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Is a $72.5m Opening Weekend Enough For Star Trek? 820

brumgrunt writes "At first glance, JJ Abrams' Star Trek has won over audiences as well as critics as it stormed to a $72.5m US opening weekend. However, Den Of Geek sounds a note of caution. Can it hold an audience for a second week? How do its numbers stack up? And as Wolverine looks like its struggling to reach $200m off an $85m opening weekend, is Star Trek yet the huge hit blockbuster that some of the headlines are suggesting?"
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Is a $72.5m Opening Weekend Enough For Star Trek?

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  • first post! (Score:5, Informative)

    by GreenTech11 ( 1471589 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @09:30AM (#27905429)
    Star trek will get the loyal fans from the earlier movies, Wolverine had less of a fan base
  • What Critics? (Score:1, Informative)

    by fidget42 ( 538823 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @09:31AM (#27905433)
    Rotten tomatoes has it rated at 95%, which means that there are very few critics that don't like the movie. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_trek_11/ [rottentomatoes.com]
  • Re:Who cares? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Burkin ( 1534829 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @09:32AM (#27905449)
    Because the movie studio gets a bigger share of the ticket sales in the earlier weeks. As time goes on they get less of a cut as the theaters get more.
  • Re:What Critics? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Burkin ( 1534829 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @09:34AM (#27905491)

    Rotten tomatoes has it rated at 95%, which means that there are very few critics that don't like the movie.

    Which is precisely why the summary says "At first glance, JJ Abrams' Star Trek has won over audiences as well as critics".

  • The opening weekend of any 'blockbuster' movie is really just a barometer for how good the hype was, how good the trailer is, and how much pent up demand there was for the adaptation. This is true for X-Men, X-Files, Watchmen, Batman, and our beloved crew of the Enterprise. That second week, and the subsequent weeks, is very dependent on the reviews. These are the people who waited for someone else to go see it opening weekend, and then wait to hear what they said about the movie. Star Trek is getting great reviews, and not just from the newspaper shills-- audiences generally like the film. This is different than the (lack of) buzz about Wolverine, and the outright confusion about the Watchmen. It's more along the lines of Batman Begins: your older sister asked you "Really? Another Batman movie?" to which you've replied "oh yeah-- it's that good." Expect a strong 4 week run on Star Trek.
  • by commodore64_love ( 1445365 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @09:35AM (#27905529) Journal

    According to Entertainment Weekly, 70-75 million is how much the previous movies got in *total* income. So even if this new Trek ended right now, it still did as well as all the previous movies. That's nothing to be negative about.

  • by russotto ( 537200 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @09:40AM (#27905601) Journal

    23 year old's don't command starships in ANY reality. Reboot, my ass. Die StarTrek, die......

    Space Admiral Farragut would strongly disagree. (the real wet-navy Farragut was given command of a prize ship at age 12, and attained a command of his own at age 22)

  • by R_Kulio ( 1265846 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @09:42AM (#27905629)
    Yeah, but this one cost a whole lot more to make than any of the previous ones. http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/series/StarTrek.php [the-numbers.com]
  • Re:Worst Case (Score:3, Informative)

    by Culture20 ( 968837 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @09:55AM (#27905799)

    At least the kirk from the other movies always fixes the timeline.

    Are you suggesting The City on the Edge of Forever [wikipedia.org] will have a happy ending? I know that Balance of Terror [wikipedia.org] will be different. My only question is how George's crew knew they were Romulans and not just some crazy Vulcans...

  • Re:What Critics? (Score:3, Informative)

    by LurkerXXX ( 667952 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @09:55AM (#27905811)
    Let me help you out a little. You seem to be somewhat lacking in the understanding of the English language.

    From Websters...

    Critic:

    1. a person who judges, evaluates, *or* criticizes: a poor critic of men.
    2. a person who judges, evaluates, or analyzes literary or artistic works, dramatic or musical performances, or the like, esp. for a newspaper or magazine.

    Emphasis mine.

    A movie critic doesn't necessarily dislike a movie... They judge or comment on them. There are tons of critics of the new Star Trek film. Read any review in any newspaper/blog, and you are reading a movie critic's remarks.

  • by PMuse ( 320639 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @10:08AM (#27905985)

    Rotten Tomatoes [rottentomatoes.com]: Trek 95% v Wolvie 37%
    MetaCritic [metacritic.com]: Trek 84% v Wolvie 44%

    'Nuff said.

  • Re:first post! (Score:2, Informative)

    by bugeaterr ( 836984 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @10:13AM (#27906077)

    Wolverine had less of a fan base

    Especially among critics.
    Rottentomatoes average of Top Critics:
    Star Trek: 91%(about as good as it gets)
    Wolverine: 15% (about as not good as it gets)

    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_trek_11/?critic=creamcrop [rottentomatoes.com]

    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/wolverine/?critic=creamcrop [rottentomatoes.com]

  • Re:first post! (Score:3, Informative)

    by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @10:19AM (#27906181)
    Reviews and also word of mouth:

    Wolverine imdb [imdb.com]=6.9
    Star Trek imdb [imdb.com]=8.6

    Those unfamiliar with IMDB scores might think that is pretty close, but it isn't. Star Trek is nearing Dark Knight territory (8.9), whereas Wolverine is closer to the X-Files=6.8 (and I mean X-Files, not the first X-Men=7.4)

  • My review. (Score:3, Informative)

    by B5_geek ( 638928 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @10:26AM (#27906291)

    This was better then the last 3 movies combined.
    I liked the way the characters were introduced (minus Kirk).
    I liked the story line.
    I liked the character development.
    I loved the fanboy nods.

    I hated everything else. The lens-flare was so horrible (in my theatre) that there were entire scenes in the film that I could not see due to the film being completely white-washed. I was tempted to leave within the first 15 minutes due to the lens flare.

    The bridge: I have seen the future; and it is an Apple iMac inspired hell. The translucent glass was everywhere and it looked like ass.

    The engine room: the scale was completely wrong, and was jarring. I liked the idea of having a 'mechanical' engine room, this looked more like a Detroit Big-3 factory then a nuclear sub.

    In summary: The story was decent, the film was distracting. This is the last Trek for me.

  • by FTWinston ( 1332785 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @10:32AM (#27906397) Homepage
    Come on, other Star Trek films & series have 'screwed up' their own canon plenty of times. Please try to learn to live with this, or you will go mad: they're not perfect!

    Remember the outcry around Ron Moore's re-imagining of Battlestar? It was brilliant, yes, but it was different, and how dare he!!!

    Yes, this is different to the Trek we know. Accept it as such, and you can enjoy it. Refuse to accept this, and you're denying yourself a whole new franchise. Those that refused to accept the new Battlestar denied themselves a series that was considered by many to be one of the very best things on TV. Personally, I loved the new BSG and I thoroughly enjoyed this Trek film, despite many plot points that just annoyed me, not least Delta Vega looking to be about 500'000 km from Vulcan, and Nero's poorly thought-through punishment for Spock.
  • Re:first post! (Score:3, Informative)

    by ArsonSmith ( 13997 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @11:17AM (#27907305) Journal
  • Re:first post! (Score:2, Informative)

    by fmoc-86 ( 1279012 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @11:19AM (#27907353)
    Risking off-topic, Earl Grey tea is delicious.
  • Re:first post! (Score:4, Informative)

    by Wraithlyn ( 133796 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @11:56AM (#27908027)

    Definitely agree with your first two points. Thank heavens Spock's TINY LITTLE SHIP was there to save the universe by shooting the drill cable a couple times.

    3) Because black-hole-Vulcan has exactly the same gravitational attraction as regular-Vulcan; it's the same amount of mass. That part makes sense.

    4) I'd have to rewatch it, but I'm pretty sure they warped away from Earth (I remember a brief chase) before the final confrontation.

  • Re:first post! (Score:5, Informative)

    by Binestar ( 28861 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @12:00PM (#27908113) Homepage
    35MM film has more resolution than 1080P. http://filmschoolonline.com/sample_lessons/sample_lesson_HD_vs_35mm.htm [filmschoolonline.com] As long as you're working from the original 35MM film (and also assuming it's not degraded too much) you can easily move to HD and redo the special effects for a true HD original series.
  • Re:first post! (Score:4, Informative)

    by e4g4 ( 533831 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @12:01PM (#27908117)
    Hey now - the HD remasterings of TOS are excellent. The new special effects and backdrop enhancements put the remastering of Star Wars IV, V and VI to shame (they are actually faithful to the original); and it looks pretty damn good in HD.
  • Re:first post! (Score:3, Informative)

    by Ihmhi ( 1206036 ) <i_have_mental_health_issues@yahoo.com> on Monday May 11, 2009 @01:00PM (#27909131)

    It was a damn good addition to a series that's been in the shitter since 1996.

    No no, Deep Space Nine ended in 1999, not 1996.

  • Re:first post! (Score:3, Informative)

    by idobi ( 820896 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @01:20PM (#27909471) Homepage
    Except that TOS was shot on film, so your point is moot
  • Re:first post! (Score:5, Informative)

    by tcolberg ( 998885 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @01:25PM (#27909545)

    Nope. Star Trek of the 1960s was on film and edited on film, making it easy to convert to HD -- e.g. just redo the effects.

    Star Trek The Next Generation will be a little difficult because, after each episode was shot on film, it transferred to video for editing and effects. To do a remastering in HD, it will require redoing the editing and the effects -- possible, but will the cost be justified? I just hope that the costs get low enough that they eventually do DS9 in HD.

  • Re:first post! (Score:4, Informative)

    by JRR006 ( 830025 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @01:41PM (#27909813)

    Sulu offered nothing either and was basically "Harold" (from Harold and Kumar fame) on the bridge of the Enterprise... oh and he could fence. Was that an attempt to pay tribute to Picard or just an excuse to do a pointless and extremely cheesy sword fighting scene (I can't believe CmdrTaco thought this was the least cheesy Star Trek film!) ?

    I haven't seen the movie yet so I can't speak to this incarnation's characterization but in "The Naked Time" Sulu runs around with a fencing foil, if I recall correctly. It's probably a reference to that, not Picard, though it was probably also an excuse for a cheesy sword fight.

  • Re:first post! (Score:2, Informative)

    by CeasedCaring ( 1527717 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @01:54PM (#27910029)

    People learning a fictional language?!? WTF?!?

    Try telling that to folks who speak Esperanto [wikipedia.org]

    IIRC, there are now more Klingon speakers than Esperanto ones.

  • Re:first post! (Score:4, Informative)

    by Supurcell ( 834022 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @02:07PM (#27910229)
    Not only that, but every single episode of the original series' credits had a shot of Sulu with his shirt off, fencing down the corridor.
  • Re:first post! (Score:4, Informative)

    by k1773re7f ( 828030 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @02:27PM (#27910545)
    The scientific problem I had the most issue with was the "super-nova" that destroyed Romulus, enveloping it. Was it in the same solar system? If so, then Spock would destroy the Nova by turning the Romulan Sun into a black hole!? Or, was it in a different system? If so, then the Nova was so huge that the mass of the star could expand over distances of light years and envelop a planet in a different star system!? It made no sense at all. This explanation will only serve to complicate the matter. But it is scientifically accurate. When a star goes supernova, it streams two gamma ray bursts in opposite directions emminating from the magnetic poles.

    These rays are so energetic that any thing with a line of site within 1000 light years is toast.

    We are 8000 light years from a star [discovermagazine.com] that has probably already gone supernova. The light just now arriving to earth from it shows that it is on the brink of going supernova at anytime.

    If it has gone supernova and one of the gamma ray streams is aimed at us,(The poles don't seemed to be aligned with us right now. But dying stars aren't exactly stable things.) then lights out for life on the planet. The planet may survive. But life most definitely won't.

    The problem is, that collapsing the star into a black hole will with some kind of exotic matter not prevent the gamma ray burst. They are caused by the acceleration of matter by the gravitational collapse of the star.

  • by UnknowingFool ( 672806 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @03:36PM (#27911645)

    Nepotism, superiority complexes of "upper classes", their raging sense of entitlement and general bigoted stupidity do explain a lot. But then again they did inherit their ideals from the feudal British, who were, amazingly, even more moronic.

    Most of the time officers were from upper class families because they could read which was vital for planning, following orders, issuing orders, etc. That's not to say that good officers could not be found amongst lower classes if they demonstrated skill or bravery.

    None of which goes to "sanity". History is full of examples of utter, sheer, imbecilic, barking at the moon, rabid lunacy. 12 year old "officers" in charge of ships is one of them.

    What you called "imbecilic, barking at the moon, rabid lunacy" was often times neccessary and practical.. You've captured a sloop while at sea. You need someone to sail it to the nearest friendly port. Most of your capable officers are either (1) sailing all your other captured vessels or (2) waiting at port after capturing other vessels as it may take weeks or months to get to that port. Your only available officer is a 12 year old. By the way, this is the 1800s most sailors were likely illiterate. So mostly likely you are going to send over the 12 year old who can navigate and read a map. Also if you are sending over a 12 year old, most likely you are not sending him to port alone. If you are down to that level of reserves, you will most likely be escorting the vessel back to port, but you need someone in charge that handle the daily tasks of sailing a vessel. While we can't know what the sailor thought, we do know that they did not mutiny when placed under the command of a 12 year old so they must have not thought the idea as too "insane".

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