Indian CEO Says Most US Tech Grads "Unemployable" 1144
theodp writes "When questioned about his firm's US hiring, Information Week reports that Vineet Nayar, the CEO of the Indian outsourcing giant HCL Technologies, showed he can stereotype with the best of them, telling an audience in NYC that most American tech grads are 'unemployable.' Explaining that Americans are far less willing than students from developing economies like India, China, and Brazil to master the 'boring' details of tech process and methodology, the HCL chief added that most Americans are just too expensive to train. HCL, which was reportedly awarded a secretive $170 million outsourcing contract by Microsoft last April, gets a personal thumbs-up from Steve Ballmer for 'walking the extra mile.' Ballmer was busy last week pitching more H-1B visas as the cure for America's job ills at The National Summit."
Re:If Americans are unemployable.... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:outsourcing and unemployment (Score:5, Informative)
let us not forget that microsoft let go about 5000 workers to reduce costs, so your analogy then becomes similar to
You have 40 employed people and ten unemployed.. the employer then fires 30 of those and replaces them with foreign imports that are cheaper, now of the sample group instead of having 20% unemployed you have 50%
you then have the same number of jobs, but with more people to share them around between.
Re:If Americans are unemployable.... (Score:4, Informative)
The money is coming from somewhere...
Don't you remember the economic meltdown? Turns out the money was, and still is, coming from nowhere.
Re:Where's India's domestic economy? (Score:1, Informative)
Logic uses true and false. Binary is a number system.
... which uses the logical categories True and False ...
... and sometimes notates them using the symbols '0' and '1', which coincidentally are also the symbols conventionally used to represent the numbers zero and one.
Re:outsourcing and unemployment (Score:5, Informative)
Try going to your Help page, and under "Classic Index", check the box that says "Use Classic Index". There are other boxes there too e.g. "Simple Design".
Re:My observations. (Score:3, Informative)
You'll suddenly find yourself working for minimum wage. That's what certain executive-types are trying to do to technology.
This process isnt some big evil conspiracy by the evil rich white men.
It's a fundamental phenomenon in (more or less) free market economies.
If a field makes more than the others, and anyone can enter, then people will continue to enter and drive down the price until there is no more inherent benefit to that field compared to others.
It doesnt require black-clad robber barons oppressing the weak for this to happen, it'll happen all by itself.
Re:outsourcing and unemployment (Score:1, Informative)
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Re:outsourcing and unemployment (Score:1, Informative)
That has been done years ago at most decent institutions.
"Computer Science" programs are for those who want to focus more on the theory of computing, discrete methematics, and research.
"Software Engineering" programs are for those who want to study the various methods and processes involved with the design and construction of software systems.
I'm surprised you weren't aware of this, given your apparent role in hiring software developers. It's no wonder you have such a hard time finding people qualified for your needs. You have absolutely no idea about who you should be looking for.
Re:outsourcing and unemployment (Score:2, Informative)
McDonald's serves something that vaguely resembles hamburger meat. Even if they throw in a couple too many horses in their meat, the Hindus still won't eat it. Not sure if the rest of us should, either,...
There. Fixed it for you. =)
Re:I'll guess I'll complain on Slashdot again (Score:1, Informative)
You mean sell the house at the drop of a hat in a down market, take the loss, move across country with the wife & kids, lose unemployment, all for a job that, as last hire I'll most likely be the first fired when the economic downturn continues another quarter?
I take it gullibility is a job requirement? Or just youth and inexperience?
Re:outsourcing and unemployment (Score:2, Informative)
I am aiming to be modded funny.
Re:outsourcing and unemployment (Score:3, Informative)
Re:outsourcing and unemployment (Score:3, Informative)
Christ, 20 responses and no answers:
If you log in, you can change your discussion viewing preferences to disable "Interactive Discussions aka D2". This will return you to classic /. style discussions, which were perfect.
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I think CmdrTaco once suggested setting it so that you have a lower comment threshold that is increased the moment you've got over 50 comments on your screen, or something, but I don't know how to set that up. Comment limit? Index spill? I forget. I prefer to wait until the discussion has identified valuable content.