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Dr. Dobb's Journal Going Web-Only 233

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from the times-change-and-sometimes-that's-good dept.
paleshadows writes "The first issue of Dr. Dobb's Journal (DDJ) was published in January 1976. A few days ago, Herb Sutter (the chair of the ISO C++ committee and a long-time DDJ columnist) announced through his latest blog post that, 'as of January 2009, Dr. Dobb's Journal is permanently suspending print publication and going web-only.' This follows an earlier announcement that PC Magazine is to become digital-only, too, as of February 2009. To those of us who enjoy reading such stuff away from the computer these are bad news, as there seems to be no other major technical programmers' magazines left standing."
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  • Well, you could shell between $300 and $400 for one of the hit-and-miss eReaders currently available [cnet.com]. Or you could shell out between around $600 [ebay.com] for a slightly less elegant eBook reading solution that with can also act as your car stereo, navigation (with some work/extra parts), and more-useful-than-most general purpose netbook. I know which route I'm taking (although I'll probably wait to see what netbook-tablet offerings there are at CES).
    • Re:Missing Options (Score:5, Insightful)

      by OrangeTide (124937) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:11PM (#26345477) Homepage Journal

      Magazines shouldn't need batteries.

      • by Ngarrang (1023425)

        Magazines shouldn't need batteries

        Information shouldn't kill trees. While I don't claim to be very green, I see this as a good next step. The publishing industry will survive, they just need to stop fighting the changing face of the reader and work with the flow. I seem to remember Hollywood boo-hooing how the VCR would destroy them.

        • by click2005 (921437)

          I seem to remember Hollywood boo-hooing how the VCR would destroy them.

          Very Crap Remakes?

        • Re:Missing Options (Score:5, Interesting)

          by gnick (1211984) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @02:37PM (#26347087) Homepage

          What's so bad about paper? Most of our paper comes from trees in managed timberlands, which are currently replanting twice as fast [tappi.org] as they're harvesting (at least in the U.S.) And much of it comes from tree farms [wikipedia.org], which are wonderfully eco-friendly. We use a helluva lot of paper, but it's not beyond sustainable levels yet and it's wonderfully convenient. And paper's a renewable and easily recyclable resource, unlike the materials used in e-readers.

          Does somebody more eco-wise want to set me straight and explain why an e-reader is so much "greener" than dead trees?

          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            by dwye (1127395)

            > Does somebody more eco-wise want to set me straight and
            > explain why an e-reader is so much "greener" than dead trees?

            The paper-making process is very non-green. Really, it should be called the waste-making process, with paper as a minor byproduct. OTOH, I doubt that most e-readers are all that perfect in their manufacturing processes, either.

            Of course, the high-quality magazine paper (like DDJ is printed upon) is ecologically worse than book paper, or pulp (ala WWII SF mags), too. The high clay

        • by SirGeek (120712)
          Information shouldn't kill trees. While I don't claim to be very green, I see this as a good next step. The publishing industry will survive, they just need to stop fighting the changing face of the reader and work with the flow. I seem to remember Hollywood boo-hooing how the VCR would destroy them.

          I don't think this is REALLY about anything other than declining subscriptions. I used to subscribe toDr. Dobbs (and had been a regular subscriber for 14+ years) until I sat down and figured out the ad pages

      • by Hatta (162192)

        If you'd rather kill trees than use batteries, there's a way for you to do that.

    • The iPoo (Score:5, Funny)

      by goombah99 (560566) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:11PM (#26345481)

      The thing about all the readers is that I simply would not use one in the bathroom for a lot of sound reasons I'm sure you can imagine.

      But it seems like one could create a bathroom reader that would be welcome.

      Scrap the Kindle and come up with the iPoo.

      What I want is a reader that is bathroom and bathub friendly. Also one I could take outdoors and not worry about it getting rained on or something if I happen to leave it out on the deck by accident.

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by goombah99 (560566)

        Thinking a bit more about this there is a feature that makes newspapers and magazines so bathroom freindly that will be hard to recreate on a reader.

        Namley, parallel accessibility. When I sit on my thrown I don't go there to read a specific article. I browse the magazine for something that look intriguing. It's hard to manage that sort of page flipping and scanning on a reader. But it's essential to the use mode.

        • Fortunately, there are devices that will let you do just that. [google.com]
        • Re:The iPoo (Score:4, Funny)

          by vux984 (928602) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @05:10PM (#26349807)

          Thinking a bit more about this there is a feature that makes newspapers and magazines so bathroom freindly that will be hard to recreate on a reader.

          Indeed!

          Namley, parallel accessibility. When I sit on my thrown I don't go there to read a specific article. I browse the magazine for something that look intriguing. It's hard to manage that sort of page flipping and scanning on a reader. But it's essential to the use mode.

          Er..uh...yeah... I thought you were going to point out that, in a pinch you can use the magazines/newspapers as a backup supply of TP, something that will be hard to recreate on a reader... for obvious reasons.

          But your point is good too, I guess. Still, I can pull up a major news portal... or /. on a PC and then aimlessly pick ariticles of interest... surely this sort of functionality could be added to an ebook.

      • Re:The iPoo (Score:4, Informative)

        by kv9 (697238) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @02:05PM (#26346417) Homepage

        The thing about all the readers is that I simply would not use one in the bathroom for a lot of sound reasons I'm sure you can imagine.

        I actually can't. I have a friend that's always in the can with his laptop. a reader should be a no brainer.

      • by El Torico (732160)
        But it seems like one could create a bathroom reader that would be welcome.

        Of course it will only be used for reading technical magazines, especially the wall mounted model.

      • Re:The iPoo (Score:5, Interesting)

        by gnick (1211984) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @02:45PM (#26347261) Homepage

        What I want is a reader that is bathroom and bathub friendly. Also one I could take outdoors and not worry about it getting rained on or something if I happen to leave it out on the deck by accident.

        Actually Amazon sells transparent covers for the Kindle [amazon.com] that make it fairly impervious to rain, spills, tub accidents, etc. And, if you're worried about a bathroom disaster, they're priced low enough that they can be treated as disposable (I've actually thrown more than one away myself.)

        Why one of these isn't bundled when you purchase a Kindle, I have no idea.

    • by stg (43177)
      Not to mention devices you may already have, such as your cell phone. I read e-books all the time on my N95, and while the screen size isn't great (and is really not practical for most technical material/magazines), I've read dozens of books on it. And since I carry it most of the time, I can read anywhere I have to stop and wait for a few minutes.
    • by Rakishi (759894)

      I'd like my ebook reading solution to not require a power cord to even finish one book on. Just as a comparison the kindle can run for a week straight, wireless off, while that notebook you linked to is lucky to run for three hours.

  • Well then (Score:5, Informative)

    by geekoid (135745) <`moc.oohay' `ta' `dnaltropnidad'> on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:11PM (#26345463) Homepage Journal

    just print it out.

  • To those of us who enjoy reading such stuff away from the computer

    eBook readers? smart phones? netbooks? I mean, come on, people! If you're in to tech you surely know there are alternatives to big, clunky desktop computers and dead trees.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by mcgrew (92797) *

      Some of us just love PAPER. I read Doctorow's Little Brother online, but I'm buying the paper version.

      I used to be an avid reader of both Dr. Dobbs and PC Mag, but that was when personal computing was fairly new and the magazine racks in the grocery stores were full of computer magazines. Now all the magazines in the stores are women's fluff rags; People, Home and Graden, ladies Home Journal. Odd since I see as many men as women in the store, and women these days are into much the same things as men.

      PC Mag

    • eBook readers? smart phones? netbooks? I mean, come on, people! If you're in to tech you surely know there are alternatives to big, clunky desktop computers and dead trees.

      And if you're into technology you should also surely know that none of these devices should ever be taken into The John!

  • not surprised (Score:5, Insightful)

    by stoolpigeon (454276) * <bittercode@gmail> on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:12PM (#26345487) Homepage Journal

    When I got my January copy it was in a plastic bag with a brochure for sd west. The brochure was thicker than the magazine. I almost tossed the magazine and kept the brochure. So much has been cut back over the years. I will miss the bug of the month [gimpel.com]. It was an ad but it was fun. Maybe they'll still have it on the web version.

    • Me neither. I noticed the quality of the paper was starting to deteriorate over time. It became thinner, not as glossy, though not quite as bad as the stock used for US phone books.

      Couple that with the decreasing thickness, and it was plain to see that the writing was on the wall (or, more accurately, on the screen) for DDJ.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Yeah, the in-depth programming articles in the dead tree version have been gone for several years, since M&T sold it to CMP.

      I think it's a law.... any good magazine will be bought by CMP and turned into crap.

  • Journalists (Score:5, Interesting)

    by AKAImBatman (238306) * <.akaimbatman. .at. .gmail.com.> on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:13PM (#26345511) Homepage Journal

    To those of us who enjoy reading such stuff away from the computer these are bad news, as there seems to be no other major technical programmers' magazines left standing.

    Tell me about it. I've professionally written some articles in the past, and it seems like there's almost nothing left to write for anymore. Either the magazine is so specific so as to be little more than an advertisement (e.g. Oracle or DB2 magazine) or the magazine doesn't pay (in any meaningful sense of the term) for articles. (e.g. Java Developers Journal) Time will tell if web-based publications will manage to support the same eco-system of authors or if it's time to go write a book.

    Probably just time to write a book. ;-)

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by JagRoth (115052)

      Probably just time to write a book. ;-)

      What are these "books" that you speak of? And can I get an RSS feed of it when it's done?

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by vurian (645456)
      Don't do it. Really -- don't do write a book. I did. I had a pretty nice sideline writing articles for DDJ, InformIT and similar, each bringing in between $400 and $1000 -- and then I got uppity and wrote a book (http://valdyas.org/python/index.html). Total income for about a year of working every evening and all weekends, ~ $400. Books don't pay, are a lot of work and you'll be badgered for years by impecunious students for free paper copies, because you're a rich author and the e-copy is so inconvenient.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by AKAImBatman (238306) *

        Wow, that's awful. How many copies did you manage to sell? Even if the book sold poorly, I'm shocked that your royalties would be that low. Did you at least get an advance? Or some other income? I mean, your subject is very much a niche, so low numbers are to be expected [larkware.com], but that's some of the worst returns I've ever heard of.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by stephanruby (542433)
        May be your choice of publisher, or your lack of one, was the problem? Personally, I've never even heard of your publisher and I've never even seen your book on a shelf. Not only that, but your book was published pretty recently and it still doesn't have the search inside feature on amazon, nor does it have a table of content, nor a table index, it doesn't have any customer reviews, and it doesn't even have a picture of its book cover on amazon. What's up with that? May be, you should just have used that $4
  • They where wonderful back in the day. DDJ is down to like 5 pages. The rest are long gone. Back in the day those where the best way to learn about computers. Now we have the Internet. I find it so interesting that so many computer magazines have survived.

    • by Nasarius (593729)
      I liked CUJ (C/C++ Users Journal), which got absorbed by DDJ a couple years ago. For people serious about improving their craft, the Internet is generally a lousy substitute. At least there are still books, for subjects large enough to warrant one.
      • by LWATCDR (28044)

        That was also a good one. Along with Computer Language. I don't know if the Internet is such a lousy substitute. The problem with the Internet is you must be your own editor. You decide what is quality and what is trash. Back in the good old days others filtered the trash for you.

  • 2600 (Score:5, Insightful)

    by VirtBlue (1233488) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:13PM (#26345517)
    2600 is still in print form.
    • by abigor (540274)

      That's not really a programmer's magazine, and certainly not in the same league as DDJ.

    • I see someone modded you funny, but IME 2600 has been just as informative and educational as DDJ if not more so. Including PC Magazine as a professional developer's magazine in the summary is what should be modded "funny".

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by Evets (629327) *

        Agreed. There's always at least one article in 2600 that makes me happy I picked it up.

        PC Magazine turned into a big ad years ago. At least Computer Shopper is straight forward about it.

    • by mcgrew (92797) *

      Yeah, but they stopped putting the phone hack whistles in Captain Crunch =(

  • Damn damn damn (Score:4, Interesting)

    by wiredog (43288) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:13PM (#26345519) Journal

    Not surprised, the last issue was very thin, but still. First Byte (I still miss Byte, see this 10 year old issue [byte.com] for why.), then PC Mag, now DDJ. Ah well, another subscription to not renew.

    At least Linux Journal is still a Real Magazine.

    • I still miss Byte, see this 10 year old issue for why.

      I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, because when I read stuff like:

      Exceptions are run-time errors or interrupts that force a CPU to suspend normal program execution. (Java is a special case: The Java virtual machine [VM] checks for some run-time errors in software and can throw an exception without involving the hardware CPU.) For example, if a program tries to open a nonexistent data file, the CPU returns an exception that means "File not found." If the program's error-trapping code is poor or absent,

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by bzipitidoo (647217)

        Glad I haven't missed anything by ignoring all those tech rags. That's pretty bad.

        I did subscribe to Dr. Dobbs once. But I found it frustrating. They have so much pressure to tighten the writing and shrink the articles that much info is cut or just left out. Sometimes some of those details are crucial, and their absence makes the articles difficult. I am thinking especially of an article on the then new Linux ELF format. I still don't have a firm grasp of ELF's scope and how ELF works and why, and t

  • The ACM Queue journals and Communications of the ACM are released as PDFs - very useful when searching my MacBook files for research or reading material. I especially like the way I get a paper version of Communications of the ACM to read (mostly cover to cover) and then I permanently keep the (searchable) PDF version.

    Dr. Dobb's Journal has become a very thin magazine and for the type of content I think that a web based only presense will hopefully work well for them.

  • ....just use your iPhone while you're on the can to read it. Isn't that why they upgraded it to 3G?

    • by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@nosPAM.mindless.com> on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:45PM (#26346031) Journal

      ....just use your iPhone while you're on the can to read it.

      Sure, that's possible, but what good is an iPhone if you run out of toilet paper? 3G won't help you there.

      • by Khan (19367)

        True. I suppose you can use your hand in those situations...or the iPhone. Perhaps someone can create a small TP printer and application so that if you ever do run out, you can always use your iPhone to make more. Now THAT would be really handy :-)

        • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

          by Farmer Tim (530755)

          Not just handy, you could download party political statements, marketing hype, photos of celebrities, etcetera, and make some very satisfying commentary, which you could then dispose of so it would never be seen again.

          Hmm, sounds a lot like blogging.

      • Sure, that's possible, but what good is an iPhone if you run out of toilet paper? 3G won't help you there.

        Well, there is always iFart....

  • by mknewman (557587) *
    Most of these journals have RSS feeds. Get a good offline reader that will download the entire articles and you will be set.
  • Print is expensive (Score:4, Interesting)

    by mgkimsal2 (200677) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:18PM (#26345607) Homepage

    Capt Obvious here. :)

    I recently started http://groovymag.com as a PDF-only publication, and have had interest from people in print versions. At the small numbers we're at, it's probably about an extra $5 per copy just to cover print and postage, which I don't think most people are willing to pay that right now, though maybe I'll be proven wrong.

    We're in a niche market, so we don't rely on advertising, and have no plans to do so. I suspect we may see more products forgoing the advertising model altogether, and focusing on providing value for 'micropayments' - $2-$4/month for access to content. I think the 'micro' in micropayments has traditionally had people thinking about "2 cents per page view" sort of thing, but that's never proven feasible.

    What might arise from this downturn in advertising-driven publications are content networks of like minded publications that offer access to content from all sites for a set fee. Aren't there some industries that already do this (ahem - adult?)

    • by geekoid (135745)

      Yes, but the content of all the sites have to ahve some value that makes them worth paying for.
      A market not available for free elsewhere.

      I don't see anything at grovymag I can't find for free somewhere else.

      Add to that it's a general magazine, I ahve no idea how many issues a year will be on interest, si I'm not likely to buy a subscription uless you have a proven history.

      On another issue, you don't seem so niche that advertising won't work. Why do you come to that conclusion? I'm sure there is a good reas

      • by mgkimsal2 (200677)

        It's somewhat chicken and egg - you don't really know the content in the magazines cause you don't see it until you buy it.

        There's not enough stuff out there that's targeted at groovy users specifically. This is not saying that we don't ever run ads. We've got one (for training) and another one for next month. The goal is not to *rely* on advertising though. That's the distinction I was trying to make.

        Sure you can find *most* information on the internet for free. The value add here is, ideally, a mix o

    • by zappepcs (820751)

      I'd go for a subscription if it gave me access to online/digital content from my choice of x magazines. A common format, easy to search, with cross references between them. Of course RSS feeds too. I would especially enjoy a mix of computer/programming/electronics information like this. On paper it just isn't possible to get the features I want, but electronically? Very cool and worth subscribing to.

      You know who I am? I'm the guy at the table near the end of the bar, having a beer and reading PDFs of print

      • by mgkimsal2 (200677)

        Exactly. Other PDF mags do it, as does GroovyMag. No DRM, indexable searchable PDF bundled with relevant code examples ready to cut/paste or run in some cases. There's so many opportunities in electronic publishing that go above and beyond the traditional print model.

        However, some people still like print. I believe people that want print will be forced in to paying an ever-increasing premium for that luxury in the coming years.

  • by pgn674 (995941) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:29PM (#26345761) Homepage
    This news reminds me of a recent, funny, and relevant strip from the comic Sheldon: http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/081229.html [sheldoncomics.com]
  • there seems to be no other major technical programmers' magazines

    Doesn't Computer [computer.org] qualify as a major technical programmers' magazine? It is the official publication of the official software engineering society...

    (It certainly doesn't include enough hardware articles to keep me interested, so I assume it fascinates hard-core technical programmers.)

  • PC Magazine... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Monkey_Genius (669908)
    Never really was a "major technical programmers' magazine". It was simply a rag filled with useless advertisements and a forum for John C. Dvorak to spout his nonsense. I stopped reading it ten years ago when it became irrelevant.
  • by DreadfulGrape (398188) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:39PM (#26345907)

    MacTech journal has been in continuous print publication since 1984.

  • PC Magazine? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by xdroop (4039) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:41PM (#26345961) Homepage Journal
    I have to admit my first thought was: when the hell did PC Magazine become a technical programmer's magazine?
  • At least we can still read the good word from Bob.
  • I gave up on print media after my Byte subscription was terminated with the end of their print edition. Bah! Humbug!
    • by ishmalius (153450)

      I quit reading Byte when it changed from a resource for tech info to a shopping guide.

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by British (51765)

        I swear Byte magazine was 70% ads, 30% content. You had 5-6 pages of ads in the middle of articles. I wouldn't be surprised if they just forgot the last part of the article, and continued on with the ads. At least with "Computer Shopper" you were expecting ads. Sadly, PC Magazine was useless to the common user unless you were looking to upgrade. Buy Buy buy buy buy. I miss the magazines that had type-in programs.

  • "To those of us who enjoy reading such stuff away from the computer these are bad news, as there seems to be no other major technical programmers' magazines left standing."

    This is another nostalgia-stuffed feel-good statement I see burrowed into our news stories from time to time as we shed the old and embrace the new. Me? I just don't give a damn. Let them die. I haven't purchased a magazine outside of an airport in this millennium and I don't know anyone else who has, either. There isn't one thing a magaz

    • by VJ42 (860241) * on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @02:05PM (#26346447)
      Paper's going nowhere fast. We'll still use it for archival purposes, will your RSS feeds, PDAs and Kindles last a thousand years? Paper originals of the Magna Carta [wikipedia.org] still exist today. If it had been written in an early .doc format I would already have trouble reading it, I can go to the British library [www.bl.uk] to read a copy of the Magna Carta written in 1215.
    • Good in theory. But...

      Today we have our laptops, Kindles, RSS feeds, incredible PDAs, hell, my cell phone does more than first computer ever could, ten times over.

      I used to read books and magazines on my Palm tungsten. Then I switched to blackberry, and I have nearly $1000 in ebooks that I can't read. At all. Why would people want to run that risk? The capabilities are there, but after /years/ of ebook publishing there's still no standard that will ensure this can't happen. Print media can always be read, no matter what platform you're using.

      Of course, there's a much more practical concern: after 12-16 hours, I want to /stop/ looking at a monitor for a while.

      Just please don't give me this nostalgic wasn't-it-great-back-then crap about how you used to be so excited for the new issue to come in the mail. Rather, be excited about seeing your RSS feed updated. Shift your focus, enjoy your nostalgia, but put it into perspective.

      Nostalgia is longing for something past for its own sake. In this case, there's a measurable difference in quality. I can count on one hand the number of web sites that deliver the kind of quality technical information that DDJ and CUJ used to provide.

      And among those web sites, it's still a challenge to find the valid, useful information hidden amidst blog entries where folks will hold forth on topics they know little to nothing about.

      I haven't purchased a magazine outside of an airport in this millennium and I don't know anyone else who has, either. There isn't one thing a magazine could tell me that I haven't read (and probably re-re-read) many times over.

      In other words, "I don't use this, and therefore nobody else does either"?

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by smoker2 (750216)

        I used to read books and magazines on my Palm tungsten. Then I switched to blackberry, and I have nearly $1000 in ebooks that I can't read. At all.

        I used to have a Palm Tungsten too. I bought a lot of ebooks at the time and I still have access to them on my WM5 powered HTC phone. Have you tried eReader software ? It is free, and I believe you can re-download any books you have already paid for. If it won't run on the crackberry, then maybe you should have considered a different device rather than throw away

  • by ishmalius (153450) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:55PM (#26346183)

    If you can't read German yet, then maybe it's time to learn. This has always been one of the best computer magazines in print. It's in-depth and hands-on. I built one of their hardware projects once (an SBC). Possibly still have it. http://www.heise.de/ct/ [heise.de]

  • I was taking a boo through the PC Mag. article, it dosn't mention anything about the subscription price. In their "subscribe" page, it states $0.62 per digital copy (24 issue subscription). Anyone know what the old price for the hard copy was? I curious how many new subscribers they will need to obtain inorder to maintain their overhead costs... There was also a link to get a free trial subscription if you like. I wonder how long they will keep that link up for the free trial edition. Also, they only requir

  • I haven't seen Dr. Dobbs on the shelf in probably over a year - and that includes the bookstores in Redmond.
  • Bittersweet (Score:3, Interesting)

    by digitalhermit (113459) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @02:17PM (#26346691) Homepage

    I've been reading Dr. Dobbs for a few years.. Same with Linux Journal, Linux Magazine, SysAdmin magazine. Though I enjoy thumbing through the magazine while I'm - uhh - busy, keeping the back issues is a pain. They're not easily searchable, take up a lot of space, are not cut/paste friendly, etc..

    The era of the print computer magazine is in its last throes. I raise a glass to Compute!, Antic, Byte, SysAdmin, and all the others that entertained me through the years.

  • CoDe

    (Sorry, couldn't resist)

  • Yet Another Bailout (YAB)?

    Well, I hope that the paper industry executives have the common sense to fly to Washington, DC in paper planes, instead of corporate jets.

  • by panda (10044)

    If they are going web-only at DDJ, they seriously need to do something about their site design. It is atrociously ugly and horribly inconvenient.

  • I recall the Stanford Math library betting Dr. Dobbs. in the late 1970s. It was more like a newspaper, or a "zine" what self-published magazines were called then. It was loosely associated the the homebrew computing clubs popping up in places.
  • I used to like the mag, but this site is just plain awful. It's hard to find an article or anything, and it has autostart video. yuck. Can someone please hit them with a clue stick?
  • There dead! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by John Sokol (109591) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @03:03PM (#26347619) Homepage Journal

      I have seen this stupid decision done before.
      To accountants it's great on paper, web site's cheaper, and great traffic.

      But they don't take into account that it's the print magazine that's been driving there traffic.

      As soon as they stop the printed magazine people will slowly stop going to there site and they will slowly run out of cash.

  • by Mesa MIke (1193721) on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @03:27PM (#26348041) Homepage

    Running Light Without Overbyte.

  • by mi (197448) <slashdot-2014@virtual-estates.net> on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @08:54PM (#26352257) Homepage

    Dobb's Journal is permanently suspending [emphasis mine] print publication and going web-only.'

    Is not ending the correct term?

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