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Norwegian Broadcasting Sets Up Its Own Tracker 187

eirikso writes with an interesting story from Norway; the state broadcaster there has decided to put up some of its content on BitTorrent. "The tracker is based on the same OpenTracker software that the Pirate Bay has been using for the last couple of years. By using BitTorrent we can reach our audience with full quality, unencrypted media files. Experience from our early tests show that if we're the best provider of our own content we also gain control of it."
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Norwegian Broadcasting Sets Up Its Own Tracker

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  • Re:Umm... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 08, 2009 @06:03PM (#27114945)

    No. You are in the right universe.

    Just wait and see what happens to their control when they no longer want to provide something.

  • Re:War! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by AliasMarlowe ( 1042386 ) on Sunday March 08, 2009 @06:15PM (#27115053) Journal

    Will this mean war? Norway vs the EU! nay! against the whole world!

    They have a decent amount of oil & gas, which the EU and others desperately need.
    They also have healthy fish stocks, through fairly competent management of fisheries. The EU regularly howls of unfair competition in fish, as the EU has rapaciously plundered its own stocks, and continues overfishing at destructive levels.

    It's the EU that will cave in, not Norway. Disclaimer: I'm not Norwegian, but did visit there twice (1983 and 1998), and changed plane in Oslo a few times.

  • by areusche ( 1297613 ) on Sunday March 08, 2009 @06:44PM (#27115253)
    Which is an excellent codec for maximum compression vs quality. I like xvid like anything other guy, but when it comes to quality/size mp4 with h.264 is great.
  • by eirikso ( 1009135 ) on Sunday March 08, 2009 @06:50PM (#27115299)
    Of course it can. It's out there. We know that. We're not talking COMPLETE control. That's not possible unless you lock down your content in a safe vault. But if you're the best provider people will come to your place to get it. Giving you better control. We're getting traffic FROM the pirate bay on the content that we have released as torrents. Because more people are seeding from our tracker. In general, people don't bother to redistribute as long as we provide unencrypted high quality files.
  • Re:I for one... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Darkness404 ( 1287218 ) on Sunday March 08, 2009 @07:04PM (#27115417)
    Look, I'm sorry but the BBC is just plain broken. They use region locking, complain about having to use cross-platform standards (because we all know there are no more than 6,000 Linux users in the entire UK right?), and all the while the citizens of the UK seem to think it is fine and dandy for their government to be taking their tax dollars and making shows that aren't in the public domain.

    The BBC basically shows how NOT to run a state-run TV channel.
  • by Darkness404 ( 1287218 ) on Sunday March 08, 2009 @07:09PM (#27115449)

    As for the "Money" bit, you do realized this is a fully government funded organization don't you?

    Yes, but if I was a Norwegian citizen and they asked me to vote on something that would slightly raise taxes to pay for upgrades, new shows, etc, I might actually vote for it because the government in this case is actually using taxpayer money responsibly.

  • Re:I for one... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by nbannerman ( 974715 ) on Sunday March 08, 2009 @08:17PM (#27116073)
    Well to be fair, region locking makes sense.

    Why should I, as a UK TV licence payer, fund programs for other people to watch?

    Additionally, I believe that since the BBC co-producers shows with other broadcasters in other countries, the licensing agreements currently in place mean the BBC has to take steps to stop (for example) a co-Canadian produced drama appearing for free before it is shown in Canada.

    Oh, and the BBC is not a state-run tv channel. It is a public broadcaster, but aside from the BBC Trust (which is more advisory), Government input is limited. Indeed the BBC have a very long and strong history of taking the Government (be it Tory or Labour) to task.

    It should also be noted that there isn't a 'TV tax' in the UK. The TV licence is only payable if you actually own a TV capable of receiving BBC programming. Now whilst the licence system could use a bit of modernising, it isn't a blanket tax.
  • Re:I for one... (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 08, 2009 @10:35PM (#27117075)

    Well, except for things like Doctor who, which is at least partially funded by CBC, the Canadian Broadcaster, and is over a YEAR out of date when it hits our airwaves...

    How do you think I get my fix of the Doctor? Do I wait a year, and pretend to not know what's going on via Outpost Gallifrey or some other Fansite?

    Duh. My country, and therefore MY tax dollars paid for that show... and guess what, you still region lock us. Idiots. Your web site won't even play teasers and trailers. Morons.

    Sheesh. Of course fans will just bittorrent it.

    The sad thing, is the CBC actually DOES provide the shows on their website... but they are slow in getting their year old episodes released.

  • Re:Umm... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by aliquis ( 678370 ) on Sunday March 08, 2009 @11:50PM (#27117625)

    Would had been cool if they had choosen TPB instead of setting up their own tracker though, maybe they could had gotten a category of their own or something such.

    But it would be nice for the people behind TPB to say "well, see, at least NRK gets it .."

  • by xiando ( 770382 ) on Monday March 09, 2009 @03:50AM (#27118647) Homepage Journal
    Norsk Rikskringkasting (NRK) is financed through a "license" which they can by law charge everyone who owns a televison set or other equipment which is able to get TV broadcasts. c They have been trying to claim a whole range of ludicrous things in order to demand license fees from more people than those who are listed as TV owners in their database for years.

    NRK actually tried to claim that everyone who owns a telephone also has a television and asked for permission to demand that everyone registered with a telephone pays the TV license. They were, luckily, denied when they tried that one. Now they are trying to claim that everyone who owns a computer can view their content and should pay a television license.

    NRK setting up a BitTorrent tracker does look like a good thing - at first glance. But do not get fooled: This is all about getting a new Norwegian law which would say that everyone who owns computer technology must pay NRK a yearly fee. It is that simple. This is all about the money. That they use BitTorrent is in itself a good thing. Their motives are absolutely not.
  • Re:I for one... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by blackest_k ( 761565 ) on Monday March 09, 2009 @04:22AM (#27118745) Homepage Journal

    Actually if you were in Europe if you pointed a dish at 28.2 East you would have access to bbc1 to 4 cbbc and cbeebies also itv1-4 channel 4 e4 more4 film4 and channel 5 all are broadcast in the clear with no encryption. The bbc does limit it's output on the Internet but presumably it has to pay for the bandwidth used. so bbc says yes to give away for free, no to paying to let you watch for free.

  • Re:Umm... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Ihmhi ( 1206036 ) <i_have_mental_health_issues@yahoo.com> on Monday March 09, 2009 @01:17PM (#27123493)

    We American's don't salute the flag. We pledge allegiance to our flag and everything it represents - not just the nation itself, but its ideals.

    I refused to say the pledge in high school as I'm an Atheist and I object to the "Under God" bit. I stand out of respect, but I don't salute in any way nor do I say the pledge.

    My homeroom teacher was in the Air Force and she really didn't like me for that, especially since I said, "Thank you for your service to this wonderful country that allows me to express my dissent."

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