Court Rules That Palin Must Save Yahoo Emails 412
quarterbuck writes "An Anchorage judge has ruled that Governor Sarah Palin must save her emails, as they were apparently used for state business. Last week a Tennessee man was arrested over hacking one of her Yahoo email accounts. The Washington Post also reports that Sarah Palin, her husband, and officials had set up email accounts known only to each other."
Re:Like hell she will... (Score:5, Informative)
Or she'll just claim the emails say the exact opposite of what they actually say, just like she did with the troopergate report [cbsnews.com].
Re:Taking one for the team. (Score:5, Informative)
Now he's going to be seen the some cowering, harmless punk kid who half-wittedly exposed the blatant stupidity of Sarah Palin and the weaknesses of Yahoo and similar mail services.
Re:Taking one for the team. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Taking one for the team. (Score:5, Informative)
But do you think that if he had not gained access to her emails, this decision would have been made? Regardless if he backed out, this still resulted in her being forced to keep her yahoo emails. This could come back to bite her if she doesn't remove those emails first.
I believe there was already an effort underway by some Alaskans to gain access to the emails in the commercial accounts that Palin and her staff were using. The account that got hacked was actually her personal Yahoo account, not one of the ones normally used for official business.
yeah (Score:3, Informative)
Emphasis is on NON-WORK
Apparently she used the yahoo box for work too.
I wasn't sure about this earlier, but the court must be able to tell apart work from private mail.
Re:Privacy (Score:5, Informative)
Not that I'm for the ditz, but isn't everyone entitled to their privacy? Even online.
As in, being free to delete whatever non-work emails come to you.
The problem is that she was using a commercial account for state business [adn.com], which circumvents the security and accountability of using official state email services. She essentially made state business subject to Yahoo's terms of service rather than the laws of Alaska. Her official email is supposed to be public record, but the state can't access or archive her commercial account.
Re:Taking one for the team. (Score:5, Informative)
Personal email accounts called gov.palin@yahoo.com and where the subjects clearly implied she was talking business?
Sorry, I don't believe for a second they were personal.
gov.palin@yahoo.com was her personal use account. gov.sarah@yahoo.com was the one that she was using for official state business [adn.com].
Re:Taking one for the team. (Score:1, Informative)
The kid who hacked her account is the son of a Democrat politician. I think he knew what he was doing.
Re:Wait, she had private email... (Score:4, Informative)
Selective reading clearly shows someone's bias...or lack of comprehension.
Re:Sooper secret email address !!! omgroflcopter!! (Score:3, Informative)
Can you please show us a specific e-mail that proves she was conducting government business via a free email service?
Seriously, there are plenty of legitimate criticisms to level at this woman, and this is not one of them. There is no proof.
While there is no proof per se, there is extremely incriminating evidence already available thanks to the so-called 'punk' who is under indictment.
Here is a summary of subject lines and correspondents from said 'personal' account as reported on wikileaks.
Some people have tried to argue that these are not incriminating, some people see pink elephants too.
Subject: Draft letter to Governor Schwarzenegger / Container Tax
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)
Subject: FW: Motor Fuel Tax Suspension
From: Meghan Stapleton (Press Secretary)
Subject: RE: Using Royalty Oil to Lower the Cost of Fuel for Alaskans
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff)
Subject: Court of Appeals / Executive Director Parole Board / Boards and Commissions
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)
Subject: RE: Please approve
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)
Subject: Rural Wireless Service
From: McBride, Rhonda (Rural Advisor)
Subject: FW: DPS Employee Draft
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)
Subject: Re: DPS Personnel and Budget Issues
From: McAllister, William D (Communciations Director)
Subject: FW: DPS Personnel and Budget Issues
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)
Subject: Court of Appeals Nominations
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)
Subject: another records request
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff)
Subject: RE: Scheduling - Week of 08.10.08
From: Mason, Janice L (Scheduling Assistant
Subject: FW: Capitalizing on coal reserves, Crow Tribe strikes deal for $7B
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff)
Subject: Status report
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)
Subject: FW: Special session press release
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff)
Subject: Followup.
From: Colberg, Talis J (Alaska Attorney General)
Subject: FW: CONFIDENTIAL Ethics Matter
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff)
The hacker was the son of a politician, btw (Score:1, Informative)
This wasn't some naive kid, his dad's a Tennessee state representative (Democrat):
http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Oct09/0,4670,PalinHacked,00.html
Re:Taking one for the team. (Score:3, Informative)
Ok, either you need a s/left/right or a s/democratic/republican
As it stands, your comment makes no sense...
Re:Like hell she will... (Score:1, Informative)
...if she HADN'T taken any action against a state trooper who had tazed her 10 year step son. Screwed either way. After all, we DO all remember the pols who tazed that guy at a Kerry speech and how horrible, awful and hitler youth it was, right?
Here's what wikipedia has to say about the stepson tazing:
Following some of the links to the actual news articles, it appears that the trooper in question, Mike Wooten, had his stepson lie on the floor surrounded by pillows and clipped the taser leads to his stepson's shirt and gave his stepson a brief pulse on the lowest setting.
IMHO, tasing your stepson, even if he begs for it, isn't exactly a smart thing to do. Having said that, it's interesting that Palin supporters mention the tasing in a way that implies something much worse.
Re:Taking one for the team. (Score:4, Informative)
>Did you know about Ayers?
I knew about Ayers when he was pallin' around with Nancy Reagan, before the Reaganite Annenberg gave him $50 million. That was in the early 90s.
I laughed a lot when his name came up, because I already know he had as many Republican connections as Democrat.
Re:Taking one for the team. (Score:3, Informative)
Facts generally don't have much effect on someone who has outsourced their thinking to their tribal leader/shaman of choice.
Re:Taking one for the team. (Score:4, Informative)
No, you are totally wrong. Your analogy is, frankly, total shit. When she is conducting buisiness relevant to her job, she is not some average citizen, she has obligations that come with her office to ensure that all official buisiness and communication is properly archived, which is why the taxpayers of Alaska fund an email system for her to use that has those archival functions built into it. You utterly fucking fail at being worth even the sum of your constituent organic molecules if you think it is ok for her to bypass the law. Without rule of law, there is only tyranny. Or maybe that is what you're after.
Re:Taking one for the team. (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, they found email related to official buisiness on her yahoo account. Sorry, I know I know, reality has a well known liberal bias.
Re:Count me off your team (Score:3, Informative)
Since they were actually requested by the Alaskan courts, the point is now moot. So to speak.