 100% on its stunning visual effects, it's going to be a summer blockbuster and nothing more. It isn't going to age well and might go down as being a standard to watch on the latest plasma screen until next summer when a better movie comes out. There is, however, still a very likely possibility that one or more elements comes through to save the movie. Whether it be the directing, the acting, the story or even the music.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 05, 2008 @09:45AM (#23299884)
    "I couldn't tell who was what, what I was looking at or even what kind of conflict the movie centered on. I was utterly stupefied. I'm not afraid of admitting that, it was just confusing ..."

    Sounds like it's true in some ways to the original "Speed Racer", HA HA.
  • by sexybomber ( 740588 ) on Monday May 05, 2008 @09:53AM (#23300012)

    Just order a large popcorn, maybe get a little intoxicated, and go watch the eye-candy.
    (emphasis mine)

    A little? Every time I see the trailer, I think to myself, I've got to go see that movie when I'm tripping balls. I just hope my eyeballs don't pop out of my head!
  • by smittyoneeach ( 243267 ) * on Monday May 05, 2008 @09:56AM (#23300044) Homepage Journal
    Reverse psychology.
    If they came out liking it, everyone would assert "Oh, they're a bunch of tools, the movie is teh l4m3".
    I, for one, plan on going to see this flick and reverting to age 8 for an hour and a half, irrespective of whether the movie is so content-free as to qualify as a political speech.
    Neener, neener, neener.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 05, 2008 @10:11AM (#23300180)
    Stop looking for realism, stop looking for cartoon - sit back and drink in this wonderful combination of the two. Know the last movie I saw where the special effects and lighting made me go - oh wow, look at this, we're in another world! - Tron. Yep, gotta go back that far to get the same kind of reaction I got when I saw the trailer. I love the vibrant colors (Trixie's ultra-red lips with so much ultra-hot-pink on screen is an image that just sticks in my mind), I love the chaotic scenery, and I love that gravity among other physics are mostly ignored. Even if the story doesn't live up to history, the wonder at which I stare at the screen will be quite enough for me - It all looks ultra-real, and that's got me excited just like Tron used to.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 05, 2008 @10:17AM (#23300248)
    TRON didn't have any preconceptions to work with. As the very first movie with extensive CGI, they had no idea what the viewing audience would or would not like. Also, the rendering technology of the day was so horribly limiting that they had to do the best with what they had.

  • by cizoozic ( 1196001 ) on Monday May 05, 2008 @10:30AM (#23300422)
    I've read or heard that the "scorching of the sky" was done with some kind of nanotechnology that disabled electronics and did not allow electromagnetic waves to pass through. Supposedly when the ship pierced the clouds in one of the movies it stalled because of this. I still like this humans as coprocessors idea much better though, because thermodynamically the whole human battery thing never made any sense to me. Sure we produce chemical(/electrical) and thermal energy, but we get that from our food and therefore from the sun. Anyway, you coppertops can believe what you want to believe.
  • by Kierthos ( 225954 ) on Monday May 05, 2008 @10:46AM (#23300614) Homepage
    I refuse to consider anything I say about a cartoon that is 40 years old to be a spoiler. It's like talking about how King Kong dies at the end of the movie. It's been out a while. There's a time limit on this shit.

    And really? A Thundercats movie? That's just fucking sad.
  • by fudboy ( 199618 ) on Monday May 05, 2008 @11:21AM (#23301068) Homepage Journal
    So, a thread where everyone gets to show how terribly sophisticated they are by turning their noses up at an action film? no way! I submit to you all that the vast majority of this trash talk is little more than fickle ignorance.

    This film is certainly about visual appeal. But i can say that with just a teensy bit of knowledge in that domain, it is readily apparent to me that this is a spectacular triumph.

    The film captures the recently popular technique called HDR or High Dynamic Range photography, but they manage to do it at 24 frames per second at IMAX resolutions and keep it going for 2 hours. All of the motion blur, lens flares and other camera artifacts are clearly intentional and separate from anything having to do with their cameras, most likely in order to emphasize a sense of scale or motion. Notice how the backgrounds are in focus, crisp and sharp along with the immediate foreground- this is surely the most essential element of creating the live action cartoon feel that the brief snippets of trailer are hinting at.

    But the most important thing I'm able to extract from the limited glimpses I've had is that they employ all of this to convey the sense of big heavy cars racing at hundreds of miles per hour and flipping through the air as gracefully as a ballet troop in full deployment.

    So what good does the optimistic assessment do me? For one thing, it gives me some joy in the anticipation. More importantly, I get the satisfaction of being truly sophisticated without sitting in a traffic jam down on Snark St.
  • by Colonel Korn ( 1258968 ) on Monday May 05, 2008 @11:33AM (#23301228)
    The sad thing is that the expensive actors tend not to be any better than cheap actors. They make a lot of money because of silly factors like looks or previously held roles, not acting quality. This is especially horrid in animated movies, where "stars" doing voices are the focus of all the trailers, and then each celebrity essentially plays himself or herself. The talented voice actors (for instance, Billy West, who plays half of the characters in Futurama) come in to audition and get rejected, while the director will then coach the auto-hired celebrity based on the improvised performances seen by the talented but unknown actors.

    Next time you see an ad for Crazy Animal Doing People Things starring Al Pacino as Every Character Al Panico Has Ever Played and Cameron Diaz as Generic Bimbo, just walk away.
  • by dido ( 9125 ) <dido&imperium,ph> on Monday May 05, 2008 @11:17PM (#23308010)

    My own interpretation is that the machines are actually obedient to the last drop. They are trying to create a perfect world for humans, and the entire contrivance that is the Matrix is really a massive system designed for the machines to understand what will constitute a perfect world for humanity. I think of the Oracle in the Matrix in the sense of the 'oracle Turing machine' described by Alan Turing in the paper "Systems of Logic Based on Ordinals", as a special type of state that the machine can go into that consults an external 'oracle' that directs the evolution of the system in a way that might not be possible for an ordinary Turing machine.

    The machines are not doing any of this for their own sake, which would actually make no sense at all to my mind, as all the effort they expend towards doing what they do would be pointless. The only problem was that the machines were mis-programmed in such a way that they elevated a sub-goal into a super-goal, in exactly the way described by Nick Bostrom here [nickbostrom.com] (section 4.4). Find a perfect world for humanity, the machines were asked, and they complied by placing all of humanity into a virtual world that it is constantly trying to manipulate to come across what it finds constitutes perfection for humanity.

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