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Disney Close To Unveiling New "DVD Killer" 498

Uncle Rummy writes "The Wall Street Journal reports that Disney is close to releasing a new system that will sell permanent, multi-device access to digital media. The system, dubbed Keychest, is being positioned as an answer to consumer concerns about purchasing digital media that are locked to a small number of devices, and thus as a way to finally shift media sales from an ownership model to an access model. They claim that such a service would reduce the risk of losing access to content as a result of a single vendor going out of business, as purchased content would remain available from other vendors. However, they do not seem to have addressed the question of what happens to customers' access to purchased content if the Keychest service itself is discontinued."
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Disney Close To Unveiling New "DVD Killer"

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  • by neurogeneticist ( 1631367 ) on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @03:47PM (#29827603)
    So basically this is not permanent at all, just subject to the whims of yet another overlord.
  • Watermark (Score:5, Informative)

    by iamacat ( 583406 ) on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @03:51PM (#29827685)

    Watermarked content can be played on unlimited number of devices, but can not be posted to thepiratebay. Pirates can attempt conversion, but by the time you are sure you stripped all possible watermarking techniques, the video is so blurry people will buy a legit version anyway. This currently works for Apple/Amazon audio with zero issues. It's too sad that Disney wants both legal and technical special treatment to keep protecting Mickey Mouse.

  • by elrous0 ( 869638 ) * on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @04:08PM (#29827907)
    Nonsense! Just look what a roaring success [wikipedia.org] Circuit City had with this "They don't really want to own it" model.
  • Some consumers do... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Roger W Moore ( 538166 ) on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @04:10PM (#29827925) Journal

    Because I'm pretty sure "consumers" don't do any of that with DVDs.

    Some consumers do. For example I have to remember that when I buy a DVD in the UK I cannot play it in my Canadian DVD player wen I get home....at least not without ripping it and rewriting it first.

  • by Animats ( 122034 ) on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @04:11PM (#29827949) Homepage

    If you bought into any of these, you're a sucker. They don't work any more.

    • Divx (1998-2001). [cnet.com] "Disposable" DVDs tied to a remote authorization system. Promoted by Circuit City and Thompson. Content now unplayable.
    • WalMart Music (2007-2008) [itwire.com] Downloadable music tied to an authorization server. Content now unplayable.
    • PlaysForSure (2004-2008) [wired.com] Microsoft system. Downloadable music tied to an authorization server. Content from AOL MusicNow (closed), Musicmatch Jukebox (closed), Yahoo! Music Unlimited (closed), Spiralfrog (closed), MTV URGE (closed), MSN Music (closed), Musicmatch Jukebox (closed), Ruckus Network (closed) now generally unplayable, although exit strategies exist. Authorization servers were to be shut down August 31, 2008, but were kept up after that date.

    Next, Disney.

  • by symbolset ( 646467 ) on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @04:13PM (#29827983) Journal

    They did not think of that because they have no intention of letting any currently held copyright expire, ever. They will just continue to extend the term to "Another 50 years" every 50 years.

  • by Roger W Moore ( 538166 ) on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @04:19PM (#29828071) Journal
    Yes - it even says so in the article:

    And Keychest would allow movie studios to dictate how many devices, connected to which distribution networks, a given title can be played on.

    So it is permanent for as long as they say it is permanent.

  • by vishbar ( 862440 ) on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @04:26PM (#29828183)

    You can try. But remember that Disney is very, very, very big. The silly parks and cheesy cartoons make up a tiny fraction of their overall empire.

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Disney [wikipedia.org] as a reference. Big.

  • Free The DVD (Score:3, Informative)

    by JackSpratts ( 660957 ) on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @05:41PM (#29829165) Homepage

    the simplest solution to this self identified dvd portability "problem" is to stop preventing consumers from ripping their purchased films to hard drives. once that occurs they can stream movies either in house or globally via the net, to all or any device they prefer. take my run of the mill my $65 1TB hard drive. it holds nearly 250 single-layer films as uncompressed isos. that's over 300% more movies than the average american household owns now. next year that 65 bucks will buy me two gigs and storage for almost 500 films, or nearly 3000 with the proper compression. i live in conn but sometimes watch my movies in mass either by net or by drive. it's simple and free of technical issues. in other words it works.

    this disney maneuver can't be as much about solving practical problems consumers have with player compatibility (legal ripping software will take care of that) as it is about solving perceptual issues consumers have towards content cartels and their draconian efforts at digitally restricting media.

    free the dvd/blu-ray. they may sell more too. or not, but the problem vanishes.

    - js.

  • by dogmatixpsych ( 786818 ) on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @06:06PM (#29829451) Journal
    Bolt was good. Don't forget that Disney also owns Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, and Miramax Films. They also own ABC (and so Disney is "responsible" for Lost and other good shows). The Narnia films were great. The first Pirates movie was good. Disney is making a lot of good movies (they also put out a lot of not good movies).
  • by LordVader717 ( 888547 ) on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @06:37PM (#29829743)

    When was the last time you saw a good Disney movie (Pixar doesn't count)?

    I'm guessing what you actually mean is what was the last good Disney traditional animation film, in which case you'd have to go back to the first half of the decade, before Eisner dissolved their cel-animation studios.
    Now that they've restarted their efforts things seem promising, and the upcoming animations "the princess and the frog" and "rapunzel" are highly anticipated, with names like Ron Clements, John Musker or Alan Menken who were crucial to some of their successes in the 90s.

  • by LordVader717 ( 888547 ) on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @07:24PM (#29830107)

    It's actually Hannah Montana and the movie sequels which are most widely available and affordable. They're crap anfd they know it, which is why in stores you'll see every animated sequel and direct-to-video movie they released in the last ten years, but at most two movies from their "classic" collection, costing at least $20.

  • by dakameleon ( 1126377 ) on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @07:44PM (#29830275)

    Region coding [wikipedia.org]. The PAL vs. NTSC is determined by the player, which will output for the local standard - it's not coded in the DVD.

  • by mouseblue ( 1602125 ) on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @09:03PM (#29830871)

    ...a company that was renowned for giving us stuff to watch is now going to start telling us how we can watch it?

    In all fairness, their new Blu Ray releases include the DVD disc also. And some "digital copy" (whatever that is, Ipod format maybe?). I guess the goal is to allow a 5-year-old to open the package and play the movie no matter what digital player they own/choose.

    Want Blu Ray & amazing 1080p clarity? Check.

    Only have a DVD player? You're covered.

    Want to see a low-res version on your Ipod? No problem, here's the best encode we've made for it.

    Ideally, it would simplify things for kids and grandparents. Not everyone understands the differences or how to convert digital formats.

    But I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here. The new blu ray+dvd combo packs are around $20-$25 and is cheaper than the original $40 dvd releases they had 10 years ago. Not to mention early dvds (not just Disney) sometimes had poor transfers, compression artifacts, rainbows/hue problems/shimmers, etc.

    We live in an interesting time where having a VHS player, a DVD player, & a Blu Ray player isn't too far-fetched.
    Anime/rare movie fans might own laser disc players also. >_>

  • by synaptik ( 125 ) on Wednesday October 21, 2009 @09:46PM (#29831109) Homepage
    Actually, if he makes the right int 10h calls to the video BIOS[*], he can get 80x43, 80x50, or 80x60!! (assuming he has an EGA-or-better graphics adapter.) [*] No text-mode console jockey worth their salt would be caught dead using the "MODE CON LINES=50" cheat in their autoexec.bat file.
  • by oreaq ( 817314 ) on Thursday October 22, 2009 @02:46PM (#29838531)
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