German Book Publishers Cool To E-Book Market 158
Now that the Kindle is being actively marketed in many countries outside the US, reader
rsmiller510 sends in his piece up on DaniWeb about the skepticism in Germany about the whole e-book phenomenon. A major difference from the US book market is that in Germany, book prices are regulated in an effort to protect authors, publishers, and small booksellers. As a result, publishers don't issue electronic versions of their books until the paperback edition comes out, up to 2 years after the hardcover — and then they sell the e-book for the same price as the lowest-cost paperback. An article on e-books in Spiegel.de notes a survey taken recently for the Frankfurt Book Fair, which found that "only one in 12 Germans has a clear idea about what an e-book is, and seven out of 10 of them would prefer a printed version over a digital one." 65,000 e-books were sold in Germany in the first 6 months of 2009, vs. almost ten times that number bought per week in the US, in what is still a small niche of the overall book business.
are the US figures really that high? (Score:3, Insightful)
Ten times 65,000 e-books sold per week in the U.S. equates to about 34 million per year. Sales are really that high? Is this including magazines and newspaper, or just actual books?
So the lesson is... (Score:3, Insightful)
Other Issues (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, not the author in person, but his book, The Street Lawyer. Paperback version.
I would have been rather more reluctant to do the same with a Kindle (or equivalent) edition, as I am pretty sure a dip in the water would render it beyond repair.
I cannot be the only one who occasionally loses a paperback to whatever unfortunate events that pass me by. (Temporary insanity and such.) I have provided Dublin Airport with one (I got my camera back, which had been impounded by security guards), an assortment of hotels, planes and trains have got their share and for some odd reason I have never found my lost PDA. (The interesting stuff was encrypted, thank you very much.)
The thing for me (and quite a few other people, I am sure) is that the loss of a paperback may be unfortunate but not a major setback, whereas the loss of an eBook reader is more than just annoying.
Is America really all that different? (Score:5, Insightful)
... only one in 12 Germans has a clear idea about what an e-book is, and seven out of 10 of them would prefer a printed version over a digital one.
Maybe a higher percentage of Americans than Germans know what an ebook is - maybe not. But my gut tells me that we probably match up similarly in terms of preferring a printed book over a digital book, since I hear that all the time (even from a fair number of techies).
I have no doubt the tech will continue to evolve until someone gets it right, and finally makes digital more convenient than paper. It's not there yet, except for the small number of people that use multiple books at the same time (e.g. students) - and even in those cases, DRM, non-availability of many titles, and other issues deleteriously affect their ebook experience.
Re:So the lesson is... (Score:3, Insightful)
> If you artificially prop up prices for the benefit of a few, then competition and innovation
> that would benefit the broader consumer market can suffer.
No, the lessons are bigger than that.
If you regulate prices you set the system at that moment into stone, the current winners and losers get fixed into law. Innovation becomes virtually illegal. It isn't just consumers who lose, everyone except the government blessed winners lose. And of course the government itself which gains power and can be assured the support of those who depend upon it for monopoly rents.
In short, government price fixing, regulation and government in general are BAD. Some government is a necessary evil at this point in our philosophical development but we must realize that it is always evil and thus to me kept carefully chained lest it destroy us. Worse than fire or even fissile material.
Re:Other Issues (Score:3, Insightful)
Try comparing the packing of a Kindle versus 3-4 paperbacks on a long journey. Some of us have to fly around quite a bit for our work.
If you are into serial novels, it is great that when I'm done reading book 3 I can immediately purchase and start reading book 4. I might not want to buy all the books ahead, because sometimes the series just isn't worth reading all the way through. And more often than not the bookstores quit stocking my series before I'm finished reading it.
I think the advantages of ebooks outweighs the disadvantages. There are disadvantages, and you pointed out one. Of course destroying a $300 reader in the bath tub is terrible. But on the other hand if your house floods and destroys 100 of your favorite books that is perhaps worse because it took you not just money but time to build up a collection. With ebooks, you can smash your reader and still have the ebooks available.
I think the last obstacle to ebooks being a real alternative to print books is when they let go of the DRM nonsense and start using a format that works on more than one or two devices.
No thanks (Score:3, Insightful)
I just don't see e-books catching on. Even if the technology matures to make them just as legible as a printed book, that isn't the thing that will make them popular. It's a convenience thing. For example, my wife just bought a few books the other day. Yesterday, she loaned one to her mom, who read it and returned it. And today, she loaned it to her sister, who took it back home with her, which is several hundred miles away. Now, while this process COULD be easier with an e-book, since you could easily transfer the file over the Internet, the publishers will never allow this. Not only that, but good luck selling e-books you've already read to someone else.
Finally, there's the issue of longevity. Books can last for hundreds of years if they're printed on acid-free paper and properly cared for. With an e-book, while the file could be preserved, you run into the issue of making sure a reader manufactured, say, 200 years from now can still open it. I'm sure you could write data conversion software to keep the files current, but I think the publishers would resist, since they'd want you to buy new versions of the same work. And, unless you have multiple backups, one catastrophic media failure could wipe out your entire library.
Funeral eulogy for the german book marker (Score:5, Insightful)
Hi,
since i am german and an ebook user for several years (iRexx Iliad), i would like to comment on that:
Like the music industry the publishers are currently comitting sucide due to the fear of death. By trying to preserve the status quo, they are scaring away a big part of their future customers. Ebooks are only a symptom here.
I have purchased and read about 1.000+ books during the last 25 years. Due to a still progressing carreer, my budget is rising. But i am less and less inclined to spend it on the local market.
Sincerely yours, Martin
Re:So the lesson is... (Score:3, Insightful)
There is an argument that the continued existence of a healthy ecosystem
What's "healthy" about a large number of small book stores with limited selection? And why do you need bookstores and publishers at all if there are electronic reading devices?
In this particular case I do not know the details of how well that ecosystem has been protected and how much of a benefit it is
I haven't been able to find any numbers on it either, and the people arguing for price controls don't cite any figures either. If they did, it would probably show that they aren't working.
Re:Audiobooks seems to be the trend (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:I don't think it's that much different, here (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:are the US figures really that high? (Score:4, Insightful)
Thanks... I completely missed the 6 month vs. 1 week distinction.
Hey ... close enough for government work.
Re:I don't think it's that much different, here (Score:5, Insightful)
The funny thing is publishers complained for years about the physical cost of books, and used it as a base for low writer royalties.
Hollywood accounting. If you believe the studio execs, no movie actually makes any money.
Re:No thanks (Score:3, Insightful)
I agree that all of these are valid issues, and I do think the 15 year estimate someone above posited is optimistic, however none of these are insurmountable. I think we probably will see wide-spread acceptance of ebooks/readers but it's gonna take a generation or two of people for whom online services like facebook, etc. have been with them practically since birth.
My daughter can't believe my parents bought me an encyclopedia set when I was in high school... in her world, if it's not online, then it's gotta be somewhere "special" -- to her encyclopedias belong in a library.
As technology gets better and more pervasive, as publishers realize they can cut costs, perhaps after existing contracts for suppliers, etc. are up for renewal, they will migrate, though I doubt the printed word will disappear completely.
As to the issues with sharing a book, if an ebook cost me $1, I can easily see me buying it multiple times throughout my life if it's one I like or use a lot. And since I'm assuming that most of these services have a site where I can track and re-download stuff I've purchased, it's not that hard of a step to allow me to temporarily assign my rights to a given product to another user... after all, it's just data.
As to data recovery, I will admit we haven't done to well with that, what with tapes and floppies that can't even be read anymore, but we (the geeks) also know this is a concern... it CAN be dealt with, if planned for. I mean, how many DVD drives can't read CD-Roms? (I know, very similar tech in terms of physical characteristics, etc, but the point is newer methods don't HAVE to break older technologies unless it truly is a fundamental change in mechanism/methodology.
We'll get there, but when the next couple of generations expect it and think we're crazy for "reading asynchronous BBS postings at 300 baud" (Daddy, what's a "baud"?), not when you and I think it's ready.
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Re:That's a scary thought (Score:3, Insightful)
Or do you think books would last longer?
Actually, yes. Well-preserved printed books can and do last for centuries. We have no idea if any of our current storage techniques will last anywhere near that long, manufacturers bombastic claims of extended lifetimes notwithstanding. What electronic storage (optical, magnetic, quantum, whatever) does do is allow for data to be more conveniently transferred to new media when the older stuff begins to wear out. But that requires a lot of maintenance and awareness ... Google seems to be doing well at it, so far, but then again Google is a private corporation that may or may not be here in ten years, or twenty or a hundred. NASA, for example, is losing tons of data from the early years of the space program because they can't find enough old equipment to restore the information. They waited too long, and such data loss scenarios play out pretty regularly.
... or they may not. Flash memories self-discharge over time: plenty long enough for typical use but not for archival storage. Optical systems are probably the best bet to date, but they are also subject to degradation, and it doesn't take much to make a disc unreadable.
... I don't know. The trend towards purely electronic storage is well under way, and libraries full of printed books will soon be considered obsolete. The day may come when we start dismantling them. Would that be wise?
A typical hard drive, such as that used by every server farm in existence, will become unreadable long before a paper book will. Solid-state memories may have greater lifetime
What it comes down to is that if we want to make sure critical information is kept around in case civilization crashes, we'd better keep the important stuff on paper. I always thought, heck, even if an apocalyptic Mad Max event occurs, there will plenty of knowledge stored in the world's libraries to help us rebuild. Knowledge that will help us skip the thousands of years it took our ancestors to go from playing with bits of stone to flying spacecraft. Nowadays
Put it like this: if things go all to Hell (and technic civilization is more fragile than you think, just ask Charlton Heston) we'll be unable to retrieve squat from Google's servers. We will, however, be able to read books. If we fall so far that we can't even do that, well, I don't suppose it would matter very much.
Re:So the lesson is... (Score:3, Insightful)
There is an argument that the continued existence of a healthy ecosystem
What's "healthy" about a large number of small book stores with limited selection?
Taken together, all the small (and of course, not all independent bookstores are small...) bookstores likely end up having a larger selection than the apparently-large-but-actually-kind-of-monotonous-and-generic selection of big chain bookstores. Moreover, because there's a lot more individual taste used in choosing books, there's better support for non-mainstream material; I imagine that's what the GP was referring to.
And why do you need bookstores and publishers at all if there are electronic reading devices?
I guess you're just trolling a bit, but like many people, I like bookstores, and am willing to pay more when buying a book in a nice environment. Amazon's nice too, in its own way, but ... not the same.
Remember back when there was a kind of meme that said "in the future, we won't need to prepare food, we'll just eat food pills!"?
Re:Another e-book story... (Score:3, Insightful)
An e-book doesn't look the same, doesn't smell the same and doesn't feel the same as a paper book.
It's the same reason why those that can afford it have fireplaces at home: a good wood fire in a fireplace is a pleasure to one's senses.
E-books are likely to sooner or latter dominate the utility space of literature (reference manuals, newspapers, magazines) provided they're cheaper than what they replace (which isn't happening at the moment). This is the same space where the Internet has already significantly displaced paper-books (hands up anybody that still uses paper encyclopedias...) so we might bypass the e-book stage altogether.
What is more doubtful is if they will ever replace paper books in the pleasure space of literature (those books you read for the pleasure of it while lying in our sofa with a nice cappuccino, put down in your bookshelf when you're done and pull out a year or two later to read again) much less the home decoration space of literature (hardcover books with fancy covers for looking pretty in a bookshelf).