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Court Upholds AP "Quasi-Property" Rights On Hot News 169

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "A federal court ruled that the AP can sue competitors for 'quasi-property' rights on hot news, as well as for copyright infringement and several other claims. The so-called 'hot news' doctrine was created by a judge 90 years ago in another case, where the AP sued a competitor for copying wartime reporting and bribing its employees to send them a copy of unreleased news. The courts' solution was to make hot news a form of 'quasi-property' distinct from copyright, in part because facts cannot be copyrighted. But now the AP is making use of the precedent again, going after AHN which competes with the AP, alleging that they're somehow copying the AP's news. The AP has been rather busy with lawsuits lately, so even though the AP has a story about their own lawsuit, we won't link to it."
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Court Upholds AP "Quasi-Property" Rights On Hot News

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  • by PitaBred ( 632671 ) <slashdot&pitabred,dyndns,org> on Tuesday February 24, 2009 @08:04PM (#26976967) Homepage
    There's a point where the ubiquity of an acronym is so much that it doesn't NEED explaining. Do you need me to type that I live in the United States of America (USA)? Or would you get it from the context of what I was saying because it's a common acronym? The AP has been around for so long and has it's name in so many places that I'd think almost all people reading it would know it.
  • by Geof ( 153857 ) on Tuesday February 24, 2009 @08:18PM (#26977077) Homepage

    I just thought I should point that out. Plagiarism is claiming someone else's work as your own. Sharing does not imply plagiarism. The vast majority of copyright infringement is *not* plagiarism.

    One of the foundations of international copyright (and an aspect of it not strongly respected by the United States) is moral rights, including the right of the author to be given credit. I find it ironic that vigorous enforcement of copyright actually creates an incentive for sharers and borrowers to obscure the source or credit of material. This makes their activity harder to detect, and easier for them to defend ("I got this from AP" is kind of a dead giveaway).

    If copyright law was closer to actual social practice, this kind of plagiarism would likely be much less common.

    Personally, I find clear cases of plagiarism to be utterly dishonest and far worse than sharing.

  • by Locke2005 ( 849178 ) on Tuesday February 24, 2009 @08:32PM (#26977149)
    We have IP for a reason: it helps make social structures work better. We have only had the legal concept of IP for a few hundred years now. Are you saying social structures didn't work before then? I think the ancient Egyptians, Mayans, Greeks, Romans, Chinese, and many other civilizations too numerous to mention would probably disagree with you on that one.
  • by hackstraw ( 262471 ) on Tuesday February 24, 2009 @08:42PM (#26977213)

    At what point does this end though? You can't own a fact.

    You can sue over them though, as the Big sports associations have:

    This one covers "Hot scores" [wired.com].

    Back in 1996 this was apparently a controversial thing. Info here about owning facts here [cptech.org] and on the same site here [cptech.org].

    And there are still attempts to sue fantasy sports like this one [yahoo.com], but I've never heard of this kind of suit being won by the plaintiffs.

    Stranger things have been upheld in court.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 24, 2009 @09:01PM (#26977377)

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  • by artor3 ( 1344997 ) on Tuesday February 24, 2009 @09:02PM (#26977383)

    You have to consider what is best for society. If news is unprotected, then it's in everyone's best interest to copy the facts from another source. It's a prisoner's dilemma, and unfortunately greedy companies ALWAYS choose to defect, which means anyone who isn't a sucker will have to either defect as well (leaving us with no source for news whatsoever) or change the rules of the game (which the AP is trying to do).

    More power to them.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 25, 2009 @01:17AM (#26978881)

    Indeed. IANAL either, but I have done some research into this specific stuff.

    Non-profit organizations are a subject that confuse many. On the one hand, we have things like charitable organizations. You get tax breaks for donating stuff to these.

    On the other hand, you have non-profit organizations like my alma mater's book store. They are bound by their charter to invest everything that comes out as "profit" on the balance sheet, back into the company. Moreover, these investments are supposed to help the student body -- they could invest in mutual funds if they applied the dividends towards lower prices, for example. (IANAL is especially relevant here. I am definitely not a tax lawyer.)

    This is decidedly not a charity, and you do not get tax breaks for donations. On the other hand, they get some tax breaks in exchange for creating a sustainable business serving a specific and essential need in the community.

    Heck, you could potentially have a non-profit publicly traded company.

  • by ultranova ( 717540 ) on Wednesday February 25, 2009 @05:29AM (#26979927)

    Why would someone want to bypass a user's preference to not see signatures, especially since it requires extra work?

    The signature in question appears to be an advertisement for a web site. Advertisers in general try to force people to see their ads. In other words, the signature is spam, and typing it by hand (or script) bypasses the spam filter.

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