Syrian Blogger Sentenced to Three Years in Jail 211
blind biker writes "The AP reports (via the Herald Tribune) of Tarek Bayassi, a 24-year old Syrian blogger sentenced to three years in jail for 'undermining the prestige of the state and weakening national morale.' The original sentence was six years but it was commuted on appeal. Apparently, this isn't an isolated case in Syria."
Re:Prestige of the State? (Score:1, Insightful)
FYP.
Aren't you glad it's not, and that you don't live in Syria where it is punishable?
somebody should explain the court (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not any error Cham train! (Score:5, Insightful)
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.almarfaa.net%2F%3Fp%3D117 [google.com]
His "Free Tariq" site:
http://209.85.171.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://ahmadblogs.net/freetariq [209.85.171.104]
The problem I have with all of this is that we simply don't have very much evidence to go on as spectators. If someone was being brought up on trumped up charges, it would make a difference to me whether he was Fred Phelps or Fre Rogers. Justice should be blind, but sometimes taking the blindfold off and snuffing out truly vile people for the sake of the rest of us.
There isn't enough information at all about Tariq that is easily available, so we don't know if he was just bad mouthing Assad or if he was organizing assassination attempts on the President. Without context, I guess we should just cry for Free (as in Speech) Speech.
He had a trial, at least. (Score:5, Insightful)
People are being freed from Guantamo after 6 years without ever even having being charged with anything. Can you imagine the torture of not even knowing when you are going to get out?
Re:somebody should explain the court (Score:5, Insightful)
This is actually very insightful.
The point of free speech is more than just to allow anyone to say their bit. It includes the fact that reasoned and fair debate will do more to undermine any truly dangerous people than any system of censorship could.
There are many examples of this, but the one that springs to mind is BNP (British National Party - right wing skinheads aka Neo Nazis in the UK) being invited to open debates versus simply being sidelined. Every time they are invited to express themselves and engage the mainstream media, they make complete fools of themselves, proving themselves to be nothing more than racist skinheads. Banning them would fan the flames - allowing them free (even if racist and offensive) speech does far more to kill their support.
Suppression of an ideology almost always does more to drive people towards it than free discussion.
Actually I was surprised (Score:3, Insightful)
perhaps the fact what he did was so easily available saved his life.
I do have to wonder how some people here actually thinks the Syrian leadership is any shape or form actually embarrassed by their handling of it let alone concerned what you think about it. On the world stage nothing much more expected out of a country like this and they wouldn't care anyway.
This is one the of many countries that only exists because its not PC or financially expedient to fix.
Re:Guys, we're talking about SYRIA here (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:American jailed for setting up satellites (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:somebody should explain the court (Score:3, Insightful)
The Goal of this court is to keep INTERNAL morale high. They don't care what we think of them. They are trying to keep thier message consistent within thier country.
Similar things were done here not so long ago, and just as publically, if not more so. Do you know what happened to folks who said that 'maybe communism isn't so bad?' during the 50's?
The guy wasn't shot, he wasn't maimed, his family wasn't killed, he was just put away for 3 years.
Thats progress.
And looking at where they are starting from - it is pretty damn good progress.
Re:Prestige of the State? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Guys, we're talking about SYRIA here (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm old enough to remember when people said that about Latin America and East Asia, that only a sufficiently dictatorial rightist or leftist (depending on the speaker's own prejudices) could run a stable government.
In fact, it turns out that Mexicans, Koreans, Brazilians and Singaporeans are quite as capable of living in democracies as Western Europeans are.
Free Trade is the Answer (Score:5, Insightful)
Free trade with Syria is the answer. The more open a nation is to trade, the more open that nation is to communications with the outside world. Sanctions are a form of war, remember.
Of all ironies is that Bush, by invading Iraq, threw away the lessons of his own party. Republicans, for better or for worse, have been staunch free traders since Reagan and it is that commitment to free trade around the globe that has caused nations to adopt more open societies, not American bombers. Have a strong defense, but for god's sake, don't start any wars and try and sell people stuff. It's a simple game plan, and Republicans were so good at it. But, after Afghanistan they just got too cocky and thought we could knock off Iraq. I almost want to go back in time and throttle William Kristol, and say "no, no, no, it is not time to have a benevolent American Empire!"
But, we just have to get back to the original game plan. Don't lecture the likes of Syria. Sell them stuff.
While we are at it, get rid of all of this USA PATRIOT nonsense.
Re:He had a trial, at least. (Score:2, Insightful)
Seriously, for all the horrible stuff that happens in Syria, the chronically bad state of play that is Guantanamo, indefinite detention without trial, and torture is pretty disgusting too. One does not excuse the other, but at least Syria isn't _pretending_ to be an elightened beacon of democracy and humanity.
Re:Guys, we're talking about SYRIA here (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:He had a trial, at least. (Score:5, Insightful)
What is the answer? I guess that if you are holding yourselves up as being the defender of the free world and calling 'evil' to account you have to make sure that you don't commit evil yourselves.
I realise that not all US citizens supported this state of affairs but enough of them voted to elect the George W Bush and again to re-elect him. Whilst you might not agree with the policies conducted they are being carried out in your name by your democratically elected government. As such you have to take the heat that goes with it. Fortunately you are free to protest against this and not be locked up.
huh? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Guys, we're talking about SYRIA here (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Free Trade is the Answer (Score:3, Insightful)
China is a lot more open than it was before. I mean, China may have a great firewall, but other regimes do not have an internet at all. Plus, you have to realize that there are plenty of Chinese people on the other end of a phone call or even meeting in person with western business partners. Is China as free as we would like, no? But, then, when Western Europe was in the same economic level as China, we were all serfs and slavery was legal.
Re:American jailed for setting up satellites (Score:3, Insightful)
- Roey
Re:He had a trial, at least. (Score:4, Insightful)