Entire Transcript of RIAA's Only Trial Now Online 315
NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "The entire transcript of the RIAA's 'perfect storm,' its first and only trial, which resulted in a $222,000 verdict in a case involving 24 MP3's having a retail value of $23.76, is now available online. After over a year of trying, we have finally obtained the transcript of the Duluth, Minnesota, jury trial which took place October 2, 2007, to October 4, 2007, in Capitol Records v. Thomas. Its 643 pages represent a treasure trove for (a) lawyers representing defendants in other RIAA cases, (b) technologists anxious to see how a MediaSentry investigator and the RIAA's expert witness combined to convince the jurors that the RIAA had proved its case, and (c) anybody interested in finding out about such things as the early-morning October 4th argument in which the RIAA lawyer convinced the judge to make the mistake which forced him to eventually vacate the jury's verdict, and the testimony of SONY BMG's Jennifer Pariser in which she 'misspoke' according to the RIAA's Cary Sherman when she testified under oath that making a copy from one's CD to one's computer is 'stealing.' The transcript was a gift from the 'Joel Fights Back Against RIAA' team defending SONY BMG Music Entertainment v. Tenenbaum, in Boston, Massachusetts. I have the transcript in 3 segments: October 2nd (278 pages(PDF), October 3rd (263 pages)(PDF), and October 4th (100 pages)(PDF)."
Re:Cue - no, Clue... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Cue - no, Clue... (Score:5, Informative)
the transcript is public domain. as such, it should be easily available from any law clerk at the courthouse unless the judge orders the court case closed. now the RIAA could file a motion to close the court proceedings - but they would have to have a decent argument as to why that is necessary.
I wonder if this came out now because the RIAA decided to stop suing individuals and work via the ISPs.
Document Mirror (Score:2, Informative)
Mirror [pikhost.com] of the files. My webhost claims I have unlimited bandwidth.. :-)
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Re:That's really awesome (Score:5, Informative)
If one assumes that all the music on my computer is stuff that the RIAA can sue over(some isn't, not sure the %), and ignores that some of the stuff that I have comes from legal purchases and my own rips(some, but not all that much to be honest), and if one uses the $9,250 per song figure from the summary:
My computer has a value of approximately $207,900,000.
For perspective, the current price of gold is $871.20 USD per troy oz. Alternatively, about $28,000 per kilogram of gold.
$207,900,000 / $28,000/kg = 7425 kg of gold
A Ford F150 truck comes in with a weight of 2,197kg.
My computer is worth almost as much as three and a half Ford F150 trucks made of solid gold
You're right Adult film producer... I feel rich, powerful! Excuse me, I'm going to go buy a bigger basement and a new family now.
Re:the "copyright infringement is stealing" argume (Score:4, Informative)
It's not just you, the rest of the world is also subjected to this bullshit.
"Disingenuous" is what some people call it. I think that's too polite.
This just says it all: (Score:5, Informative)
I rest my case.
Re:To Mr Beckerman (Score:5, Informative)
To what extent do you think that the RIAA's representatives believe the case that they advance?
I don't know.
To what extent do you think that matters?
I think it matters.
Do you think that they are bad people
Yes.
or poor counsel for advancing that case?
Yes that too. I think they are a disgrace to my profession.
And then on a different tack, when one is dealing with litigants in person in a case that might have national repercussions, how can one deal effectively with those defendants if you have no confidence in their willingness to abide by confidentiality agreements and every fear that they will post the details on the internet?
I have no idea what you are referring to.
Re:Cue - no, Clue... (Score:1, Informative)
Generally court proceedings are recorded but they are not transcribed (ie put into human-readable format) unless there is a specific reason to do so--because transcription is quite expensive and whoever wants to get the transcription is the person who gets to pay for it.
Example:
http://www.co.berks.pa.us/courts/cwp/view.asp?a=1186&q=445364
Re:She is a dumbass (Score:3, Informative)
Legitimate channels like Jury nullification [wikipedia.org].
Posting anonymously so that I don't get booted off any jury I get picked for. If they find out you know about jury nullification, they don't want you on the jury! If I'm ever on a file-sharing jury, I will refuse to convict, and do everything in my power to convince my fellow jurors of the same.
Re:Anyone RTFA? (Score:2, Informative)
From reading the opening arguments and some of the first witness, the prosecution attempts to make the case that an IP address, MAC address, a consistent username, and a specific taste in music identifies a single person. The defense tries to make the case that they don't. There's more on both sides, but I'd rather not dress up as a member of the Geek Squad and tango while I replace a hard drive.
Re:file share (Score:3, Informative)
Wonder what they would have to say if I started seeding this on a bit torrent client.
Nothing. Court records are not subject to copyright (Westlaw and their ilk aside).
Re:"when she testified under oath... (Score:5, Informative)
"when she testified under oath that making a copy from one's CD to one's computer is 'stealing'."
That one baffled me. I am neither a lawyer nor an American. However, I would assume that a witness' opinion of the legality of a given action is completely irrelevant. Establishing the legality of a given action is a task for the court, not a task for the witness.
Agreed.
So why was a witness asked about the legality of copying a CD?
Beats me.
And why was she breaking her oath (as NYCL is somehow implying) when she did not know the correct answer?
She knew the correct answer. She was deliberately misstating the law in order to improperly inflame the jury against Ms. Thomas, convincing the jurors that even had Ms. Thomas done nothing but copy some CD's onto her hard drive, that in and of itself was a copyright infringement.
Re:Like anybody on /. (Score:0, Informative)
About your blog: nobody gives a shit. Go spam somewhere else.
Re:"when she testified under oath... (Score:4, Informative)
Ms. Pariser is a lawyer and therefore an officer of the court even when she acts as a witness rather than as counsel for a party. Knowing misrepresentation of the law by an officer of the court is unethical and a potential cause for disciplinary action.
Re:Like anybody on /. (Score:3, Informative)
As noted there was a guy who self-pwned himself once like that recently by not posting anon-when he replied to himself with a really racist comment.
I remember it well. But if you're talking about the one I think you are I gotta say that the troll(like all good ones) don't resort to sockpuppetry, they simply tack onto somebody else's previous post a seamless(okay, not always "seamless") transition into a non-sequiteur troll.
/. user is a good example of that type of setup - though new_here is a special case because his/her joke depends on his/her username being a /. meme that somebody will inevitably set up. Nevertheless, the spirit is still the same!
YMMV, but the only people who seem to reply to themselves here are Twitter and non-trolls who need a one-time AC sockpuppet to help set up their usually-sterile jokes. The "new_here"
MAC address (Score:2, Informative)
I'm hardly an expert but, I have been reading the pdf's a bit from the beginning and so far one glaring problem I see is that the MAC address referred to in the opening statements was the MAC of the cable modem and nobody had the MAC address of the actual computer.
I shall keep reading now. I suggest anyone that may be sharing copyrighted material also read it. The more you know the better off you will be if the RIAA ever comes knocking on your door.
Thanks again Ray! great stuff!
Re:the "copyright infringement is stealing" argume (Score:2, Informative)
Here in Korea, they go one step beyond that. "Loaning a disk to a friend is stealing." People at work probably think I'm stealing since I install my own OS and Free software.
I also download music at work. Shock! It's legal because it's CC'ed (Jamendo [jamendo.com]). When I tried to help a coworker out with some teaching material, she said she needed a license for it. I tried to point out the author's license allowed non-commercial use, but she refused to believe it.
They have these giant publicity campaigns but don't bother to mention "may or may not be illegal depending on the license." It's all just illegal to them. The "re-education" is working, too.
Re:Cue - no, Clue... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Cue - no, Clue... (Score:3, Informative)
Yes
http://www.pawb.uscourts.gov/pdfs/transcripts.pdf [uscourts.gov]
While the states can not copyright some things
http://www.wfsu.org/gavel2gavel/briefs/01-897_report.pdf [wfsu.org]
They can allow turd parties to gouge like the RIAA.
http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/transcripts.php [sbscpublicaccess.org]