Anti-Government Webmaster Shot Dead By Russian Police 513
J.Tatar and a number of other readers alert us to the shooting death of an anti-government webmaster while in police custody in Ingushetiya, a volatile province in southern Russia. Police took Ingushetiya.ru owner Magomed Yevloyev off a plane that had just landed in Ingushetiya. "Yevloyev ... was a prominent opponent of the pro-Kremlin president of Ingushetia, Murat Zyazikov [a close ally of Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin]. Prosecutors have opened a preliminary manslaughter investigation after Yevloyev was shot in a police car in Narzan, the capital of volatile Ingushetia, a mostly Muslim region that borders Chechnya, Russian media reported. A spokesman for the prosecutor's office, Vladimir Markin, said 'an incident' took place after Yevloyev was taken into a police car 'resulting in a shooting injury to the head and he later died in hospital,' Interfax reported."
Re:Don't jump to conclusions (Score:5, Informative)
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A BBC article [bbc.co.uk] on this says:
Reports quoting local police said Yevloyev had tried to seize a policeman's gun when he was being led to a vehicle. A shot was fired and Yevloyev was injured in the head.
Re:Don't jump to conclusions (Score:5, Informative)
"As they drove he was shot in the temple
Sounds pretty conclusive to me. The last time I shot someone in the head "accidentally" with my gun, I also threw him out of the car because I was "careless". Wake up.
More Information about This Brutal Murder (Score:5, Informative)
For additional information about this heinous crime, read the report [telegraph.co.uk] just issued by the "Daily Telegraph" (DT). According to the DT, "Mr Yevloyev is the most prominent anti-Kremlin journalist to be killed since Anna Politkovskaya was shot dead in the lift of her apartment block in October 2006. ... Russia is considered to be one of the world's most dangerous countries for journalists."
The "Wall Street Journal" provides more information [wsj.com] about this and other suspicious deaths of well-known journalists. According to the WSJ, "Mr. Yevloyev was the latest in a series of Russian journalists to have died in suspicious circumstances. The death of Anna Politkovskaya, who was shot in October 2006 at her Moscow apartment, highlighted the dangers faced by Russia's independent press. Ms. Politkovskaya was a lead reporter at Novaya Gazeta, a Moscow-based newspaper that specializes in muckraking and probes of government corruption. She was the third journalist at the paper to die under mysterious circumstances. Paul Klebnikov, editor of the Russian edition of Forbes magazine, was shot on a Moscow street in July 2004."
After I read these news articles, I could think of only 4 words: God damn the Kremlin!
Citation needed (Score:5, Informative)
Where in the article does it say that the murderers were "under direct orders from the Kremlin"? As far as I can make out, these were local cops who acted under the orders of the provincial governor Zyazikov - the main target of Yevloyev's criticisms.
Re:Don't jump to conclusions (Score:1, Informative)
From the WSJ article about this incident [wsj.com]:
Googling Mogamed Khazbiyev doesn't turn up a lot but it would seem that he is also a part of the anti-government (for lack of a better term) opposition that the deceased web site owner was part of.
Re:where are the apologists? (Score:2, Informative)
Except Gore would NOT have invaded Iraq over false evidence. So the only tool in your scenario is...you.
Re:Don't jump to conclusions (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Don't jump to conclusions (Score:2, Informative)
What??? I don't know about the military part, but the 'nearly broke' part is a joke. Russia has HUGE commercial EXCEDENT these days, mainly from gas and oil exports. In fact, it's probably one of the richest countries right now. They have natural resources and they're playing them really well.
But you're right in some respect - Russia is not the same country as it was in the past - say, the 90's. Unfortunately - for some of us who live rather close to its borders.
Re:Don't jump to conclusions (Score:2, Informative)
Attacking his neighbours, killing nonrussians in their major citys and so on. Russian politics and rethorics is identical to nazi germany in 1930. Georgia and South Ossetia conflict is exactly like German occupation of Czechoslovakia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_occupation_of_Czechoslovakia [wikipedia.org]. Remember what happend last time!
Except that South Ossetia was disputed territory, and it was the Georgians who went in with guns blazing, killing Russians. How do you think the USA would respond if the Mexican government started killing all US citizens in Tijuana? And that's not even disputed territory (except perhaps for one or two bars on a Saturday night).
Re:Don't jump to conclusions (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Don't jump to conclusions (Score:5, Informative)
Some facts to make you feel less comfortable spouting patriottic nonsense:
1) You're wrong [cia.gov]. The US is #26 in debt with 60% GDP. Some european countries are worse (eg belgium at 85%, france at 64), some are much better (eg holland at 46%, UK at 43%, spain at 35%).
2) US citizens don't save money, but are in debt themselves (eg creditcards). This means that most of the US debt is in the hands of foreign countries or nationals, while a large part of the european public debts is in European hands since europeans save a lot more.
3) The US imports way more than it exports [imf.org] (currently, the trade deficit is 600 billion (!), down from 800 due to the extremely weak dollar). Since these goods have to be bought capital flows out (eg to gulf states for buying oil). This capital flows back in the form of investments in US companies. This sounds good, but what it means is that you are selling Americal companies to foreigners to pay for your consumption. The EU countries generally have trade balance or surplus
Re:Don't jump to conclusions (Score:2, Informative)
According to accounts by people who haven't been told the events
* South Ossetia is a firecracker, but 50/50 South Ossetian/Georgian.
* The South Ossetian militias attacked first.
* Georgia's military is helping the US in Iraq - but their depleted military and reserves attacked back.
* The South Ossetian's women and children had been moved to North Ossetia in Russia prior to the attack.
* Oddly enough vast numbers of Russian troops just happened to be nearby to help out the South Ossetians.
* Clearly the Georgians aren't angels either.
This is clearly a planned attack by Russia and the people that it has been giving free passports to (but who are not Russians otherwise). Right now it is looking like the West has swallowed the Russian view of events hook, line and sinker, when it appears that Russia has the most to gain from lying about all this.
Re:Don't jump to conclusions (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Don't jump to conclusions (Score:1, Informative)
Article you referenced is either propaganda or complete blah.
Basically it says that russians used heavy arms first. Do you understand that number of anti-russian OSCE peacekeepers present there just wouldn't keep silence for two days? Heavy arms were disabled in the area of conflict and any _confirmed_ (definitely not by georgians) use of them would resound in western news immediately.
Re:they are baaaaaack! (Score:3, Informative)
1. Exactly where close to the U.S. border can Russia build one? On Greenland? In Canada?
2. Believe it or not, Russia does not want another arms race.
'cause we all know blogs are reliable source of in (Score:3, Informative)
'cause we all know blogs are reliable source of information. US Ambassador in Moscow must have been lying when he said that they've tried to dissuade Saakashvili till the last moment on August 7th when the attack was launched. Then Russia spent a precious day trying to get help through diplomatic channels. And only THEN they kicked the Georgians out and took away their toys.
Re:Don't jump to conclusions (Score:3, Informative)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_War [wikipedia.org] ? Or maybe Iraq war?
Re:Why do you people always leave this out? (Score:3, Informative)