| A Practical Guide to Ubuntu Linux 2nd ed. | |
| author | Mark G. Sobell |
| pages | 1244 |
| publisher | Prentice Hall |
| rating | 9/10 |
| reviewer | JR Peck |
| ISBN | 978-0-13-700388-4 |
| summary | an improvement on what was already a solid resource |
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A Practical Guide to Ubuntu Linux (Score:1, Redundant)
Mandatory: Let me Google that for you [lmgtfy.com]...
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In all honestly, a lot can be learned from ubuntu by just searching through search engines.
I'd suggest dogpile as a practical engine if not google itself.
Both ways, every problem I've ever had from being a really basic ubuntu noob to being slightly more experienced (I'm far from a pro) all started with the ubuntu forums [ubuntuforums.org].
Re:A Practical Guide to Ubuntu Linux (Score:4, Informative)
There can be. The problem with search is knowing where to start. If you're really a beginner, that can be the "hard part".
I have the first edition of this book. I got a lot out of it. There's a LOT of information. However, I found a lot of times some rather important information, like a specific command, was just mentioned in passing, instead of being called out clearly with examples. I would have liked to have seen more with that. Otherwise, it was a good book.
Not to mention, I didn't have a web enabled computer near by to use when I was setting up Ubuntu, making the whole "google it" thing rather hard to do.
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Re:A Practical Guide to Ubuntu Linux (Score:4, Insightful)
Have you never heard of a forum with a search option?
I found lots of old and new stuff as I worked my way through issues with gaming on linux and learned how to use apt, learned how to compile source, make/make config/make install, learned about sudo, synaptic, all of that.
That stuff is what, 7+ years old? However, there are still both a: new people asking as it is the first time they have encountered it and b: old posts that are easily found via search on said same obscure questions.
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Ubuntu needs an icon (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Ubuntu needs an icon (Score:4, Funny)
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Dunno, I saw some "fan art" of the Ubuntu logo once. 3 nice female rear ends of varying shades, stuck up in the air forming the basic shape of the logo ... quite "inspriational" if you know what I mean...
Re:Ubuntu needs an icon (Score:4, Funny)
You know allude to it, but don't post a link? Here, let me fix that for you. NSFW, of course.
http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/2005/3ubuntu.jpg [gnome.org]
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haha, ubuttu
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No, that's beyond being a dumbass. What part of "3 nice female rear ends of varying shades, stuck up in the air" did you not understand??
Get with the program!
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I recommend the ass one
http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/images/3ubuntu.jpg [gnome.org]
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A bicycle with square wheels sums it up nicely. Maybe throw a fish in there trying to ride it, too.
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Seriously, /., it's about time they get their own icon.
It's time to retire the Borg and stained glass Window. They set the tone. They reinforce stereotypes that have not served the geek well.
1244 pages (Score:3, Interesting)
I sympathize with the author on the decision on what to include in the book... no doubt he cut a fair number of things but still ended up with a prodigious book. Reminds me of the "Java in a Nutshell" books - the last one I bought was almost square.
These days I'm finding more value in books like Rich Bowen's The Definitive Guide to Apache mod_rewrite [amazon.com]. These smaller more focused books go digging deep into parts of various utilities that don't Google answers as easily. I can find 100 tutorials on installing Apache, but not so many on using RewriteMap. And they seem to have a longer shelf life; that mod_rewrite book is a couple years old but still very relevant and useful.
Re:1244 pages (Score:4, Informative)
I tend to appreciate the books that say more in less space. The best Linux resource I've found in the last times is "Ubuntu Linux Toolbox: 1000+ Commands for Ubuntu and Debian Power Users" http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Linux-Toolbox-Commands-Debian/dp/0470082933/ref=cm_cr-mr-title [amazon.com] : Just 360 pages, command line oriented, almost nothing of those GUI admin tools that get reinvented every 6 months.
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Thanks for the link, desk copy ordered and it may be useful in my course...
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8.1? (Score:2)
That should be Ubuntu 8.10, as in 2008-10, the release month.
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it's true. OP clearly does not know about ubuntu naming conventions :P
ubuntu versions are the number of years since 2000 and the number of the current month.
6.06 = June 2006
7.04 = April 2007
8.10 = OCTOBER 2008
you do not reduce because it isn't a real decimal value.
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Thanks for the info. My issue is probably due to the fact that I'm a long time Fedora user - integers seem sufficient for us.
Updates? Don't need no stinkin Updates! (Score:2)
One thing I love about Linux is the rapid development and frequent updates that allow me to run the latest versions of all my favorite software packages.
Though not a Linux geek, I see the same thing on a smaller scale when Firefox keeps offering to update my plugins. I should probably turn this feature off, because every once in a while I get an update that breaks the whole browser.
Not a big fan of automatic updates. Bad idea to upgrade something without analyzing the benefits and risks.
Incidentally, my name appears in the "Thanks" section of this book. Which doesn't mean I actually contributed anything to it. Many years ago (don't recall how long, but the
Second edition? (Score:2)
I think Ubuntu got past its second edition long ago... aren't they up to 9.04?
The main Disadvantage of Linux (Score:2, Interesting)
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The main Disadvantage of Linux is the rapid development and frequent updates.
I haven't used Linux in years but I think that's an advantage not a disadvantage. Just because an update is available that doesn't mean it has to be installed. When I used Windows I didn't install all the updates, and I don't install all of them on my Mac now. It's nice they're available but I check to see if I need each one before installing them.
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So does that mean that is also a disadvantage that Microsoft provides updates to Windows just about every Thursday? And if they didn't, would you then be accusing them of being lax in security for not releasing frequent security updates?
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Totally, I HATE how those open source people update quickly and fix bugs so fast. What is this a race? Slow the fuck down. Some of us have high blood pressure!
Another thing about linux: It boots up too damn fast. When I was using windows, it took 7 minutes before I got to the desktop, and I used that time to make coffee. Now that linux loads so fast, I don't have time to. Thanks for ruining my morning, linux.
And I HATE how all these linux programs can be downloaded at no cost. Before linux, I used to make
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really? (Score:2, Informative)
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If you have the
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Linux is bad because it contains all development tools which ordinary users don't need
I'd suggest that there's plenty of ordinary (as in "non administrators and non developers") users who use LaTeX and would marvel at discovering how easy it is to craft a simple makefile to automate building PDFs, for example, or how "make install" can be used to upload their hobby website to a webserver.
Come to think of it, that would be great subject for Ask Slashdot.
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I don't remember who said this, i can't take credit for this quote, but it seems relevant
"XML is like violence, if it isn't working, you just need more of it"
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I'd suggest that there's plenty of ordinary (as in "non administrators and non developers") users who use LaTeX and would marvel at discovering how easy it is to craft a simple makefile to automate building PDFs, for example, or how "make install" can be used to upload their hobby website to a webserver.
Heh. Writing a Makefile for latex->pdf is anything but easy. I rather think it is impossible to do correctly in pure Makefiles, though I suppose it could be done with some support scripts.
Re:My experience with Ubunto (Score:4, Insightful)
If I recall correctly, the reason Ubuntu doesn't come with a compiler by default was because Mark Shuttleworth thought that the average computer user shouldn't have to deal with compiling a program.
By having a large base of potential users without the know-how or capability to compile a program from source, people developing programs for Linux-based systems would be encouraged to release binaries.
While I'm sure the more experienced of you may cringe at this, Ubuntu is designed to be a Linux distribution approachable for newbs from the outset. If you disagree with this, you can very easily do "apt-get install gcc", or simply try another distro.
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we do.
We get news about how windows is killing its self off
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/06/16/1756229/Windows-7-Licensing-a-Disaster-For-XP-Shops?art_pos=12 [slashdot.org]
but trying to make its products look better
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/06/19/033241/Microsoft-Launches-New-Get-the-Facts-Campaign?art_pos=6 [slashdot.org]
and how the mac guy is dying
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/09/06/24/0251213/Hospital-Confirms-Steve-Jobss-Liver-Transplant?art_pos=1 [slashdot.org]
but he still is obsessed with keeping mac locked up
http://apple.slashdot. [slashdot.org]
!can't (Score:2)
Ubuntu really is an ancient African word for "Can't install Debian".
I beg to differ. I'm fully capable of installing Debian, I'm just too lazy.
Coincidentally (Score:3, Funny)
"Debian" is an ancient African word for "can't compile Slackware."
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And of course, Slackware means "can't make own distribution".
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Linux is the Kernel and only the Kernel.
This pretty much sums up why "Linux" gets a bare 1% of the client desktop. OSX and Windows are clearly defined products that are usable out of the box.