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Artists Strive To Wrest Rights From Music Industry 287

eldavojohn writes "The funny thing about the RIAA & BPI is that the artists are just as tired as the fans with how online music is being handled. So they're trying something new called the Featured Artists' Coalition. FAC's site states in their charter: 'We believe that all music artistes should control their destiny because ultimately it is their art and endeavors that create the pleasure and emotion enjoyed by so many.' As digital releases are increasing, the artists aren't seeing any more money. With the advent of online distribution, are the traditional music industry functions of promotion, samples, radio, and marketing now nothing but costly overhead for the artists? From Iron Maiden to Kate Nash to Radiohead, some big names are backing this new organization."
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Artists Strive To Wrest Rights From Music Industry

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06, 2008 @06:01PM (#25278111)

    If there is any way that you can help (adding a banner to link to their website, putting flyers up where appropriate, etc), please do.

  • Re:Well. (Score:2, Informative)

    by gdog05 ( 975196 ) on Monday October 06, 2008 @06:11PM (#25278243)
    Sorry, I clicked on Redundant by accident. I'm a bad mod. This post is to fix.
  • damn publishers! (Score:5, Informative)

    by LingNoi ( 1066278 ) on Monday October 06, 2008 @06:28PM (#25278415)

    The rights for performers should be improved to bring them more into line with those granted to authors (songwriters, lyricists and composers). Authorâ(TM)s rights are much stronger because their rights model was developed 100 years before performers' rights. Some key differences:
    - if an artist's recording is used in a TV advertisement in the UK, the author gets paid (via PRS) every time it is broadcast but the performers do not
    - if an artist's record is played on free-to-air radio in the US the author gets paid public performance income (via ASCAP or BMI) but the performers do not
    - if an artist's recording is used in a feature film, the author but not the performer gets paid public performance income every time the film is shown in a UK cinema.

    and there you have it ladies and gentlemen. The recording industries bullshit lies. Piracy be damned. The reason artists make squat is because the publishes have stolen all the money!

  • by Reziac ( 43301 ) * on Monday October 06, 2008 @06:32PM (#25278451) Homepage Journal

    The tags are all messed up in low-bandwidth/no-CSS/no-JS mode, too.

  • by nbert ( 785663 ) on Monday October 06, 2008 @06:36PM (#25278487) Homepage Journal
    I don't know much about the structure of the IRAA, but its local puppet Gema [www.gema.de] collects royalties for playing a song in public in Germany (at least if there's a business behind it). They even collect fees from businesses which have a radio running in public areas of their venues (restaurants, stores, hotels ...). It's a stupid system and I wouldn't mention it if Germany wasn't the 2nd largest music market in the world.

    So basically whenever "I'm looking for freedom" runs on some station in Germany there's a big check traveling to the US or wherever David Hasselhoff currently lies on the ground trying to eat a burger :)
    Like I said I don't have a clue how the RIAA deals with such issues, but the Gema alone should provide enough incentive to keep the current status.
  • Re:Stop saying RIAA (Score:2, Informative)

    by isBandGeek() ( 1369017 ) on Monday October 06, 2008 @07:38PM (#25279027)
    I was going to buy a VAIO laptop, but decided not to because of Sony's incident with its rootkit, SecuROM, and this too.
  • by Weaselmancer ( 533834 ) on Monday October 06, 2008 @07:55PM (#25279167)

    Here's someone else who is also sick of the RIAA and decided to go rogue. Mike Patton with Ipecac Recordings. [ipecac.com]

    Total freedom to release anything you want, no multi album contracts so you're not locked in, and royalty checks that favor the artist.

    Ipecac is distinguished from most labels (independent labels included) by their policy of signing bands to only one album contracts. "Lawyers or businesspeople call us morons for only doing one-record deals," Werckman scoffs. "They say, 'You're not really anything, then.' Well, we like our catalogue. We like the records we put out. Our bands aren't rushing away. Our job isn't to own any artist. We're here to put out the art that people create."[2]

    Ipecac also presses no more than twenty thousand units at a time.[2]

    Low overhead and no video or promotional cost partnered with very little distribution costs allow for hearty royalties "Every six months I send those guys the fattest royalty checks," Werckman says. "It's great. It's the way it should be. Even bands that are very successful â" when they get royalty checks from us, they're stunned."

    Source. [wikipedia.org]

    I'm pleased other people are getting fed up with the RIAA. And I'm *very* pleased they're starting to demonstrate that they are unnecessary.

    It won't be long now, I'm thinking.

  • by NotQuiteReal ( 608241 ) on Monday October 06, 2008 @08:22PM (#25279371) Journal
    And the evil company acronym is WUSE. Pronounce as you wish.
  • by cdrguru ( 88047 ) on Monday October 06, 2008 @10:33PM (#25280335) Homepage

    The point is there is no "business model" that will come after the labels and RIAA. You can't sell free stuff. If it is available for free and 100% of the people know it and can get it for free then there is nothing left to sell.

    I don't know anyone that will buy music again. It is available for free and that is how people get it. Trying to build a new business that will get money for music is pointless. iTuens is offering convenience and a brand to people, but even still is making basically zero money. But it keeps iPod users fed and will exist for that purpose as long as possible. I suppose you might be able to sell a service something like that, but I doubt it. In a small number of years the people that equate piracy with theft and aren't willing to steal will be gone. At that point, free is the only game in town.

  • This is my rationale too - If an artist only gets 25% of my money currently, I'll happily pay them that amount directly (or a little more) as it is cutting out a huge swathe of arseholes all taking a cut and contributing nothing of value.

    Having auditioned for an amateur band and listened to their recorded music, I can tell you that good production quality is very important for the resulting listening experience. So some of the assholes are actually of value ;)

    That being said, if we donated directly to musicians, and a bit more than they make from sales right now, we could pay for the production indirectly by giving the musicians enough money to buy/hire/loan good production staff and facilities themselves.

    There's also marketing: if you don't know the song exists, you're not going to pay for it. That can be fixed on the cheap by teaching everybody to go to $WEBSITE for new music (for some value(s) of website), if possible. That also solves distribution on the cheap.

    (maybe the musicians would be overwhelmed by the choices of production staff/facilities and marketing platforms; perhaps they could hire someone dedicated to manage those choices; maybe those kind people could form a company offering their services, including in-house production staff :D)

  • by mcgrew ( 92797 ) * on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @10:10AM (#25285633) Homepage Journal

    It's not like piracy didn't exist before the RIAA came into being.

    Actually the RIAA did exist before piracy. They existed before digital music, even before cassettes (congress specifically legalized cassette piracy BTW). Their first purpose was to standardize the rollover frequency [wikipedia.org] of records.

  • Been true all along (Score:3, Informative)

    by whitroth ( 9367 ) <whitroth@5-BOHRcent.us minus physicist> on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @11:45AM (#25287269) Homepage

    Janis Ian, who us folkies know, and the rest of you don't, and who's been a well-known musician since the sixties, wrote about the RIAA and the music industry when the RIAA came up. Among other things, she noted that many artists make a lot of their income by selling CDs at their own concerts... and are *screwed* by the record companies. "BMG has a strict policy for artists buying their own CDs to sell at concerts - $11 per CD"!!!

    So, yeah, if the RIAA did *anything* for the artists, that would be nice. Instead, it *only* does it for the recording industry... and how many times have you read that a poor musician, who (of course) has no health insurance) had to sue the record company for their money? Arlo Guthrie has said that it only took him ->THIRTY YEARS- to "make money" for his record company, so that they'd give him money.

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