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Police Cars To Transmit Real-Time Video 149

Hugh Pickens writes "In the first such system deployed in the country, police vehicles in Ponca City, Oklahoma will have wireless video cameras installed so precinct dispatchers and supervisors can monitor activities during traffic stops in real time, and quickly deploy additional officers and resources if necessary. The system to provide an added level of monitoring and protection for its force is part of a broadband mesh network comprised of more than 490 wireless nodes and gateways connected to 120 miles of fiber backbone that will provide coverage for approximately 30 square miles of the city. The network will provide field communications for city services including police, fire and emergency, parks and recreation, public works and energy, but will also be used to provide free wireless internet access for all residents of the city. 'The testing of this network showed that it was robust enough to handle not only municipal traffic, but also citizens' traffic.' said Mayor Homer Nicholson. 'So the Ponca City Board of Commissioners voted to allow the extra internet access to be given to the citizens of Ponca City for free.' The second phase of the project will expand the network and wireless coverage to more than 430 square miles surrounding the city with an estimated annual cost savings of over $1 million for city residents, who can discontinue their existing internet service. 'Our goal is to be one of the most mobile communities in America, and this is a significant step in that direction,' said Nicholson."
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Police Cars To Transmit Real-Time Video

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  • Fine, Just Fine... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by slifox ( 605302 ) * on Saturday November 22, 2008 @12:19PM (#25858065)

    I say this is a good thing, but we shouldn't stop there. I'd say everyone's car should have [hidden] video cameras...

    Anything that happens on public ground, especially involving public servants (i.e. police), should be considered to be recorded by the public. Privacy in public is an outdated concept, and has never truly existed anyways (so give it up). Someone will be watching -- the question is, is everyone watching, or is it a one-sided situation (like the CCTV system in the UK)?

    Events taking place on public ground should never come down to "his word vs. mine." In cases where this involves police, then the police officers' word is always given more credit than the citizens'. Now while this is probably a reasonable bias to have, it neglects the fact that police officers are just humans too, and are themselves just as influenced by biases as anyone else. Video recordings have no bias...

    This is essentially becoming a reality, especially considering that most everyone's phone has a camera. Let's see what happens the next time there is an instance of abuse of authority, say during a traffic stop or what-have-you...

    As Marge Simpson said...

    You know, the courts may not be working any more, but as long as everyone is videotaping everyone else, justice will be done.

  • by Joe The Dragon ( 967727 ) on Saturday November 22, 2008 @12:30PM (#25858165)

    Free wifi + real time video + VOIP = bandwidth issues and maybe even AP over load.

    also mesh network may make things even slower and traffic may have to use a few links to get a hard wired network link.

    What if you have 80% to 100% homes on a block useing this?

    What if 4-5 cops cars are in the same area?

  • Security thinking (Score:4, Interesting)

    by MarkusQ ( 450076 ) on Saturday November 22, 2008 @12:34PM (#25858191) Journal

    Ok, security-thinking time...

    Hmmm. If this were done someplace that was worth the effort (no idea what that city is like) it could potentially be a great way to keep track of where the cops were and maybe even what they were up to.

    --MarkusQ

  • by RiotingPacifist ( 1228016 ) on Saturday November 22, 2008 @12:41PM (#25858241)

    Qos addresses most of those issues, The problem IMO is that most wireless technologies are easy to jam. WPA for example is easy as hell to jam, a felon with a laptop with a laptop and aircrack can just kick all local users (including the cops) off the router. OTOH as long as this is in addition to their standard communication methods i don't see this as a problem.

  • by fuzzyfuzzyfungus ( 1223518 ) on Saturday November 22, 2008 @01:22PM (#25858465) Journal
    I would strongly suspect(though I've been guilty of optimism before) that the cop-cams, whatever the precise implementation details are, have at least a few minutes of local buffer. Even aside from the risk of deliberate jamming, getting wifi to work 100% of the time is nontrivial.
  • by Toll_Free ( 1295136 ) on Saturday November 22, 2008 @01:27PM (#25858505)

    I worked for Conoco / DuPont / CSC / QSR back when we did the Y2K.

    You aren't kidding, there is NOTHING there.

    Conoco has the fastest link, a microwave link, that goes all the way to corporate headquarters in Houston.

    Funny thing, Conoco used to proxy EVERYTHING corporate-wide VIA A T1. I mean, where talking THOUSANDS of desktops using a single T for internet usage.

    tnproxy.dupont.com (telnet, used for IRC lol)
    webproxy.dupont.com
    ftproxy.dupont.com

    Of course, those are / where internal addies, so they don't work outside, but man, I remember typing SO many of those into machines as we updated them, it was sickening.

    Fond memories, Ponca, Baby Does (that place still open), nothingness.... Wal Mart, the ONLY store in town.

    --Toll_Free

  • Re:And by "free" (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 22, 2008 @01:34PM (#25858567)

    Yes, like the streets. Streets are paid for by tax money because even someone who never leaves the basement profits from them (pizza delivery). Don't you think data connectivity is also basic infrastructure that should just be available to everyone?

  • by cayenne8 ( 626475 ) on Saturday November 22, 2008 @02:37PM (#25858995) Homepage Journal
    Funny...I was just thinking now, that in addition to a radar detector, I'd need to rig up and install a wireless 'detector'...and have it trigger a wireless jammer so they couldn't watch me as I went by.....

    Staying invisible to the cops these days is getting more and more high tech.

    :)

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 22, 2008 @03:06PM (#25859199)

    this is enough for me to move there

    That is a RIDICULOUS statement. You want to move to PONCA CITY, OKLAHOMA for the SOLE reason that their police cars will be equipped with real-time video cameras? SERIOUSLY? Do you OFTEN have run-ins with the cops that end up with you being falsely convicted of crimes due to the lack of oversight? Are you fucking BLACK?

    Oh no, that last sentence will get me a -1, Flamebait. But I am serious.

  • by lysergic.acid ( 845423 ) on Saturday November 22, 2008 @03:13PM (#25859257) Homepage

    i don't know about being monitored all the time (just because i'm in public doesn't mean i want people whom i can't see watching me over an internet video stream), but i think the wireless mesh network could definitely be expanded to non-city-vehicles.

    perhaps with the integration of vehicle GPS systems such networks can provide real-time traffic reports/analysis to drivers. i'd be interested in seeing whether this kind of smart p2p "traffic network" could optimize traffic flow by directing drivers to the most efficient route with regards to traffic conditions.

    if a freeway gets too backed up, it can slow down or cause traffic jams in other connected freeways. but if people can look up real-time traffic information then they might avoid congested routes, preventing severe traffic jams from forming. this would also help distribute traffic flow more evenly rather than having a few overcrowded routes and a bunch of underutilized routes.

    this would also lower the cost of rolling out wireless access in a lot of areas.

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Interesting)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Saturday November 22, 2008 @08:06PM (#25860961)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by kent_eh ( 543303 ) on Saturday November 22, 2008 @08:08PM (#25860977)

    BTW, even for those departments that don't have video, many cops these days carry mobile audio recorders and they push "record" when they talk to suspects.

    Yup. My brother does this.
    If the guy in the back seat won't stop trash talking and generally being a loudmouth asshole, he simply puts the recorder on the dash, and presses record in a visible dramatic sort of way.
    Instant silence, and politeness from the back seat.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 24, 2008 @07:17AM (#25871381)

    So you're a cop. And you seem to be a decent person at first glance.

    You're also browsing Slashdot.

    Does this article's setup raise any privacy concerns from your mixed point of view?

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