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Netflix Comes To Tivo, AppleTV, Linux 190

An anonymous reader writes "Netflix on Tivo is officially out and leaving satellite users out in the cold. Tivo announced today that if you are a subscriber to both services then you can start receiving many Netflix titles on your Tivo for no extra charge. This is only available to subscribers with TiVo HD, TiVo HD XL and TiVo Series3 DVRs. The majority of Tivo's subscribers are probably Series 2 owners and will be forced to 'upgrade' if they want this new service but it won't be that easy for those on satellite. Tivo's current model lineup does not really offer a solution for satellite subscribers. The HD and HD XL are cable only and there is no sign of the Series 3 on their site." Another reader also writes to tell us that "Linux PC and AppleTV users are about to gain the ability to stream Netflix's movies and TV shows directly to their systems. Although Netflix's instant watch service only officially supports Windows and Mac, Boxee expects to release Netflix streaming support to the Ubuntu version of its free A/V media center software within a couple of days, and says that adding Netflix streaming support to AppleTV asap is its top priority."
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Netflix Comes To Tivo, AppleTV, Linux

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  • No Series 2? (Score:3, Informative)

    by YrWrstNtmr ( 564987 ) on Monday December 08, 2008 @04:45PM (#26038709)
    Rats. Oh well, it sounded good. But I'm not getting a whole new Tivo box, until I have a need for it (i.e. an HD TV).
    And I expect there are a LOT of people like this.
  • by elrous0 ( 869638 ) * on Monday December 08, 2008 @04:52PM (#26038797)
    Not only that, but about half the time, I can't even get the damn movies I do have in my queue to actually stream to my 360 at all (I just get a vague "Playback did not start" type message). This seems to vary by disc, and doesn't seem to have anything to do with my connection. I was trying to watch some "Forever Knight" episodes this weekend, but could not get any of them to play, whereas eps from other series seemed to work just fine. AFAIK, none of these show the "Not available on Xbox" label that I've seen on some Sony movies.
  • Re:Linux? Really? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 08, 2008 @04:57PM (#26038849)

    No, not really. This story has gotten huge legs on the internet, but if people would actually read the Boxee forum, it tells you that support for Netflix won't be included in the Linux version until Netflix releases a player for Linux, which is supposed to happen some time next year. Netflix support is only in the Mac version of Boxee (they are working on Apple TV, but the 1Ghz processor is just to slow to make it work).

  • by dreamt ( 14798 ) on Monday December 08, 2008 @05:02PM (#26038915)

    That is series 2. Thats why Netflix is only on series 3, where the newer codec ARE supported.

  • Re:Why bother (Score:5, Informative)

    by vux984 ( 928602 ) on Monday December 08, 2008 @05:04PM (#26038967)

    Too little, too late. Why take up the space on my PVR when I can live stream it from my PC?

    Too little too late if you have PS3 or xbox360.

    Millions of people don't have and don't want either.

  • Satellite Owners (Score:1, Informative)

    by TheNinjaroach ( 878876 ) on Monday December 08, 2008 @05:08PM (#26039033)

    Tivo's current model lineup does not really offer a solution for satellite subscribers.

    What a surprise, Tivo was too busy in suing Dish Network in court to actually provide a solution for those subscribers. TiVo Wins Appeal On Patents For Pause, Ffwd, Rwd [slashdot.org]

    Patents, making sure you can't build it even when they won't.

  • by hkb ( 777908 ) on Monday December 08, 2008 @05:15PM (#26039139)

    When will submitters like ScuttleMonkey RTFA they are submitting?

    NetFlix isn't coming to the AppleTV version of Boxee, as the AppleTV is not powerful enough, as TFA states.

  • Re:bullshit (Score:1, Informative)

    by The End Of Days ( 1243248 ) on Monday December 08, 2008 @05:17PM (#26039155)

    No, you're supposed to not stream Netflix to your device.

    Not sure where your attitude of entitlement comes from, but since you have it, just pirate. This is a lovely justification for people like you.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 08, 2008 @05:18PM (#26039171)

    Why would it have to be in the backend? It streams over the internet, if your frontend can get to the internet there is no reason to make a mess of things and run the stream through the backend.

    The player requires silverlight/moonlight. There must be some api that the boxee people are getting the stream from.

  • Re:Satellite Owners (Score:3, Informative)

    by zeoslap ( 190553 ) on Monday December 08, 2008 @05:21PM (#26039229) Homepage

    It has nothing to do with the Dish lawsuit, you could never get Tivo on the Dish system.

    The issue is that they lost the contract with DirecTV when Murdoch bought it and started pushing the DVR that his other company(NDS?) owned and built.

  • by JCSoRocks ( 1142053 ) on Monday December 08, 2008 @05:29PM (#26039349)
    I've never had any trouble streaming Netflix through my XBox. I've watched three full seasons of various shows since the update was released and they've all worked flawlessly.
  • by LordNimon ( 85072 ) on Monday December 08, 2008 @05:34PM (#26039413)
    There was a problem over the past 2-3 weeks with poor connectivity, especially in the evenings. The problem should be fixed by now. It is for me.
  • Re:Linux? Really? (Score:3, Informative)

    by mzs ( 595629 ) on Monday December 08, 2008 @05:59PM (#26039807)

    Uh no, I have firefox 3 on a 2 GHz P4 running XP SP2 with the latest version of Silverlight and the Netflix streaming works fine.

  • by SurfTheWorld ( 162247 ) on Monday December 08, 2008 @06:09PM (#26039927) Homepage Journal

    From a press release several weeks/months ago:

    "DIRECTV and TiVo will work together to develop a version of the TiVo® service for DIRECTV's broadband-enabled HD DVR platform. The product will support the latest TiVo and DIRECTV features and services, including TiVo's Universal Swivel Search and TiVo KidZone. TiVo will develop the new HD DVR for an expected launch in the second half of 2009."

    So right now we're locked out but the landscape will improve in the future.

  • Re:Why bother (Score:4, Informative)

    by Dutch Gun ( 899105 ) on Monday December 08, 2008 @06:09PM (#26039937)

    I don't get that: you have this teraflop machines sitting there (a f*cking CELL in the PS3 or a triplecore 3.2GHz PowerPC in the 360, /plenty/ of horsepower both of them) and still you need to stream stuff to it. Wouldn't it be much more economic to just install an application of whatever on that machine (integrated in the firmware or whatever) and have that do all the work? Streaming media to a PS3 or 360 makes them just a very expensive and overpowered video-out. I'd say: put all those flops to work!

    As far as I know, these ARE local apps that are managing the downloading and decoding/playback process. Streaming data from the internet and playing back video won't tax these consoles, but what else is more CPU horsepower going to give you here?

  • by powerlord ( 28156 ) on Monday December 08, 2008 @06:17PM (#26040041) Journal

    Exactly.

    One thing a little bothersome to me is that the summary mentions TiVo HD and TiVo HDXL only working with Cable. Not true. Yeah, they won't work with satellite, but they work fine for over the air signals also (like those new digital ones that are showing up).

    Both have two tuners, each of which can record from any of the current sources at the same time, (so record 2 OTA, 2 Cable or 1 OTA and 1 Cable show, which watching another pre-recorded show and downloading a movie from Amazon ... not bad for a little box under the TV).

  • Re:No Series 2? (Score:3, Informative)

    by jedidiah ( 1196 ) on Monday December 08, 2008 @06:25PM (#26040181) Homepage

    The S2 has a pathetically weak CPU and no corresponding dedicated acceleration hardware.

    It just doesn't have the horsepower.

  • by asv108 ( 141455 ) <asv@nOspam.ivoss.com> on Monday December 08, 2008 @06:31PM (#26040247) Homepage Journal
    I tried out the Netflix player on my Tivo HD last night. The picture was very clear on my HDTV, and the sound was pretty good. People want to complain about the selection, but they do have a lot of TV series available for instant viewing. I like the Tivo interface better than the Xbox 360 application. Overall, I'm very impressed, its yet another reason why Tivo is still the best DVR option available.

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