Opera 10.0 Released 325
neonsignal writes "Opera 10 has been released. It now supports rich text email, the 'turbo' Opera proxy server feature, some HTML 5 support, XML 'pretty printing,' extra skinning features, and a 100/100 score in the Acid3 test. There has been no official announcement as yet."
no announcement? (Score:3, Informative)
Snappiest beast out there (Score:1, Informative)
Re:no announcement? (Score:2, Informative)
Announced on Twitter (Score:2, Informative)
Opera 10 final was announced on twitter over 6 hours ago. http://twitter.com/opera [twitter.com]
Re:no announcement? (Score:3, Informative)
Opera 10 browser is here [cnet.com]
Re:Snappiest beast out there (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Snappiest beast out there (Score:5, Informative)
Usually the versions used lags a little behind the desktop version, as a desktop version can allow to use more CPU and memory. No idea if 10.0 is in any mobile versions yet (perhaps Opera Mini is). When I worked there, the Opera 9 code base was starting to get into a lot of mobile projects.
Re:rendering Slashdot (Score:4, Informative)
Re:no announcement? (Score:2, Informative)
They also made a cool launch trailer [youtube.com]. Now how cool is that Opera Mini Cooper ;) It's quick but I guess the guys had lots of fun making it.
Re:That is impressive (Score:2, Informative)
I don't like it much, but I use it on a daily basis, because it is so light on system resources. (Firefox tends to bring this near obsolete POS win2000 system I have to use at work to it's knees, and IE6 well... let's not go there.)
Re:Snappiest beast out there (Score:4, Informative)
You can still reuse things like rendering engine and most of the system. Remember that Opera is also available for Mac OS and Linux and they obviously aren't using Win32 API there.
That is why he said code base, and that it lags behind because you obviously have to port some things.
Re:no announcement? (Score:5, Informative)
Press release [opera.com]
Maybe it wasn't online at the time of submission, but now it is.
Re:It's not a score! (Score:5, Informative)
No, it *is* the number of tests successfully passed. A 100/100 however does *not* indicate a pass, browsers need to pass all the tests at over 30fps to pass the whole test.
Opera 10 trailer (Score:4, Informative)
Re:It still fails at my simple CSS test. (Score:3, Informative)
I'd love to use Opera more, but every version (including 10) seems to suffer from rendering issues that are often readily apparent on major websites that don't seem to affect any other browser. I don't know whether its the browser or the website, but either way they dissuade me from continued use of Opera. Checkout the weekend view http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/USIL0225?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared [weather.com] for example.
Re:Couple of questions (Score:5, Informative)
1) You can change that behaviour in preferences.
Preferences -> Advanced -> Tabs
When closing a tab
- Activate the last active tab
- Activate the next tab
- Activate first tab opened from current tab
Personally I really prefer to go back to last active tab - it speeds up things a lot, atleast for me.
2) You could try emptying cache on exit always
Preferences -> Advanced -> History -> Empty on exit
On same page is always Check if document is updated on server, where I have "Always" and I think they do update when I start Opera.
Re:plugins? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:That is impressive (Score:5, Informative)
But does it run on Linux?
It runs on these OSs:
You can also see specialized versions for your distro of choice on their site [opera.com]
Re:That is impressive (Score:5, Informative)
Actually the only thing Opera still kind of needs is as good ad blocker as adblock. While it does have its feature for blocking content, it doesn't have lists and it doesn't always work as good. I know you could find lists for it and put them in the config files, but it's not as comfortable and still doesn't work as good.
Thats why I've always used Ad Muncher [admuncher.com] tho, it does the ad blocking perfectly (and not just in Opera, but all browsers). But Opera should really fine tune their ad blocking features. Otherwise there's no really features I can come up thats missing in Opera.
Re:That is impressive (Score:5, Informative)
Some ad servers are deliberately made incompatible with Firefox with Adblock installed, sometimes resulting in javascript alerts, sometimes the page never stops loading because it seems to be trying reloading the banner ad until it succeeds (or perhaps doing some tricky onload callback, I'm not sure). Opera's ad blocker is mostly immune to these tricks, and blocking lists can be easily downloaded from third-party sites. I think what Opera needs more is Flashblock, because pages that suddenly make sounds or start downloading HD videos without asking are disgusting.
Opera *can* block ads, no plugin necessary. (Score:2, Informative)
Opera has had the ability to block ads and other content for as long as I can remember, long before Firefox itself even existed. All that is required is for one to install a simple .ini file [fanboy.co.nz] into Opera's user profile directory. The file must be updated manually, but it is simple enough to write a script to automatically download the new file every so often. It may not be as powerful or user-friendly as AdBlock Plus, but it works, and works well.
Re:.debs? (Score:1, Informative)
http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ [goodbye-microsoft.com]
Re:That is impressive (Score:2, Informative)
"It" being some version of Opera.
To put the list into perspective a bit, lets take a look at the versions of Opera that run on some of these systems:
QNX: Opera 6.01b (which is a beta release). The last stable version for QNX is Opera 5.2.1.
OS/2: Opera 5.12.
BeOS: 3.62.
I somehow don't get to see any other releases. The server probably thinks I have one of the above systems (I have BeOS, but I still should be able to download Opera for any system I want to).
The BeOS version is unusable on the web today. It was only marginally useful when it was still new.
I don't know about the other two, but the story is probably somewhat similar.
Re:That is impressive (Score:2, Informative)
Re:email? (Score:5, Informative)
opera has a brilliant built in email client and rss reader.
they went for the approach of filter/search rather than sort long before gmail made it popular
I hit f4 to show my email & rss on the right of the screen. You can see an old version here:
http://www.freeemailtutorials.com/operaM2/operaMailInterface.cwd [freeemailtutorials.com]
rss is treated much like a seperate mail account
I love it.
Re:rendering Slashdot (Score:5, Informative)
And besides that Opera is also the most slashdot oriented browser. Just type /. to address bar and off you go to slashdot.
Re:That is impressive (Score:1, Informative)
I think what Opera needs more is Flashblock, because pages that suddenly make sounds or start downloading HD videos without asking are disgusting.
I used http://operawiki.info/FlashBlock in Opera 9, not sure if it works in 10, although I suspect it should.
Re:That is impressive (Score:2, Informative)
Oops - I mentioned Digg on Slashdot; there goes all my Karma.
Re:Do the issues printing still exist? (Score:3, Informative)