Original Cast On Board For Ghostbusters 3 444
bowman9991 writes "Dan Aykroyd reveals that all the original cast have now signed on for Ghostbusters 3, including Sigourney Weaver, Bill Murray, Harold Ramis and Ernie Hudson. Apparently Bill Murray, who holds a one-fifth controlling interest, was very reluctant at first, not even willing to read a third draft of Aykroyd's script. Aykroyd would like to see Ivan Reitman or Harold Ramis direct, wants to introduce a 'new generation' of Ghostbusters, and believes they could be filming the new Ghostbuster movie by winter."
Can we (Score:5, Insightful)
Seeing a bunch of guys in their 60s doing action/adventure stuff won't cut it for me, I don't think. It's just a mis-match of the phases of human life and the plot of the story. Running around doing crazy shit is a young person's thing; a story where the cast is middle-aged should have the plot that involves the drama that a middle aged person gets involved in -- kids, grandkids, getting old, missed opportunities, rectifying relationships, taking on responsiblities, coming to terms with your life, etc.
I think the baby boomers represented the great consumerist generation, and the marketers are trying to squeeze the last dollars out of this demographic.
Re:Can we (Score:5, Insightful)
You really considered the original ghostbusters movies action adventure flicks?
Atl east they finally made up their minds. (Score:3, Insightful)
At least they finally made up their minds.
I remember when they first decided to make a new one, then scrapped the movie in favor of a video game... some of us are still haunted by the original ghostbusters games.
Re:Can we (Score:5, Insightful)
Seeing a bunch of guys in their 60s doing action/adventure stuff won't cut it for me, I don't think.
Ghostbusters doesn't really have action sequences though in the same way that Indiana Jones did. The biggest action sequence was probably them running ut of the library.
Re:Can we (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Gee (Score:5, Insightful)
I can't wait to see who they're going to cast as the annoying kid ghostbuster, complete with mini-backpack.
I hear Jessica Biel is going to play the kick-ass female ghostbuster who doesn't take crap from nobody - but is she falling for the hunky new ghostbuster (Shia LaBeouf)?
Re:Can we (Score:5, Insightful)
Slime me... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Gee (Score:5, Insightful)
I hear Jessica Biel is going to play the kick-ass female ghostbuster who doesn't take crap from nobody - but is she falling for the hunky new ghostbuster (Shia LaBeouf)?
Make it R-rated with Lindsay Lohan falling for the kick-ass female ghostbuster and I'll go see it! Or at least download it from the pirate-bay!
Re:Can we (Score:5, Insightful)
Speak for yourself, Sonny (Score:5, Insightful)
Iron Man was great because it gave 40-somethings an action hero *THEY* can relate to.
Not your typical, whiny, prissy-haired Generation-Y superhero who between fighting bad guys (like "Eco Man" and "The Recycler") shops and uses his iPhone to update his Twitter feed: "kckd butt yo lol lawl in4a!"
If GhostBusters 3 gives 60-somethings an action hero they can relate to (Because Indy 4 sure as hell didn't), good for them!
Re:Points for whoever gets it... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Can we (Score:5, Insightful)
If anyone cares to notice, we're all recalling the original Ghostbusters which was great. That's because the Ghostbusters II (which also had the original cast) SUCKED big time!
Unfortunately, I think this may be a case of, "Hey none of us are getting gigs, let's do a remake!"
Sometimes you can't go back. {sigh} But I hope I'm wrong.
Re:Can we (Score:5, Insightful)
The end of the movie was just them walking around, making jokes, holding and aiming props. When I think of Indiana Jones I think of outrunning a massive boulder, fighting Nazies on tanks, etc. Ghostbusters was nothing like that. It was a drama.
Re:Can we (Score:2, Insightful)
To be fair, I think the reason the second movie sucked is that Ghostbusters was at the hight of its popularity at the time. There was a cartoon currently being produced. And the American animation industry STILL hasn't quite gotten the notion that animation can be an adult medium and tell adult stories with adult themes. The Ghostbusters cartoon was quite obnoxiously kiddiefied. And instead of trying to recapture the spirit of the original movie; Ghostbusters tried to emulate the kiddiefied cartoon, with the now infamous results.
If that pack of SNL-at-its-prime comedians are allowed to make a proper SNL-inspired movie, like they did the first time; I suspect it'll be much better than the dumbed-down and sanitized "for the children's sake" sequel.
cya,
john
I'm putting on my psychic hat (Score:4, Insightful)
It's gonna stink on ice. It's going to feel like Star Trek and Indy IV, actors we love and respect acting like paunchy, 45 yr old high school football stars trying to hit on hot young thangs at the bar. Jesus, you were good twenty years ago but it's over now, show some fucking dignity and let it rest. But no, they won't. Even if I don't see the movie I'll be traumatized just from the sheer weight of hype out there.
You know what the sad thing is? Ghostbusters 2 was an awful movie but, honestly, the first one wasn't very good either. The premise is still great, that holds up all these years later, but the damn thing was just so underwritten. As a first draft it's fine but there needed to be more punch in the dialog, more oomph per minute. I saw it about six months back after not having seen it since it first came out, my strongest memories from the cartoon. (Collect Call of Cthulhu? You guys rawked). While I missed out on all the sexual subtext as a kid (and didn't realize Akroyd was getting a spectral blowjob), I also didn't realize just how creepy Murray came across. He's the skeezy sexual harassment guy.
Ah, well. It's not like common sense or good taste has ever turned Hollywood off from a project.
Pass what? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Does hollywood have any originality left? (Score:5, Insightful)
C'mon. At least of the 6 major Batman movies, 4 of them were decent or good (I'm sorry, but Batman & Robin and Batman Forever SUCKED!). Did you even SEE The Dark Knight? Hardly slapping on a fresh coat of paint and slapping it up there. And nevermind that Batman Begins WAS basically a "reboot" for the franchise.
And it's not necessarily originality that's lacking in Hollywood. It's the fact that original, high profile, big budget pictures tend to elicit quite a following if they're at least decent, and this causes sequels to be "big" as well simply because people who liked the first (or second, or tenth) will come see the next simply out of curiousity. Repeat ad nauseum.
Re:Ah, Ghostbusters... (Score:5, Insightful)
"If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe in anything you say."
Re:Can we (Score:5, Insightful)
Running around doing crazy shit is a young person's thing; a story where the cast is middle-aged should have the plot that involves the drama that a middle aged person gets involved in -- kids, grandkids, getting old, missed opportunities, rectifying relationships, taking on responsibilities, coming to terms with your life, etc.
Wow you need to know some different old people. In his 60's my Dad was travelling the world. Malaysia, Australia, The Alps, India... at his funeral (in his 70's) my sister and I found out he had three girlfriends at the time he died (no, that wasn't the cause :). At one point one of them took me aside and told me how while taking a break during sex she had ridden him naked around the living room and patio...
Re:Can we (Score:5, Insightful)
The reason being that Arnold is a tad occupied with being the Governor of California at the moment,...
Re:Last (Score:5, Insightful)
Excellent reasoning...
Just like George Lucas had "reasonable" success. He'd certainly earned enough money that he didn't need to do the Star Wars prequels. So the fact that he did them is part of the reason they were so...hang on...something is wrong with this train of thought
Re:Can we (Score:5, Insightful)
Harold Ramis is the most successful of all, and I can only imagine the reason he would particpate is out of charity to Dan Akroyd.
Seth
Re:Does hollywood have any originality left? (Score:4, Insightful)
I hate to break this to you - but Hollywood has been recycling themes and plots since about the time the fourth movie came out of Hollywood. Hell, even Shakespeare recycled plots and themes.
Re:Does hollywood have any originality left? (Score:3, Insightful)
Not much. "Police Academy 8" is back in development, after being shelved in 2003 and 2006. I think that's the highest sequel number with the same title.
Hollywood is down to mining the more obscure comic books and toys. The Silver Surfer has been done. GI Joe comes out this summer. There's another Transformers movie. Yawn.
Even "Terminator Salvation" is disappointing.
"Angels and Demons" isn't bad, except that it turns into one of those stupid "beat the clock" movies. (Previous "beat the clock" movie: "12 Rounds". Next up, "The Taking of Pelham 123". Yes, idea shortage.)
We need another Spielberg. There isn't one in sight.
Re:I'm putting on my psychic hat (Score:5, Insightful)
actors we love and respect acting like paunchy, 45 yr old high school football stars trying to hit on hot young thangs at the bar
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the role Bill Murray plays best?
Re:Can we (Score:1, Insightful)
Perhaps if Arnold was away from the job more, California would be in less dire straits.
They left Schwarzenegger out of Terminator 4 for a reason.
The reason being that Arnold is a tad occupied with being the Governor of California at the moment,...
Re:Gee (Score:3, Insightful)
Yes. Same-sex romance is intrinsically an adult subject.
Yes, having a stick up your ass is intrinsically an adult subject.
And female same-sex romance is a spectacle for straight men to gawk at.
And stick-up-the-ass romance is a spectacle for everyone to gawk at.
Particularly, bisexual women are actually straight but want attention from men. Remember, female sexuality has no value other than as a spectacle for men.
Particularly, anonymous cowards with a stick up their ass are actually straight but want attention from slashdot readers.
Remember, a stick up yo' ass has no value other than as a spectacle for everybody else.
Also, all children are born straight. Each exposure to the concept of same-sex romance increases the likelihood that they'll turn gay.
Also, all children are born straight. Each exposure to the concept of a stick up their ass increases the likelihood they'll turn gay.
The above is categorically not a self-centred, privileged world view that demeans everybody else in order to make me look cool for a couple of seconds in front of my privileged friends.
Ditto!
It is all objective fact.
It is all self-indulgent righteousness.
Mod parent fucking Neanderthal.
Mod parent sore-ass loser.
Re:Can we (Score:5, Insightful)
That last sentence, was just not something I would like to hear at a funeral.
I can understand why you feel you would not want to hear that. The lady (and she was) certainly knew my sister wouldn't be able to handle it but somehow figured out that I would enjoy hearing it. Perhaps it was that I had flown in from several thousand miles away and she knew we would almost certainly never meet again. Perhaps it was because she was in shock - too long a story to explain why but she only found out about his death and funeral the day before the service - and grieving and it helped her cope with that grief to be able to share it.
I think she knew it would help me. My father had grown up in the Great Depression (and anybody who thinks the current situation is anywhere near as bad as that is deluded). His father died before he was 10. He fought on the ground in WWII and saw things he would never discuss with me or anyone else. In action his back was injured and he suffered chronic pain and reduced mobility for the next 30 years. His fighter pilot brother crashed and burned somewhere over Europe during WWII. As a result his mother killed herself. He was in a loveless and painful marriage to my mother and stayed in it until my sister and I were both out of the home. He supported his family by working in a job he literally came to hate long before he could leave it when my sister and I were gone. Mom had worked once my sister and I were in school, and was fully capable of supporting herself, but when he left her he gave up everything - house, furniture, car etc. - and paid Mom support in order to make sure Mom didn't go without - all without a court or lawyer forcing him. Medicine had advanced and he got his back fixed and at age 55 started over with nothing.
A lot of what that means you don't get until you are older and can really start to understand. One of my favorite sayings goes something like "When I was a teenager I was always embarrassed at how completely ignorant and stupid my father was. In my late twenties I was shocked to see how much smarter he had become." Despite all that he lived through Dad was a gentle and scrupulously honest man who thought about right and wrong and tried to live his life by that. Hundreds of people came to his funeral including people he had worked with and mentored 30 years before.
I was really glad to see my Dad able to find some happiness and joy in the latter part of his life. If anyone deserved it he sure did and I had been telling his girlfriend this because she had been worried how the family might react to finding out about her. I think part of why she told me what she did was to let me know what he had found with her. And what's the big deal? They'd had sex. They were naked. He got on his hands and knees to pick something up and spur of the moment she playfully got on his back. They played and they had fun... hearing about that made me happy.
I understand your desire not to hear that and it is certainly your right and nothing wrong with that at all. So none of this is aimed at you but some of the other reactions involving knives and "brain bleach" betray a serious problem - with age, with sex, with parents... I don't know which - maybe all. But the people saying stuff like that really ought to examine why they have such reactions. It's said nobody likes to think of their parents or teachers as having sex. Why? They are, after all, completely human. Even if they are gasp old.
Many people here think nothing of saying things like "put it in retard mode for the senior citizens" and other similar comments. The bigotry aimed at age is no more acceptable than if it was aimed at race. If anything it is worse because those old people have lived and experienced far more than the bigots and they deserve respect. They used to get it in our society and it's ugly that that has, for some reason, changed.