Media Dustup Pits Bloggers and Wired Against NYTimes 242
destinyland writes "Wired magazine ran a table listing the scientific effects of prescription drugs (and one illegal drug) — leading to an accusation from the NYTimes that they were 'promoting' drug use. But this routine controversy led to a fierce pushback online from bloggers and from Wired's reporter, who discussed his past drug use on his own blog and called for an honest discussion of scientific evidence and straight talk about medical effects."
Methamphetamine is NOT illegal! (Score:5, Informative)
Methamphetamine is available on prescription under the brand name Desoxyn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desoxyn [wikipedia.org]
Re:Methamphetamine is NOT illegal! (Score:5, Informative)
All DEA Scheduled drugs are legal given proper permits.
Schedule 2-5 usually only require a prescription from a doctor with proper DEA licensing.
Schedule 1+ can also be had, but with more restrictive DEA licensing.
Alexander Shulgin may be the best known for his DEA Schedule 1 license and his ensuing discovery of numerous psychoactive substances.
Re:when haven't we promoted drugs? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:when haven't we promoted drugs? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:LOLOUTRAGE!!1!11! (Score:5, Informative)
How dare they make it look so cool and sexy!
Re:Methamphetamine is NOT illegal! (Score:2, Informative)
I'm a pharmacist.
Re:"like heroin and pot" (Score:2, Informative)
Drugs similar to heroin (including morphine of course) do have accepted medical use in the US however, and heroin itself does in the UK. Both of these drugs can be safely used under medical supervision, but heroin is far more harmful to the body than marijuana.
You could also attribute all three of these to caffeine if you wanted to, it's potential for abuse is far higher than that of marijuana.
Re:when haven't we promoted drugs? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:when haven't we promoted drugs? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:when haven't we promoted drugs? (Score:2, Informative)
issue of cross-sensitisation of cannabis/opioid receptors [newscientist.com]
"research in rats suggests that using marijuana reduces future sensitivity to opioids, which makes people more vulnerable to heroin addiction later in life. It does so by altering the brain chemistry of marijuana users...rats that had been given THC during adolescence had a significantly altered opioid system in the area associated with reward and positive emotions. This is also the area linked to addiction."
Re:"like heroin and pot" (Score:4, Informative)
Since when? Not only was Nicotine used widely as a pestacide (because of its toxicity), but it's one of the most dangerous drugs that the public are exposed to. 40 1/1000th of a gram is considered potentially deadly to a human. (40mg)
The LD50 of nicotine is 50 mg/kg for rats and 3 mg/kg for mice. 40â"60 mg (0.5-1.0 mg/kg) can be a lethal dosage for adult humans.[11] [12] This designates nicotine an extremely deadly poison. It is more toxic than many other alkaloids such as cocaine, which has an LD50 of 95.1 mg/kg when administered to mice. Spilling liquid nicotine on human skin could result in death.[13] [Wikipedia.org]
Sure, yeah, um, "not a harmful drug" in what sense?
Re:You wouldn't like me when I'm angry... (Score:3, Informative)
Kind of puts the whole thing in perspective, doesn't it?
Re:when haven't we promoted drugs? (Score:1, Informative)
Addiction is a definition in the DSM-IV or somewhere though I don't have all the details, it still has been demonstrated to be addictive. Maybe it's less addictive based on your criteria compared to heroin, but it also excites areas of the brain associated with addiction, and addiction is addiction, however much you'd like to minimize that, relatively.
Re:when haven't we promoted drugs? (Score:4, Informative)
What's your point? Not all drugs should be legalized because some are very addictive? I don't think GP ever said we should.
Re:when haven't we promoted drugs? (Score:3, Informative)
I believe the late Terence McKenna [wikipedia.org] said that it was basically the fact that drugs break down boundaries that makes it threatening to ehmm.. certain 'cultural values' and 'power structures' (politics, religion, etc.).
An interesting point that he raises is that drugs that make us more productive 'in the factory', like coffee/caffeine, are promoted, while drugs that bring us 'as close as possible to the Bardo [wikipedia.org] while still being able to return' (paraphrase) are not promoted at all.
Think DMT [wikipedia.org]: our bodies produce it naturally(!), it's not addictive and it brings out the wildest psychedelic properties. It is however one of the most illegal substances known to man...
I'm not sure in which video this was mentioned, but probably 'The World and its Double'. I've got no time to find the exact fragment, but I believe it was in one of the following videos which are great anyway!
Terence McKenna: The World and its Double:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFD8pM4Mcs [youtube.com]
Terence Mckenna - Culture is your operating system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c8an2XZ3MU [youtube.com]
Terence McKenna in Seattle 1999_Culture is NOT Your Friend:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOy3H4yyocQ [youtube.com]
Heroin isn't harmful to the body (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Link to Wired article? (Score:2, Informative)
Original wired article [wired.com]
Re:when haven't we promoted drugs? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Methamphetamine is NOT illegal! (Score:1, Informative)
The increasingly-liberal interpretation of the "interstate commerce" clause of the constitution, post-dates the alcohol-prohibition era. In 1919, no one could have imagined that, so they bothered with amendments.