Please create an account to participate in the Slashdot moderation system

 



Forgot your password?
typodupeerror
×
Media The Internet

Warez Moving From BitTorrent to Conventional Hosting Services 366

ericatcw writes "Driven by increased crackdowns on BitTorrent sites such as The Pirate Bay, software pirates are fast moving their warez to file-hosting Web sites like RapidShare, reports Computerworld. According to anti-piracy vendor V.I. Labs, 100% of the warez in its survey were available on RapidShare, which, according to Alexa, is already one of the 20 largest sites in the world. V.I. Labs' CEO predicts file-hosting sites such as RapidShare will supplant BitTorrent, as the former appear better protected legally."
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.

Warez Moving From BitTorrent to Conventional Hosting Services

Comments Filter:
  • Ideas (Score:3, Interesting)

    by robvangelder ( 472838 ) on Saturday October 10, 2009 @11:43PM (#29708475)

    I wish that TV Shows were available on Rapidshare legit. The download speeds are great, and I would definitely pay $1 per episode.

  • by cdrguru ( 88047 ) on Sunday October 11, 2009 @12:58AM (#29708797) Homepage

    Everything adapts. Software will be something you rent on the Internet and never resides on your computer.

    Music? The situation in China has "evolved" to the point where there is no more recorded music sold (or produced). In the West check your local radio stations... what is selling there is oldies. What will continue to "sell" will be music from the previous century and the Internet will be dominated by garage bands offering stuff for free in hopes of landing a gig.

    Movies? Eliminate digital distribution (DVDs) and you eliminate the problem. If it is going to be on DVD, lots of people will just download it for free. You want a theatrical release? It is going to have to be in theaters only, for years. Maybe sell DVDs years later, maybe never because once released on DVD the revenue stream ends.

    User generated content? Check out YouTube for that, especially ShayTards and Magibon. This is the height of user-generated content and people are starting to discover (realize?) that it is crap. All crap, all the time. No, that isn't going to be the future of entertainment.

    What most people don't understand is we've grown an entire generation that believes it all should be free and will never, ever pay. This is going to require a major adaptation that most "media" and "entertainment" isn't going to survive, but the adaptation will eventually succeed.

    No, only in your fantasy will it really all be free. Someone has to pay, and patronage doesn't work. So we all have to pay for what we consume.

  • Re:captain obvious (Score:2, Interesting)

    by logjon ( 1411219 ) on Sunday October 11, 2009 @01:03AM (#29708821)
    Again, you're disregarding prepaid credit cards that leave no such trail. You are aware it's nearly 2010 correct?
  • Re:captain obvious (Score:4, Interesting)

    by IgnoramusMaximus ( 692000 ) on Sunday October 11, 2009 @01:26AM (#29708921)

    BT (and any other pure P2P system) is safer simply because there are additional hoops for the MPAAs of the world to jump through (like ISPs and privacy laws) to get your identity and even so such identity is unreliable (unless your lawyer is a dolt or you have been completely unprepared and are keeping all your downloaded stuff in the open, have no WiFi routers etc).

    This is of course not an impregnable defence but its orders of magnitude harder to crack then simply asking MegaUpload for all your downloads in your account, cross-correlated with your identity coming from your financial record (note that the prickly ISP problem has been circumnavigated neatly).

    P2P can be made far more secure, and it has been, like for example the Japanese Winny system (which was a cross between something like FreeNet and a typical P2P system like Gnutella) and its more modern successor the Perfect Dark. If coupled with steganographic storage, good user practices and other tricks, such systems can be made near-impractical to crack, to the point that mere knowledge of the IP address is (practically) useless from the perspective of copyright witch-hunters.

  • Everything adapts. Software will be something you rent on the Internet and never resides on your computer.

    In your dreams, and Microsoft's perhaps. On *my* computer? I think not.

    Music? The situation in China has "evolved" to the point where there is no more recorded music sold (or produced).

    Been to China lately? When I was there last April, I saw plenty of Chinese music [wikipedia.org] for sale.

    (And my gf, who is from Canton, has boatloads of the stuff.)

    In the West check your local radio stations... what is selling there is oldies. What will continue to "sell" will be music from the previous century and the Internet will be dominated by garage bands offering stuff for free in hopes of landing a gig.

    I'm sure these guys [www.sr.se] (whom we listen to in the office nearly every day) will be interested in learning that Miss Li [missli.se] sounds like she recorded her stuff in the 1920s because she actually did...?

    Movies? Eliminate digital distribution (DVDs) and you eliminate the problem.

    Wrong [wikipedia.org]

    and

    Wrong [wikipedia.org].

    User generated content? Check out YouTube for that, especially ShayTards and Magibon. This is the height of user-generated content and people are starting to discover (realize?) that it is crap. All crap, all the time. No, that isn't going to be the future of entertainment.

    (I am going to burn in Hell for this, but...)

    [citation needed]

    What most people don't understand is we've grown an entire generation that believes it all should be free and will never, ever pay. This is going to require a major adaptation that most "media" and "entertainment" isn't going to survive, but the adaptation will eventually succeed.

    No, only in your fantasy will it really all be free. Someone has to pay, and patronage doesn't work.

    No, what we've got is a generation that views the 'Every conceivable juxtaposition of eyes/ears with content entails a licence fee' model with derision. And rightly so.

    So we all have to pay for what we consume.

    Please tell that to the rich folk who got that way by finding some way not to pay for something (a lot of something). Which would be most of them.

    But wait -- that's what *they're* telling *you*, isn't it?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 11, 2009 @04:21AM (#29709523)

    Your last part is probably not going to happen. A new decentralized network takes physical outlay to do. I'm sure Joe Sixpack won't be stringing a gigabit Ethernet cable from house to house. Wireless? The FCC will just methodically hunt down and squash rogue connections just like pirate radio.

    The days of someone making a new app to win the cat and mouse game are slowly winding down. Virtually anything going from router to router gets logged, and any traffic that isn't obvious can just be dropped or throttled to nonexistance.

    This reminds me about the early part of the century, unless you used USENET or IRC (and were able to get invites as opposed to mode +b *@*.yoursitename.com), the only way to find anything was "warez search engines". All they did was demand you vote for them, shunt you to another search and all the while try every browser hole known to get malware onto your system. Then we had file sharing networks with decent clients (which soon turned into malware infected clients). Then when those turned to crap, a standardized protocol. Now, with all the P2P throttling, we are back to download sites and lame "warez search engines" again to find not just where the program is stored, but what the RAR password for the archive is.

    I hate to say it, but the big guys are winning this round, just like they took back satellite TV from the average joe with the universal card. Now HD programs from satellites and blu-ray players end up accessible to only a very few in a tight, closed circle. Similar with consoles, where PS2s still have yet to be cracked, after a number of years later.

    Regular CD protection is not being cracked as easily. Splinter Cell, even years later still requires someone to physically unplug their IDE CD/DVD drives in order to get a "crack" to work. Newer StarForce games still have yet to be cracked in any meaningful fashion.

    I'm sure in 3-5 years that piracy will get all but pushed to the fringes by a combination of techniques like RIAA style litigation, product activation, constant patching, CD/DVD ROM hardware with DRM hooks that work on concert with SecuROM's successor, and finally DLC, where the CD is just a stub, and the relevant content is downloaded. When technology fails, the laws will pick up. Right now, there is a lot of lobbying in US and other country governments for not just universalizing the DMCA, but the mysterious ACTA (where it will end up the law of the lands of many countries at once) which will not just require ISPs to act as policemen on their dime, but order peers to drop any packets that are not tracable to some group or person which can be held responsible for the contents.

  • Re:That's not new (Score:3, Interesting)

    by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) on Sunday October 11, 2009 @06:36AM (#29710007) Journal
    Definitely not news. Before peer-to-peer became a buzzword, a common way of distributing this kind of thing was to slit it into lots of rar files and upload each to a free hosting service. Things like i-drive and geocities, for example, would host things for free with something like a 10MB limit. A 100MB file would be split across ten of these sites and there'd be a web page somewhere with links to them all. The individual components had innocuous names, and the hosting companies couldn't tell that they were illegal because they couldn't decompress them without the other parts. Back then, hardly anyone had broadband, so you'd often download things by getting all of your friends to get one piece then passing a ZIP disk around to collect all of the pieces.
  • by misexistentialist ( 1537887 ) on Sunday October 11, 2009 @07:37AM (#29710219)
    As has been said many times here, copyright is really only ethical as a means of preventing others from profiting off creators' work. Corporate controlled copyright has perverted copyright by exploiting artists more often than not, while increasing scarcity and decreasing quality of material. People have always shared information, and while p2p reduces revenue, it's more a reduction from "obscenely fucking profitable" to just "fucking profitable".
  • by selven ( 1556643 ) on Sunday October 11, 2009 @08:11AM (#29710343)

    (Please mod this post down so that the RIAA/MPAA/CoS doesn't see it and get it taken down)
    (Time = 20091011.080216)
    (Filename = "Wolverine.mp4")
    (File begins(
    540 34550 5 312337302 446 0 07 37 6 25 5 12315471701 1 6203451745204063 0 50 467 0063053720 6034372 0062001
    57 512 1 3 0124670 163406371334440176 675 63 022342 5244 0005 2473 32203 5 702763372 20 666 532501316 12006263511025216331 2477 43 537600000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
    5 33 611 1365363 47 74 5257 0325226 03207 50613724027 66243342331063 5730 4 60 3 647 1 2714224 4142 701 3355 30472200 77 24 13464125 1 1 007 642 5 71 067 06 154551127450416 3 5 001
    5 2 642 3152646404 450621775 6575363 4235026736774 45 2 1621 7265706127606652 40 31107 34 465 3067 17437 1167370377 473 0 551734 773712310540340622513 3 3 3566013 64 33 637 624
    5 32537160 151 02224 3147 6 641 53 7 63 52 10074101 57 61 4 3242 2 2 604 3 75211 546047 1 407 3516277455140061106350 2326256 2 176063 135 07101661 0013 4 267423332 5402 61 5 44026424
    5 24 6662333065 41 40263 5005104 341 14 35021 33 7067327 07 1532 4 7 50347 6 54164 65431 124 26771 6557 1122 5 5 30503035 672 166734570 0330 542520 23504371461225141010 6677376
    6032 4 23733 15 6 40 1672030574 654 415027513731 4 5 036 5 7620 1340760 2 530767703 6167646537574 55 222043047244004361 72 67254751155723170634131 011 71 201220 66 75553131103515625
    60 36252155 72 23 1225 7 4120 024 4234 5 546 6712 1461300717 37360013552124635702323003704 7 62 40417 0104355 32 13 117447 15 54 03133 756400 4 1 1 3566070 22 17463 331155174 04261376
    6134 20 5300 7227107413 707 462734631 37106 6710572 56104712660112045 24526311 1 6235325242617 54474630 667 0341 5743366 5 13016556430050 37 0553700245 2 65430 07165132 777613114 724
    61 643 3207153 457032521 2 64 1 7 401 54412 716043567 43206756271313570746 32 7743 41277 354464 270 221 15646 4604 71277 65 623 037401020557011703 37 60462 70077 13331757170 2 53 3050624
    623 4 2261 1 70341 1 170144 073644 7 4211 237 16030 2 62 0374165 206444641521767 25 2011147215 743 54 0615107 131645154 104173 6705 1 5 3 52 734 333 732573 07 1 73 0004001
    62 0 5467 430 0 1 31 07270535032 2 21361 67 2340431 4 1736 077207 104 5107345 1213 54 17 324 45 23567 756562 60 04425 6165 53 3 72 024 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
    6343 5 5462606 430427531 56415 451250 6 603610155174 63501625 70525 3361551171757307033 14265071 340051 60105 6016 21 3 6 0 734 26431501757 13126734 25320676 1617 3357615115470 226201001
    63 720035465363231043 0 04221 5220 025673 677474345650 1435671 7010245 0661176476 3503 5 3501512 552 74716713251637227 35132 402 220 5 67426552 14 6621 161112 5 4 73354 3 3632 52 114624
    6450 0622415 60176374440 71730 7423 210151504532701637 7053151740321 1 0610 4675406502302553 16 476712732 13 72775151246433161 31321 54356777 466557 042 4 315 640065242002 726 6564 24
    6505203 564025 10206 404 57700504226 427 3474203533 465144127624172334 27006605066423 517 35373547 7200661245660 50405 322773 367 324 17753 06 7 1314 11124 5717316 7 7715 1 54 627 702 376
    655 7374 432251 06 1757 412 144 205 53721 5373 13 346 7 544162037 56 653 307310 0 42 50 7 4017 0627300 3 60 50 2114203350 52 7 3165203 45064511761 64345373 513 2650 767770767211 140625
    6614 37 3127715 22231151760543370 53521 6174 03700435 0740065 50 3 54 03 3 3660363524 0505 16207 21326254512 10005347036101 315352774702775 750247464603 77 20377 205 45 47 543 4 1 376
    66705676305104 54115321 167446230736 6 476 36304 3627 03742554 77540701716 2766416013 64 0 0 2 063 63 03 7266031707 24116 447 1343 113 203 7 41 07 63 75 5 70007 344463524 644324
    67265 500323341250 6 20410400 2503000436616 050320 57 1075 340 44 45045443537713 11646706137042 1335144730647 571 77612 74 1557024 72 2 70 02 75 4 3013437 52273 35 1756564405 3 4624
    67 30 1430034476 3774070 51663 13 2461 3066132772 4 73 673000754 131 6741 3 205 1 537343021356435327267057313 71236213627312 532 5305072337

  • by mrbcs ( 737902 ) on Sunday October 11, 2009 @07:04PM (#29714029)

    Unfortunately, you're screwed. Why do you think other nations are 'harmonizing' their copyright laws with the US?

    Good luck with that. Every time our Canadian government tries that shit, we either kick their asses out or we storm their headquarters and threaten to kick their asses out.
    They've tried the Canadian DMCA 3 times now only to be defeated every time. Canadians will not put up with that crap. Once you tell Grandma that she can't copy a song to her ipod, there's no hope for the gov't.
    This faulty American DMCA legislation is probably the reason we now have minority governments. That's not a bad thing. They have to work together or get booted out.
    America is on life support anyway. Not as important as she thinks, and soon to die from her own overindulgence and greed.

    Bring on the trolls mutherfucker. Mod me into oblivion... I could care less.

Two can Live as Cheaply as One for Half as Long. -- Howard Kandel

Working...