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Acorns Disappear Across the Country 474

Hugh Pickens writes "Botanist Rod Simmons thought he was going crazy when couldn't find any acorns near his home in Arlington County, Virginia. 'I'm used to seeing so many acorns around and out in the field, it's something I just didn't believe,' said Simmons. Then calls started coming in about crazy squirrels. Starving, skinny squirrels eating garbage, inhaling bird feed, greedily demolishing pumpkins. Squirrels boldly scampering into the road. And a lot more calls about squirrel roadkill. Simmons and Naturalist Greg Zell began to do some research and found Internet discussion groups, including one on Topix called 'No acorns this year,' reporting the same thing from as far away as the Midwest up through New England and Nova Scotia. 'We live in Glenwood Landing, N.Y., and don't have any acorns this year. Really weird,' wrote one. 'None in Kansas either! Curiouser and curiouser.' The absence of acorns could have something to do with the weather and Simmons has a theory about the wet and dry cycles. But many skeptics say oaks in other regions are producing plenty of acorns, and the acorn bust is nothing more than the extreme of a natural boom-and-bust cycle. But the bottom line is that no one really knows. 'It's sort of a mystery,' Zell said."
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Acorns Disappear Across the Country

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  • Anecdotal data point (Score:5, Informative)

    by Muad'Dave ( 255648 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @09:16AM (#25942739) Homepage
    Here in the Hanover county north of Richmond Va, we had an early and massive acorn crop. It would be interesting to correlate some weather phenomenon to acorns (long drought in late summer = early crop, very wet spring = huge crop, etc).
  • by dalewj ( 187278 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @09:19AM (#25942769) Homepage

    In Boston 2 years ago we were walkign on acorns, last year was a lower year, this year barely an acorn can be found. makes walking a bit safer :)

  • by portforward ( 313061 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @09:31AM (#25942905)

    Seems like there are plenty of acorns here.

  • Re:Colony Collapse? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Missing_dc ( 1074809 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @09:47AM (#25943117)

    Oaks have male and female plants that use airborn pollenation techniques, but they will self pollenate or clone themselves if needed. I would look at chemicals or precipitation before looking at bees.

    (for the Christers: perhaps God told the trees their children are no longer needed(/sarcasm))

    I have heard reports in the past of hungry packs of squirrels attacking and eating cats and small dogs. I wonder if those reports will increase this winter.

  • by Ciarang ( 967337 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @09:49AM (#25943141)
    You've got your subsequently backwards. The BBC Micro came first - the Electron was a cut-down budget version.
  • Re:Let me guess... (Score:2, Informative)

    by OriginalArlen ( 726444 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @10:11AM (#25943373)

    That's the thing that kind of bugs me is that Global Climate change gets all of the attention at the expense, it seems, over other issues. For example, coal fired power plants.

    Coal-fired power-stations DO contribute to global warming. The down-wind mercury levels, whilst elevated, aren't high enough cause the well-known chronic toxity effects (google 'minimata' for the gory details), but they could (collectively) lead to TEOCAWKI. Which would be bad.

  • by Vamman ( 1156411 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @10:20AM (#25943481)
    Most people don't realize this but we are actually still in an ice age. The planet goes through natural cycles of cold and hot. Our cold climate is warming, perhaps from anthropogenic disturbances but also perhaps from natural climate change. Sure the globe might be warming faster from CO2 but it will warm regardless we just might have accelerated things a bit. In terms of the grand scheme this was going to happen. The Devonian era or the era of 'man' has seen at least 80 known ice ages according to our fossil record. We've spent alot of time freezing our asses off but we've also spent alot of time baking them in the heat. When all of the ice is "gone" the planet will effectively reboot and start the process all over again. Once the oceans warm up to the point condensation will kick in, extreme storms, and then a massive cooling period. Dino's seen an asteroid kick start the global cooling process during the Triassic period (correct me if I'm wrong on that) and man likely will see global warming accelerate this process unless some other event totally blocks out the sun in the intern such as an asteroid, even a nuclear war, or a major tectonic occurrence could force the cooling period. The 'naturalists' will be stuck inside their box right up until their extinction occurs.
  • by jcnnghm ( 538570 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @10:33AM (#25943637)

    Having just walked across my patio barefoot yesterday, I can confirm that there are plenty of acorns in Maryland.

  • by 2gravey ( 959785 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @10:51AM (#25943929)
    Really weird. We have about 15 oak trees on our lot in Nashua, NH and we had noticed the complete absence of acorns this year as well.
  • Come to my house (Score:3, Informative)

    by beavis88 ( 25983 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @10:54AM (#25943967)

    We've got a bumper crop of acorns this year. I've never seen anything like it - my front yard is almost literally paved with acorn bits and pieces now. And we're less than 200 miles from the supposed VA dead zone in the article...

  • by mikefocke ( 64233 ) <mike DOT focke AT gmail DOT com> on Monday December 01, 2008 @11:31AM (#25944715)

    produced 4 large yard trash bags full of acorns just from the 400 sq foot parking pad which is located under its branches and perhaps covers 20% of the total area under its branches. While last year it produced about 5 to 10% of that.

    I figure that this single tree produced between 400 and 800 pounds of acorns this year! Based on having to pick up the bags I shoveled them into from the parking pad.

    The difference was a months long drought the year before and then this year we were consistently above seasonal average rainfalls through the entire year.

    My other oak trees were also putting out acorns in heavy volumes this year in contrast to last.

    When trees are feeling unstressed, they put energy into reproduction. When they are stressed, they focus on self-preservation.

  • by RenderSeven ( 938535 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @11:37AM (#25944833)
    Im awash in acorns, never seen so many in my life. Some places in the lawn are 2 and 3 deep and I cant even walk near some of the big oaks. And the squirrels dont even bother with my bird feeder.

    Not sure then how Rod Simmons is claiming New England has no acorns. Well, yes the answer to that is in TFA... he did all his research by reading newsgroups and BB's. I couldnt imagine a worse way to gather objective data, since no one would post normal or excessive acorn production, he doesnt compare newsgroup chatter to prior years with 'normal' acorn production, does no validation of claims, and still cherry-picks the results. Rod Simmons is an *idiot*.

  • Lots in Atlanta (Score:2, Informative)

    by benro03 ( 153441 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @11:46AM (#25945043)

    We've had a bumper crop this year of acorns, chestnuts, and pecans. Especially pecans because of the drought the insect population that normally eats them is way down.

  • by Elder Lazarus ( 1033500 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @12:11PM (#25945621)

    "LONG-TERM PATTERNS OF ACORN PRODUCTION FOR FIVE OAK SPECIES IN XERIC FLORIDA UPLANDS"

    Study of acorn production across several species in FL from 1969 to 1996 http://www.esajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1890/01-0707 [esajournals.org]

    From the abstract: We identified regular cycles of acorn production ... and found evidence that annual acorn production is affected by the interactions of precipitation, which is highly variable ..., with endogenous reproductive patterns. In contrast, acorn production showed no significant association with minimum winter temperatures.

  • by rve ( 4436 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @04:56PM (#25951099)

    So I'm not the only geek in the world who takes an interest in trees after all?

    I knew about mast years, and the following meagre years. This is a common adaptation to predation pressure or parasites. An extreme example of this are cicadas; predators don't live long enough for their population cycle to become synchronized with that of the cicada.

    I'm curious what the synchronization mechanism could be. In my area (north western Europe), last year was a mast year ... for beeches, chestnuts and all four species of oak growing in my area. This fall I found only a handfull of chestnuts, no beech nuts and hardly any acorns.

    While hiking in North Carolina this fall, I didn't see a lot of acorn remains either, but I attributed that to having been a bit late in the season.

    I'm surprised and intrigued that the phenomenon appears coincided on both sides of the Atlantic this year. Are the cycles synchronized via some global (solar?) external trigger, or is this just coincidence? I always assumed it must be the weather, but that isn't even remotely similar on both sides of the Atlantic.

  • Re:Let me guess... (Score:4, Informative)

    by Ambitwistor ( 1041236 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @05:09PM (#25951267)

    The best scientific introduction is the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 4th Assessment Report, Working Group 1 (physical science). It attempts to be a comprehensive literature review of the mainstream science. It is all available online here [ucar.edu]. If you'd like to know more specifically about any particular issue, and are having trouble locating it in the IPCC report (e.g., if you don't know what keywords to look for), let me know and I might be able to provide more specific references.

    The IPCC report is kind of dense and is a survey of the modern state of the art. If you're looking for more of a textbook sort of introduction to climate science, I'd recommend David Archer's book Understanding the Forecast. It's aimed at undergraduate freshmen, so it might be below the level you're looking for, but it's still pretty good at laying out a lot of the important issues.

  • Re:Let me guess... (Score:5, Informative)

    by Ambitwistor ( 1041236 ) on Monday December 01, 2008 @05:22PM (#25951429)

    Warming will cause an ice age. Because of "crucial heat exchanging currents." Got it.

    Although that's an oversimplification, that has in fact happened many times in the past (e.g., Dansgaard-Oescher events). What happens is that warming causes more fresh water to be added to the North Atlantic, due to increased precipitation and ice melt, or freshwater pulses from draining inland bodies of water (e.g., Lake Agassiz and the Younger Dryas event). This disrupts the Atlantic thermohaline circulation which carries heat from the tropics to northern Europe. That region will experience strong cooling, although not all regions do. Numerous such cooling events are recorded in the geologic record, including plunging the regional climate back into an ice age shortly after recovery from one. However, it is thought that glacial climates are more susceptible to such events than is the current interglacial. Current estimates are that even if the thermohaline circulation shuts down, Europe will still warm, since the cooling there is counteracted by the large amount of warming necessary to trigger such a collapse.

    Some of you have bought so heavily into this crap that you can't even tell how ridiculous you sound.

    Some of you are so pathetically unaware of everything we know about climate that you can't even tell how ignorant you sound.

  • Re:Let me guess... (Score:3, Informative)

    by instarx ( 615765 ) on Tuesday December 02, 2008 @05:10AM (#25957003)

    The problem is that there are only experts on one side of the argument. The global warming "debate" isn't honest experts shouting at each other - it is real experts being shouted at by PR propagandists who CALL themselves experts. Just look at all the so-called "Institutes" on the Web that look so professional and scientific when they claim to offer evidence that global warming is a myth. These are NOT scientific organizations - they are paid public relations firms posing as reputable independent research organizations. Don't be fooled - and they are very good at fooling people - it's what they do for a living.

    Their job is to create controversy where there is none. By creating pseudo-controversy and the appearance of scientific disagreement they delay legislation and influence public opinion to the benefit of their clients.

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