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FSFE Launches Free PDF Readers Campaign 198

FSFE Fellow writes "The Fellowship of the Free Software Foundation Europe is proud to announce its latest initiative: pdfreaders.org, a site providing information about PDF with links to Free Software PDF readers for all major operating systems. FSFE president Georg Greve says: 'Interoperability, competition and choice are primary benefits of Open Standards that translate into vendor-independence and better value for money for customers. Although many versions of PDF offer all these benefits for formatted text and documents, files in PDF formats typically come with information that users need to use a specific product. pdfreaders.org provides an alternative to highlight the strengths of PDF as an Open Standard.'"
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FSFE Launches Free PDF Readers Campaign

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  • Why all the buzz? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Dyinobal ( 1427207 ) on Monday February 02, 2009 @11:30PM (#26704385)
    It's a PDF reader, I know acrobat is crummy but honestly. This seem a bit silly. I use foxit and I'm happy with it. FOSS or not I just need to read the file nothing more.
  • Try using DJVU (Score:5, Informative)

    by martin-boundary ( 547041 ) on Monday February 02, 2009 @11:32PM (#26704411)
    I much prefer the format for all my electronic documents. [wikipedia.org]

    It often produces much smaller compressed files (typically about half the size of a PDF), and there are open source viewers for many platforms. It has plenty of support for annotations, OCR, internal links etc just like PDF, and you can extract the parts and structure of a Djvu document in XML with command line tools and modify them easily.

    It's also very easy to cut a Djvu document into individual pages, which lets you publish big documents on websites so that users only need to download the actual pages that they are interested in reading (eg if they want to preview the file without downloading the whole thing). This saves bandwidth, user waiting time, etc.

    Last but not least, the Djview viewer renders pages much faster than Acrobat or Xpdf in my experience - so much faster that I regularly get annoyed at the sloness of flipping pages in PDF format. The first thing I do with any paper in PDF format is to convert it using pdf2djvu.

  • Re:Is this useful? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Chabo ( 880571 ) on Monday February 02, 2009 @11:37PM (#26704443) Homepage Journal

    Oh?

    From Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]

    PDF is an open standard that was officially published on July 1, 2008 by the ISO as ISO 32000-1:2008.

    This isn't the same as DeCSS cracking CSS or OpenOffice cracking the .doc format.

  • Re:Is this useful? (Score:3, Informative)

    by bcrowell ( 177657 ) on Monday February 02, 2009 @11:41PM (#26704469) Homepage

    Personally, I've never had a problem with Adobe Reader on any platform, and this site seems to be blatantly against it.

    The site is a directory of open-source pdf readers. AR isn't open source.

    Even if you don't care about open source, there are serious problems with AR:

    1. It's too slow for me to be willing to use it as a browser plugin.
    2. By default, it will execute javascript that's embedded in pdf files. This is both a privacy (people can track readers) and a security issue. After the first buffer-overflow exploit was announced, I kept it on my system. After the second buffer-overflow exploit, I deleted it. (If you want somewhat more security, disable JS: go to Edit, Preferences, JavaScript, and uncheck "Enable Acrobat JavaScript".)

    The main functionality that AR has that isn't available in competing open-source plugins is all functionality related to DRM. I get along fine with Evince.

  • by GF678 ( 1453005 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @12:16AM (#26704713)

    Whenever the Adobe Reader (or Acrobat Pro for that matter) is brought into a Slashdot discussion, people invaribaly mention the fact that it insists on checking for updates, which is completely true. It's a pain, and some people also use it as an example of what they hate about Windows.

    However, what I'm more surprised about is that a bunch of geeks aren't capable of exploring the options of the update applet:

    * Run Adobe Reader/Acrobat Pro, click Help menu -> Check for updates...
    * Let it perform a scan, then regardless of whether it found anything to update or not, click Preferences when it appears, and uncheck the "Automatically check for Adobe updates" checkbox.
    * Click OK, let it scan again for some reason, then hit Quit. Now it will never bother you again.

    Now of course, the default should be for updates to NOT be automatically installed. If necessary it should perform scans by default, but have the update notification unobtrusive, like a little icon in the main GUI for example.

    Anyway, I provide these instructions because even though we're supposedly a site full of high-intellect individuals, I continually see this complaint and wonder why people can't just try to solve the problem themselves, either through poking with the options like every geek should (it's fun to explore stuff, isn't it?), or simply Googling for an answer.

  • Re:Is this useful? (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @12:26AM (#26704805)
    Just use VLC [videolan.org]. It plays pretty much everything.
  • Re:Is this useful? (Score:3, Informative)

    by socsoc ( 1116769 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @12:48AM (#26704997)

    7 is pretty old in their release timeline...

    I have a 200mb install of 9. There is no reason to have that big of a footprint for something that is meant to view PDFs.

  • by Killer Eye ( 3711 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @02:25AM (#26705631)

    I prefer free software most of the time anyway, but it is astounding how bad Adobe's Acrobat Reader has become.

    On Linux, I now use /usr/bin/xpdf on all PDFs by default: it's ugly, but it is incredibly fast to open, and has worked for every document so far.

    On Mac OS X, I continue to be impressed with how good the built-in Preview app really is. I've never had a reason to use anything else.

    Acrobat Reader 7 on Solaris was so bulky, slow, and full of Annoying Flashy Ads (TM), that I actually kept around an older version (5.0.9) of acroread in order to have better performance and a less irritating GUI.

  • Re:What? No Foxit? (Score:3, Informative)

    by (Score.5, Interestin ( 865513 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @02:28AM (#26705655)

    Linux and OSX seem to have decent free PDF readers. It's only Windows that is lacking.

    Only if you pretend that readers like Foxit (and a few other lesser-known ones) don't exist. Given the choice between Foxit and having to install KDE for Windows to run Ocular (good grief, how can PDFReaders.org even list that as a serious proposition?) I'll take Foxit any day. Sadly, it seems to be slowly succumbing to the Acrobat bloat effect, but it's still generally usable.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @08:56AM (#26707943)

    How many of these require javascript or some other non-FOSS implemented feature? [ctan.org] The fact of the matter is that interactive PDFs are useful. You can essentially use them as a webpage, but everything is in one file and you don't have to worry about the other side, say, missing an obscure font. For example, I'm working on writing a math textbook and being able to include self-marking javascript tests for people to test themselves with would be very cool.

  • Please stop the FUD (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @12:26PM (#26711199)
    WinRAR is based on RAR. The massively cross-platform unRAR source is available under a very liberal license:

    The source code of UnRAR utility is freeware. This means:

    1. All copyrights to RAR and the utility UnRAR are exclusively owned by the author - Alexander Roshal.

    2. The UnRAR sources may be used in any software to handle RAR archives without limitations free of charge, but cannot be used to re-create the RAR compression algorithm, which is proprietary. Distribution of modified UnRAR sources in separate form or as a part of other software is permitted, provided that it is clearly stated in the documentation and source comments that the code may not be used to develop a RAR (WinRAR) compatible archiver.

    3. The UnRAR utility may be freely distributed. It is allowed to distribute UnRAR inside of other software packages.

    4. THE RAR ARCHIVER AND THE UnRAR UTILITY ARE DISTRIBUTED "AS IS". NO WARRANTY OF ANY KIND IS EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED. YOU USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. THE AUTHOR WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR DATA LOSS, DAMAGES, LOSS OF PROFITS OR ANY OTHER KIND OF LOSS WHILE USING OR MISUSING THIS SOFTWARE.

    5. Installing and using the UnRAR utility signifies acceptance of these terms and conditions of the license.

    6. If you don't agree with terms of the license you must remove UnRAR files from your storage devices and cease to use the utility.

    Thank you for your interest in RAR and UnRAR.



    Alexander L. Roshal

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