Proposed UK File-Sharing Laws May Be Illegal, ISPs Upset 198
mindbrane writes "Once in a while, a sidebar will throw a lot of light on a difficult problem. The BBC has a short piece on British ISPs' anger over proposed new laws governing file sharing in the UK. The new laws would include cutting repeat offenders off from the Internet. Early response suggests such tactics would fail: 'UK ISP Talk Talk said the recommendations were likely to "breach fundamental rights" and would not work. ... Virgin said that "persuasion not coercion" was key in the fight to crack down on the estimated six million file-sharers in the UK. ... Talk Talk's director of regulation Andrew Heaney told the BBC News the ISP was as keen as anyone to clamp down on illegal file-sharers. ... "This is best done by making sure there are legal alternatives and educating people, writing letters to alleged file-sharers and, if necessary, taking them to court."' The article also mentions a statement issued by the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills which 'proposes that internet service providers are obliged to take action against repeat infringers and suggests that the cost of tracking down persistent pirates be shared 50:50 between ISPs and rights holders.' Unsurprisingly, said rights holders are in favor of the idea."
Sith Mandelson (Score:5, Informative)
It's Sith Mandelson that's trying to introduce this. Strangely it was reported in some newspapers that he was caught having a meeting last week with some Record companies. Wonder if they bought him a iPod or something?
Sith Lord Mandelson (Score:5, Informative)
This evil man, who somehow reappears in UK politics despite having been thrown out twice for being scum, has now become a Lord (!!!) and basically cares only for himself and his rich friends. He recently had chats with media companies, and suddenly he is espousing this hard line response. Coincidence ... hmm ...
I don't think that many people will be sad to see Labour lose in the next election. We might not be too happy with who will come in though.
Anyway, if 1 in 10 people is doing the same illegal thing, then what needs assessing? Surely the law itself!
Re:Why are the UK government getting into this? (Score:3, Informative)
Britain on the edge (Score:4, Informative)
Too bad the Labour Party has been taken over by a bunch of neo-conservative autocrats. The people of the UK now really have no choice except that between far right and even further right. Personal rights and due process are becoming a thing of the past, surveillance cameras proliferate like rats on Viagra, and the state is pushing its way into every area of one's private life...all in the name of security.
I'm entirely unsurprised that this latest assault on individual freedom and dignity is gaining currency with the UK government. Who cares whether the person whose connection is cut was actually responsible for the alleged piracy? Who cares whether they were even breaking the law? And how much more efficient it will be when the notoriously greedy and dishonest entertainment industry can inflict its will on average people without even having to prove its case in court!
All the fascists we fought during WWII would be laughing their asses off, because the current pack of neocon thugs are bringing about everything they wanted with the stroke of a pen. This latest offense against due process and the rule of law is just the cherry on an excrement sundae.
Re:Conflict of laws VS "Primacy of Parlement" (Score:3, Informative)
We don't have a written Constitution like the US, which can be amended as the government wants if it can get a supermajority in Congress and supermajority of the States
Fixed that for you.
Re:Why are the UK government getting into this? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Why are the UK government getting into this? (Score:3, Informative)
This is entirely a problem for the music and movie industry. Why are the government acting as their bitches against the will an freedom of the people who elected them?
The geek is convinced that he speaks for everyone.
The James Bond and Harry Potter films have earned ten billion dollars, unadjusted for inflation. The Lord of the Rings trilogy, three billion.
You could quite plausibly double or quadruple these numbers when you total up the return on book sales, home video and other merchandising.
The numbers are not without meaning to the finance minister.
Their value of these films as British cultural exports is incalculable.
You won't find a government anywhere that isn't trying to find a counterweight to the American media culture.
The media industry is skilled labor, labor intensive, high-tech and green. That is a winning combination for any politician.